Ant-Man and The Wasp Ant-Man and the Wasp News and Speculation Thread

[Muze]

Why? Radioactive Man isn't even a traditional Pym villain.
I vote Black Knight. A mad scientist dressed like medieval knight and shooting missiles and lasers, that is something new.

According to commentary track, Reed and co tried to make Scott Lang a genius savant (he probably read Future Foundation Vol 2), but end up deleting the scenes since it decreases his everyman quality. All the scences were deleted for very good reasons instead of just trying to shorten run time a.k.a. Age of Ultron. For example, Scott and Pym's first meeting (where Pym's military photo is shown) is deleted because it adds too much confusion on Pym's personality and history, and the edited version makes sure that Pym appears as a heroic deuteragonist viewers can root for instead of mysterious and confusing old man.

he seemed pretty smart when he broke into Pym's home. his smarts were also showcased in the preview comic; where they show what landed him in prison.

anyways...

my personal choice is still a revitalized Advanced Idea Mechanics; co-opted by mad scientists (ex. Monica Rappaccini, Elias Starr, etc) whose plans are more nihilistic than profit-motivated (like Killian). they could even idolize Pym. I feel that A.I.M would play to Ant-Man and the Wasp's strengths by giving them an army of faceless characters to fight; led by people that can match them intellectually. you could even have them shrink down to fight some kind of A.I.M nanovirus. or, wait for it, an enlarged microbe; to stand in for the Creature from Kosmos. someone like Crossfire could also align with A.I.M to avenge his cousin Darren.

as for someone like Whirlwind, he could easily be one of those one-off villains that shows up in the beginning of the film (to be trounced and arrested); to demonstrate that Scott and Hope are actively superheroing now. my idea would be to offhandedly mention that he's one of the inhumans or got his power from eating fish tacos.

 

[Muze]

Yeah you're definitely right about that but as for who should be the villain for the Ant Man sequel? I vote for Whirlwind

Whirlwind can't carry a movie. he's a goon. he could work as a secondary or tertiary villain. but I don't think you can sell it with just him. that's too small-time; even for two shrinking characters.

still, my casting choice for Whirlwind is Matt Schulze.

 

[chamber-music]

Whirlwind might make a fun prologue villain like Batroc in CATWS and Strucker in AAOU.

I hope Marvel one day release Ant-Man's Panama prologue.

 

[Endeavor]

my personal choice is still a revitalized Advanced Idea Mechanics; co-opted by mad scientists (ex. Monica Rappaccini, Elias Starr, etc) whose plans are more nihilistic than profit-motivated (like Killian). they could even idolize Pym. I feel that A.I.M would play to Ant-Man and the Wasp's strengths by giving them an army of faceless characters to fight; led by people that can match them intellectually. you could even have them shrink down to fight some kind of A.I.M nanovirus. or, wait for it, an enlarged microbe; to stand in for the Creature from Kosmos. someone like Crossfire could also align with A.I.M to avenge his cousin Darren.

The Technovore would fit in nicely with what you're describing.

 

[obsidianrpg]

he seemed pretty smart when he broke into Pym's home. his smarts were also showcased in the preview comic; where they show what landed him in prison.

anyways...

my personal choice is still a revitalized Advanced Idea Mechanics; co-opted by mad scientists (ex. Monica Rappaccini, Elias Starr, etc) whose plans are more nihilistic than profit-motivated (like Killian). they could even idolize Pym. I feel that A.I.M would play to Ant-Man and the Wasp's strengths by giving them an army of faceless characters to fight; led by people that can match them intellectually. you could even have them shrink down to fight some kind of A.I.M nanovirus. or, wait for it, an enlarged microbe; to stand in for the Creature from Kosmos. someone like Crossfire could also align with A.I.M to avenge his cousin Darren.

as for someone like Whirlwind, he could easily be one of those one-off villains that shows up in the beginning of the film (to be trounced and arrested); to demonstrate that Scott and Hope are actively superheroing now. my idea would be to offhandedly mention that he's one of the inhumans or got his power from eating fish tacos.

If the second movie is really an expedition movie as hinted, Team Pym needs a rival organization to race against and A.I.M. would be fantastic. Also M.O.D.O.K..

 

[Muze]

If the second movie is really an expedition movie as hinted, Team Pym needs a rival organization to race against and A.I.M. would be fantastic. Also M.O.D.O.K..

exactly. I could see them wanting to exploit the "microverse" for evil.

 

[chaseter]

If Iron Man 3 had used nanobots instead of that ridiculous serum then AIM could have definitely returned in this next movie and lead to Technovore.

 

[Endeavor]

If Iron Man 3 had used nanobots instead of that ridiculous serum then AIM could have definitely returned in this next movie and lead to Technovore.

That's not out of the question.
AIM was working on more than just one thing, as evidenced by the tech Killian used in his first meeting with Pepper.

 

[dyl1dyl]

One thing that I'm really interested about this film now is how it weaves into the infinity war part 1 and 2 arc because of this film's release date. It comes right after infinity war part 1 and thor ragnarok which leads me to believe that this film is probably going to see some other avengers appear in some way and it's going to have a story that is key to setting up infinity war part 2. I mean, it can't just be a standalone story with that release date. That would be way too anti climatic coming just a couple of months after infinity war 1

 

[chaseter]

That's not out of the question.
AIM was working on more than just one thing, as evidenced by the tech Killian used in his first meeting with Pepper.

So was Hydra. You can make anything up with writing but it will have no real connection.

 

[Inhuman117]

After What i Saw how Ant Man Evolve in CW i really Looking Forward what comes next , i mean a cool thing for Wasp would be if she could Control Real Wasps in the movie
imagine a Ants and Wasps Team Up against a Yellowjacket Suit Based Army

 

[BigSams50]

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I wonder how they will handle it now that he is basically an enemy to the entire world lmao

 

[dyl1dyl]

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I wonder how they will handle it now that he is basically an enemy to the entire world lmao

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I'm really hoping that we see some of the other avengers (falcon, cap, hawkeye and scarlet witch) in this film now. Scott helped them in their time of need, now they should help him in this film. Just for a short scene, like falcon in the first ant man film

 

[BigSams50]

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I'm really hoping that we see some of the other avengers (falcon, cap, hawkeye and scarlet witch) in this film now. Scott helped them in their time of need, now they should help him in this film. Just for a short scene, like falcon in the first ant man film

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Oh yes i agree. Bringing Falcon back in this one would be the best choice too imo. Would help them build a friendship in between all of htese films. We could see them go from "enemies" to great friends. Thats the type of character growth i want to see in these films

 

[CLARKY]

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Oh yes i agree. Bringing Falcon back in this one would be the best choice too imo. Would help them build a friendship in between all of htese films. We could see them go from "enemies" to great friends. Thats the type of character growth i want to see in these films

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Technically the "growth" of the character has already been developped in the airport scene of Civil War to gigantic proportions ! t:

 

[Muze]

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I wonder how they will handle it now that he is basically an enemy to the entire world lmao

doesn't matter since he's not a high profile guy. he already consorts with criminals in the first movie.

 

[Tg11]

But either way I can't wait to see who the villain is for the sequel or if any of the other Avengers will show up in Scott's sequel

 

[Flint Marko]

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I wonder how they will handle it now that he is basically an enemy to the entire world lmao

This was my question as well. I was really thrown for a loop with that ending, my first thought was "how is this going to change Ant-man & the Wasp?"

 

[Tg11]

Yes I too wonder what the implications of Civil War will mean for Ant Man's sequel? I mean considering Scott by all intensive purposes he is now a fugitive from the law in terms of siding with Team Cap he is against government control so what does that mean not only for him but for Wasp too?

 

[Havok83]

doesn't matter since he's not a high profile guy. he already consorts with criminals in the first movie.

It does matter bc he cant really be out in the open. The end of CW had large implications for his film and it will be interesting to see how its handled. He wasnt high profile before we met him but he's high profile now. He should be on people's radar

 

[Webfoot Hero]

This was my question as well. I was really thrown for a loop with that ending, my first thought was "how is this going to change Ant-man & the Wasp?"

I had the same thoughts since his actions and status at the end of CW are going to have to be addressed. It's not something that can just be glossed over like nothing happened.

 

[FVD]

Having Ant-Man and Wasp dealing with A.I.M. would be a fantastic idea, and yes, I think the MCU is waiting for M.O.D.O.K. to make some entrance too. Also makes me wonder if they oughta integrate Aldrich Killian's memories into M.O.D.O.K., much like what we saw a preservation of Arnim Zola in The Winter Soldier.

Also hoping the speculation of Sharon Stone playing Janet comes true too.

 

[BigSams50]

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Technically the "growth" of the character has already been developped in the airport scene of Civil War to gigantic proportions ! t:

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hahahahaha i meant the growth between Falcon and Scott.

 

[MadVillainy]

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I wonder how they will handle it now that he is basically an enemy to the entire world lmao

This was my question as well. I was really thrown for a loop with that ending, my first thought was "how is this going to change Ant-man & the Wasp?"

[BLACKOUT]Ant Man and the Wasp comes out after Infinity War right?
Maybe Infinity War exonerates him or clears his name.[/BLACKOUT]

The ending did kinda surprise me

 

[Tg11]

Sharon Stone as Janet could you imagine? Considering Michael Douglas is playing Hank