Approval Rule Discussion

Alright, since Drak's got a lot on his plate right now I'll say something and then *hopefully* MB will chime in later. ^_^

As Drak's already listed he has a ton of things to do on his plate, as far as MB and I are concerned neither of us had any idea as to our 'position' in this till we each got a PM asking for our approval for an RPG. That's when we realized there needed to be some sort of organized chaos.

Hence the 'approval' plan, it's still in planning stages however this last week it's fleshed itself out very quickly and easily.

It's fairly simple, the RPG community is it's own almost self-governing community within Hype. We've had flame wars within our threads and yet we've always been left to ourselves to figure it out, without Mod's or Admin's reacting as they normally would.

Given this the general idea is simple. Taking the 'acceptance' plan each RPG has for player approval we expanded upon it.

Each person interested in creating an RPG will fill out an 'RPG application' which will then be submitted to the 'board' for 'review' and approval.

The 'Board' or 'Panel', as we call it, will be a quarterly rotation of 7 GM's, AGM's and regular players already within the RPG community.
Since organizing 7 people is hard only 5 need to cast a 'vote', majority wins as too if the RPG is a go or no-go.

While this sounds harsh and a bit confining, it cuts down Drakon's job considerably and helps MB and I as well as the rest of the RPGer's involved in the decision.

The application proves to us that the RPG is well thought out and allows for longevity in some way.
We, or rather I understand where you're coming from..but since we have no mod powers and Drakon has a larger job than just being a mod, it's easier if we sort out any issues before the RPG's start since we can't clear deadwood from the forums ourselves.

While this is the general basis we've been working off of for the last few weeks we are in no ways closed to suggestions and compromises. Even now the general idea is being changed.
Perhaps a forum where the person presenting the idea can post a thread with the RPG premise laid out to see how much interest is showed in it? Many Forum RPG's do this and it's a popular idea that would work great. :)

As for 'shooting down' ideas. I doubt it will happen.

The approval process is more for us to see that the person presenting the idea has thought it through and is committed to following the guidelines of Hype for an RPG. :) (i.e. no Porn STar RPG's..which actually would be sort of fun.... o.o :oldrazz: )
 
I'd much rather let the game's popularity among players decide if it should live or die, rather than entrusting that entirely to any one (or two as the case may be) person(s).

EDIT: This is for UK as well.
 
They shouldn't have to decide that. This forum should work just like the others. If it fails, it fails...no big deal. It just remains inactive. If it's a hit...then it's a hit...

EDIT: This was towards UK.

Come on CNO, you know that this really isn't harming anyone. This is just a simple measure to ensure the boards arn't clogged up with RPGs that just fall down the page agan and again. This isn't hurting anyone, this should't be a problem.
 
Shouldn't everyone have a say in what RPG gets made instead of a select few? Why not have a thread that lets everyone see the application for this RPG and take a poll on it. That is if an approval process is really even needed, which I don't think is necessary.
 
The purpose of the creating a games section was not to create endless threads that flatter within weeks but to but a stop to the clutter in the comic boards. It's necessary.
 
Come on CNO, you know that this really isn't harming anyone. This is just a simple measure to ensure the boards arn't clogged up with RPGs that just fall down the page agan and again. This isn't hurting anyone, this should't be a problem.

Actually it is harming people. For instance, now we aren't allowed to make new games. I think that is pretty harmful. Another instance, the Zombie RPG was approved by no one and seems to be a success (which also proves the point of letting the players choose what games they want). As soon as the thread is exposed as not being approved, we have players come in and complain about it.
 
No its not. Come on, you know Twy and MB, if an RPG is well thought out, well explained and the potential is clear, they'll let it in. But meanwhile, RPGs like Star Wars KOTOR3 just didn't need to be here in the first place, and you can trust that they'd object to something like this.

hey know what they're doing and they're acting in the best interests of other people.
 
Alright, calm down.

CNO, we already suggested that and that does seem to be the new popular alternative, and in our research online that seems to be the way most forum RPG's do it. So we'll probably go that way with the 'approval'.

Maybe not with a poll, because even if we listed a general way of making a proposed RPG thread msot won't read it or would forget to put the poll in and Drak would have to put polls in a lot. :)

So perhaps just a survey of general interest in the RPG would work.

One of the stipilations is that the RPG should have 5 active players, ALL the forums with RPG's have this idea and it's pretty good.
 
Actually it is harming people. For instance, now we aren't allowed to make new games. I think that is pretty harmful. Another instance, the Zombie RPG was approved by no one and seems to be a success (which also proves the point of letting the players choose what games they want). As soon as the thread is exposed as not being approved, we have players come in and complain about it.


The zombie RPG was misleading, sayin it had been approved, so is an acception to the rule. You're not allowed to make news games because the simple rules couldn't be followed in the first place.
 
I am calm. Why is it that every time people have opposing opinions and are just stating them, not name slinging or harassing each other, someone always says "calm down"? :confused: :D
 
Voila! Faster than I could type Drak ^_^
 
As I said in the annoucement, I'm not going to cancel the ones already started.

And, Star Wars/KoToR3 has just as much right here as Zombies. It just didn't work for whatever reason.
 
I am calm. Why is it that every time people have opposing opinions and are just stating them, not name slinging or harassing each other, someone always says "calm down"? :confused: :D

CALM DOWN, DAMMIT! :cmad:

*shakes Charlie*

You've got to breathe! BREEEEEAAATHHHEEE!!!
 
If that means everyone gets to approve the game, not just a certain bunch, and it does not have to go through any other filters before even getting into that forum, then yes, I think that would work.

By 'filter's' what exactly do you mean? It's not like we're censoring it.:huh:
No offense but I really don't get it. :huh:

The only thing we might do is keep the 'application' idea because it allows for a ton of information to be easily processed by readers in an orderly fashion.
 
That Approval Forum is a good idea. Let democracy work.


I suggest someone post that RPG application template (coughtwycough) so everything is organized and uniform.


Would a 7-day time limit on the poll be a good period to judge the approval?
 
If that means everyone gets to approve the game, not just a certain bunch, and it does not have to go through any other filters before even getting into that forum, then yes, I think that would work.

Think of it like this.

There's still the council, or the leaders, or electoral collage, or the Illuminati or whatever. But EVERYONE gets to voice a say in the thread. However, the official :up:/:down goes to the seven. HOWEVER, I'm sure that their votes will be heavily influenced upon the amount of buzz is going for said game. If everyone seems to like the idea, then I'm sure it'd get approved. However, if it's getting a bad rap, they might motion that it gets reworked and re-submitted for approval.
 
As I said in the annoucement, I'm not going to cancel the ones already started.

And, Star Wars/KoToR3 has just as much right here as Zombies. It just didn't work for whatever reason.

And the Zombie RPG probaly woulda got the same treatment if we didn't think it was approved.

I'm on your side here, don't bully me. :(
 
That statement doesn't help when I'm defending MB's right to be on the RPing comitee :p
 
I know, but I have to take every opportunity to pick on MB. It's in my Hype contract.
 
Think of it like this.

There's still the council, or the leaders, or electoral collage, or the Illuminati or whatever. But EVERYONE gets to voice a say in the thread. However, the official :up:/:down goes to the seven. HOWEVER, I'm sure that their votes will be heavily influenced upon the amount of buzz is going for said game. If everyone seems to like the idea, then I'm sure it'd get approved. However, if it's getting a bad rap, they might motion that it gets reworked and re-submitted for approval.

Yes, honestly, I'm sure there will be some critiquing;

"Oh, that power set might be to strong is X=y" etc...

We might not even need the 'Council of Seven' however getting rid of them would make MB and I the people with the sole responsibility.

Pure democracy is good, but there needs to be people to keep it alive and it's either just MB and I, or MB and I and others involved in the RPG's.
 

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