Are African Americans really African Americans?

[logansoldcigar]

^Yeah, you're American, but you're still black. You go to any other country in the world, the word American means white.

No, it means person from the USA to most of us.

 

[Outsiderzedge]

All black people originated from Africa. Back in the day, during Biblical times and before that, black people worshipped idols (black people started the whole idol worshipping stuff in which everyone else then started to do, noticably the ancient greeks) but anyway, as punishment God kicked them all over the world, spreading them out of their comfort zone, thats why you've got aborijinies(sp?) in Australasia, Black south americans and blacks here and there in all neck of the woods all over the world. Heck, black people were living in Iraq before the Arabs. The black man was punished and punished hard, purely because they just didn't listen but yeah, when ts all said and done, black people originate from Africa, the greatest and most advanced continent in the world before they themselves screwd it all up. People talk about how the whiteman came and took them as slaves, yeah thats true but again, that was part of their punishment and could have been avoided but they just didn't listen.

What?

 

[Outsiderzedge]

Nice to know that Blacks are honoring Whites by being subservient to them.

Why should blacks honor whites?

There's still a lot of deep seeded racism in many whites, even among those whom don't consider themselves racist.

 

[Outsiderzedge]

Blacks who hate whites hate whites because of unfair treatment and inequality.

Whites who hate blacks hate blacks because they simply don't like them.

You tell me who has a more legitimate reason to hate the other.

 

[War Lord]

Blacks who hate whites hate whites because of unfair treatment and inequality.

Whites who hate blacks hate blacks because they simply don't like them.

You tell me who has a more legitimate reason to hate the other.

So you're saying it's impossible for a Whites to hate Blacks because Whites have been mistreated by Blacks and that Blacks cannot hate Whites simply because they don't like them.

So ultimately you're saying that it's impossible for Blacks to be racist.

Then why are the majority of hate crimes committed by Blacks against Whites?

http://www.wnd.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=48898

'Hate crime' victims:
Young, poor, white
210,000 targeted annually
due to bias, statistics show

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Posted: February 22, 2006
1:00 a.m. Eastern


By Joseph Farah
© 2006 WorldNetDaily.com





WASHINGTON – The most likely victim of a hate crime in the U.S. is a poor, young, white, single urban dweller, according to an analysis of Justice Department statistics collected from between July 2000 and December 2003.

A November report by the Bureau of Justice Statistics detailing a study of 210,000 "hate crimes" a year during that period has gone virtually unreported by the U.S. press.

But it does contain some surprising numbers. While race is, by far, the No. 1 factor cited as the reason for hate crimes, blacks are slightly less likely to be victims and far more likely to be perpetrators, the statistics show.


As defined by the report, a collection of data compiled by the National Crime Victimization Survey and the FBI's Uniform Crime Reporting Program, an ordinary crime becomes a hate crime when offenders choose a victim because of some characteristic – race, religion, ethnicity, religion or association – and provide evidence that hate prompted them to commit the crime.

The NCVS is a database of 77,600 nationally representative people interviewed every other year about their experience with crime, while the UCR data is based on law enforcement reports to the FBI.

About 56 percent of hate crimes were motivated, at least in part, by racial hatred, according to the study, and most were accompanied by violence.

While nine in 10,000 whites and nine in 10,000 Hispanics are victimized by hate crimes, only seven in 10,000 blacks are targets, according to the report.

"Generally, per capita rates of hate crime victimization do not appear to vary based upon victim's gender, race, ethnicity or educational attainment," says the report on all hate crimes reported by victims and police. "However, young people; those never married, separated or divorced; those with low incomes; and those living in urban areas did report experiencing hate crimes at higher rates."

In fact, those between the ages of 17 and 20 were far more likely to be victims than in any other age group – with 16 incidents per 10,000 people. Those never married, with 16 incidents per 10,000, or separated or divorced, with 26 incidents per 10,000, were also much more likely to be victims of hate crimes. Those with incomes less than $25,000 faced worse odds of victimization, 13 per 10,000, as well as those in urban areas, also 13 per 10,000.

The report says 38 percent of all those reporting hate crimes said the attacker was black, and in 90 percent of those cases, the victim believed the offender's motive was racial. In incidents involving white attackers, only 30 percent attribute the hate crime to race, while 20 percent attributed it to ethnicity.

The report says 40 percent of white hate crime victims were attacked by blacks, adding, "The small number of black hate crime victims precludes analysis of the race of persons who victimized them."

The report by the Justice Department is the one most often cited by hate-crime experts as depicting the true national story. It shows the number of incidents is more than 15 times higher than FBI statistics alone reflect.



While the annual FBI report, compiled since 1992, is based on voluntary reports from law enforcement agencies around the country, the new report, "Hate Crimes Reported by Victims and Police," found an average annual total of more than 200,000.

"It's an astounding report," said Jack Levin, a leading hate crime expert at Northeastern University. "It's not necessarily completely accurate, but I would trust these data before I trusted the voluntary law enforcement reports to the FBI."

According to the new report, hate crimes involve violence far more often than other crimes. The data show 84 percent of hate crimes were violent, meaning they involved a sexual attack, robbery, assault or murder. By contrast, just 23 percent of non-hate crimes involved violence. Other studies have suggested that hate-motivated violence is more extreme than other violence.

While the press took no notice of the report, it has been praised by pressure groups promoting hate-crimes legislation and enforcement such as the Southern Christian Leadership Conference for its comprehensiveness and breadth – by far the largest study ever done on hate crimes.

 

[Outsiderzedge]

I was speaking generally.

 

[Outsiderzedge]

Racism is just racial discrimination or prejudice. The cause of that discrimination or prejudice is irrelevant. Be it out of hatred, fear or just plain ignorance, it's still racism. Hatred is not required to be racist.

 

[American Male]

Here's how I roll:

If you're a citizen of the United States, you're an American and a (in my case) Tennessean. I will not refer to you as any sort of "hyphenated American," and I don't care whether my refusal offends you or not.

American is a nationality, citizenship, and a country of origin. You have Americans of all races who are all AMERICANS.

African isn't a race. You've got Middle-Eastern-looking Africans up north (like Libyans and Egyptians), Black Africans throughout, and White Africans in the South (South African whites). "African" IS NOT a race!

I would no sooner refer to my black neighbors as "African-Americans" than I would expect them to refer to me as a "European-American."

We're all human. We're all Americans. They're black . . . I'm white. That's no different than saying that they're short and that I'm tall.

 

[Colossal Spoons]

and what's wrong about calling a white person white? or a black person black? a lot of you would call me latino, and that doesn't make me less mexican

just like calling someone african american won't make them less black

is it a heritage thing?

2 colors and an ethnicity; that's where the problem is. We all need to be on the same page and steer away from colors.

 

[Corinthian™]

let's paint us all pink and have fun!

YAAA!!!

*10 points who knows what movie is this*

 

[user123456789]

Raumschiff Surprise

 

[Corinthian™]

Raumschiff Surprise

have you seen it?

 

[War Lord]

I was speaking generally.

If the above story is correct, it's no longer generally the case that Blacks are being victimized for being Black any more.

They've moved from being the oppressed to the oppressors, in attitude.

 

[War Lord]

Racism is just racial discrimination or prejudice. The cause of that discrimination or prejudice is irrelevant. Be it out of hatred, fear or just plain ignorance, it's still racism. Hatred is not required to be racist.

You and I are in agreement here.

 

[user123456789]

have you seen it?

do i get a prize if i say yes?

 

[Corinthian™]

do i get a prize if i say yes?

no

 

[Won '08]

Oh boy lol

 

[Ballistic Liz]

^Yeah, you're American, but you're still black. You go to any other country in the world, the word American means white.

Not to me it doesn't.

Maybe ask more non-Americans first before making that asumption.

 

[logansoldcigar]

Im black so Im an African American. If your not black then you arent an African American simple as that

what about tunisia, marocco, egypt?
all african countries.

or does your cozy little rule only apply to sub saharan?
In which case, why are the africans north of the sahara not allowed to be included?

 

[War Lord]

what about tunisia, marocco, egypt?
all african countries.

or does your cozy little rule only apply to sub saharan?
In which case, why are the africans north of the sahara not allowed to be included?

Because they're impure.

Is that a picture of Art Bell in your avatar? The man in the avatar looks a lot like him.

 

[BAH HUMBBUG!]

People refer to themselves as these things all the time, theres an Italian American club right down the street from me. We all know there was an indigenous people that lived in the americas before the euro invasion and they are americans, as well, indigenous to there own country and reigion. It all depends how far back you want to go though??? The whole land bridge from asia concept......

Well can I just call myself a Human? Or how about a Person? Maybe an Earthling?

 

[PLAS]

let's paint us all pink and have fun!

YAAA!!!

*10 points who knows what movie is this*

oh, yeah, that crappy movie you lent me that wasn't even funny?
yeah, I remember

 

[Won '08]

All of this makes me laugh...yet it also saddens me.

 

[Erzengel]

2 colors and an ethnicity; that's where the problem is. We all need to be on the same page and steer away from colors.

Man you and crayola are totally out of your gord. Getting rid of flesh, indian red, asian yellow and polish purple (it's green).

 

[ironmaidenrules]

how do i become an american-african?

do i first dye my skin black or move to africa 1st?