Arnold Is Back for Terminator 5 - Part 1

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Yeah, I know it's not very popular with fans (I'm one myself, but whatever). What I find sad about the whole uproar about Iron Man 3 is that Shane Black has always been very open to discuss the movie with the fans. But didn't even get a chance.

Personally, I think it's the only really worthwhile movie produced by the Marvel Studios together with Jon Favreau's Iron Man. The Avengers was kinda nice and cute, but that's pretty much about it. It plays too safe. It barely has a plot, or any bold or suprising (creative) decisions.

Avengers was the first time that anyone's tried a team up movie like this, and it could have so easily gone wrong. I don't blame them for "playing it safe" the first time around. And it had a plot, not a super deep one, but a functional one. They had so many different elements to juggle that having an overly-complicated plot would have simply been too much. The first Star Wars movie had a simple plot, as did the first Indiana Jones movie, and Jaws all had simple plots and they're considered classics. Personally, Avengers is my favorite CBM ever and it's much better than IM 3 (which didn't really work for me).
 
Yeah, I see. I'm completely fine with simply plotlines. It's the plot's execution (and Joss Whedon's directing, which I actually found quite to be quite TV-ish) that didn't work for me. I didn't find it all too exciting, and a group of superheroes teaming up ALONE doesn't make me go gaga over a movie.
 
Whedon's directing is totally tv-ish. I've always thought that about The Avengers, best parts of it are when everybody finally meets up and the helicarrier is going down then the last 30 minutes. The first 30 minutes is so hard to sit through after the first viewing. All the set up was just so damn boring for me
 
Whedon's work on The Avengers was weird to me. It felt like quite a few steps back from his work on Serenity.
 
I wouldn't be mad if they went with Courtney. Enjoyed him in Jack Reacher and A Good Day to Die Hard.

Impossible!

:oldrazz:

I'm not really sure how to feel about this movie; I've been screwed over too many times with sequels/revivals to '80s/early '90s action classics. Alien vs Predator series, Terminator: Salvation, A Good Day to Die Hard & the new Robocop, they all just feel like soulless cash-ins to me & I'm sort of done with looking forward to anything similar.

Here's hoping for the best though, the Terminator franchise deserves better than everything that's happened to it since T2 came out.
 
Impossible!

:oldrazz:

I'm not really sure how to feel about this movie; I've been screwed over too many times with sequels/revivals to '80s/early '90s action classics. Alien vs Predator series, Terminator: Salvation, A Good Day to Die Hard & the new Robocop, they all just feel like soulless cash-ins to me & I'm sort of done with looking forward to anything similar.

Here's hoping for the best though, the Terminator franchise deserves better than everything that's happened to it since T2 came out.

Sarah Connor Chronicles was amazing though.
 
Ehhh I guess I have to deal with it but he's no Kyle Reese to me.
 
WEEEEELP!!!!!!!

God, I really hope he does better than in the last """""Die Hard"""""".

Extra quotation marks because it was barely a Die Hard movie, the PG-13 version of Live Free was a better Die Hard movie. :/
 
Meh.

Jai Courtney is no Michael Biehn. And I think he looks too much like a stereotypical strapping action hero tough guy for Kyle Reese. Biehn just looked like a regular guy, and I think casting a more stereotypical tough guy like Courtney loses some of the everyman effect.

I'd rather have Anton Yelchin back.

I have very little interest in this entire project. The original Terminator doesn't need remade, and the fact that we still have Schwarzenegger around for no apparent reason other than because they can't let go of him no matter how past-his-prime he is makes me dubious of their claims about a reboot.
 
It's a wait and see choice for me. Both the Clarke's were great casting. I'm still very interested but am weary still.
 
Courtney's even more bland than Sam Worthington though. I wish studios would stop trying to shove these talentless hacks down our throats.

I'd rather have Anton Yelchin back.

For real.
 
Meh.

Jai Courtney is no Michael Biehn. And I think he looks too much like a stereotypical strapping action hero tough guy for Kyle Reese. Biehn just looked like a regular guy, and I think casting a more stereotypical tough guy like Courtney loses some of the everyman effect.

I'd rather have Anton Yelchin back.

I have very little interest in this entire project. The original Terminator doesn't need remade, and the fact that we still have Schwarzenegger around for no apparent reason other than because they can't let go of him no matter how past-his-prime he is makes me dubious of their claims about a reboot.

Which is why Biehn worked so well in the role. He didn't look like he could take on a Terminator like Schwarzenegger and win. He had to rely on intelligence and agility to keep himself alive.

And on top of it, bringing Arnold back doesn't impress me either, unless he's just a scientist (ha!) who is not some aging Terminator machine.
 
I have nothing against Courtney because I haven't seen him act but I think that's some odd Kyle Reese casting based on looks alone. If this was a full reboot whocares but it isn't so I don't get it.
 
Whedon's work on The Avengers was weird to me. It felt like quite a few steps back from his work on Serenity.

Agreed. Maybe not in terms of direction, as I think Avengers and Much Ado have shown him getting further away from the TV format (thankfully), but in terms of writing? Serenity is a much smarter movie with a much trickier plot and group of characterizations, at least for Mal, River, and the Operative. Now, I kind of want to go watch it again thinking about it.
 
After age of ultron I'd like him to do another original work like cabin in the woods.
 
Agreed. Maybe not in terms of direction, as I think Avengers and Much Ado have shown him getting further away from the TV format (thankfully), but in terms of writing? Serenity is a much smarter movie with a much trickier plot and group of characterizations, at least for Mal, River, and the Operative. Now, I kind of want to go watch it again thinking about it.

No no, in terms of direction too.
 
Whedon's directing is totally tv-ish. I've always thought that about The Avengers, best parts of it are when everybody finally meets up and the helicarrier is going down then the last 30 minutes. The first 30 minutes is so hard to sit through after the first viewing. All the set up was just so damn boring for me

A part of it is the aspect ratio he used. I guess he chose the one for The Avengers because it's easier to film with when it comes to action sequences and overall blocking.

Also there were weird shots, like the low dutch angles. He also had awkward shots in 'Much Ado'.

On the positive side, he's very good with actors and action, so that's why I'm more forgiving.

One director who doesn't get enough credit from jumping from TV producing to FILM is JJ Abrams. His films all look like legit movies.
 
Awful choice for Kyle. Hard to be optimistic about this.
 
Disagree, I thought that both were awesome. But different strokes I guess. The Courtney casting is quite meh, but Emilia and Jason Clarke still make me excited for this. And of course, the brawny man himself coming back as well.
 
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