Arnold Is Back for Terminator 5

[Thundercrack85]

Fourth time's the charm.

To be fair, in the tv show, Skynet sent back over a dozen terminators.

Actually, much as I hate Terminator 3, it did introduce a pretty... good idea: the Terminator kills important people when it can't find John Connor.

Obviously, this makes more logical sense, since, rather than searching for weeks aimlessly, it could off a good chunk of the resistance's leadership, and draw John out (provided he has another character from the future telling him this is happening).

 

[Hunter Rider]

I can't believe you like that idea. It makes me quake in horror. Though I guess I did think Rise of the Planet of the Apes was going to be crap and ended up loving it...

No cuddlebear I am not blinded by lust. There is plenty of lust there but I know when I think a man can act or not.

It wouldn't be my first choice as the route to go with a new Terminator movie, but if old Arnie is going to be involved I think it's the best way to use him.

I do like the name cuddlebear.

 

[Thundarr]

I want another Terminator movie and I don't mind if Dwayne Johnson is in it, just not one set in the past again. It's been three times that Skynet has tried and failed to accomplish killing someone in the past.

Why can't it be focused in the future, during the war? Or events leading up to the creation of time travel? Salvation wasn't the best movie but it still gets higher marks from me for finally daring to stop repeating the same damned story for the fourth time in a row.

Hell, if it has to include time travel, have it set in the future with someone/robot from further in the future trying to change something from their past instead of ours. Going to the 1950's just doesn't sound fun or appealing.

Well it can't really have machines from farther in the future going back in time to adult John Connor's present. Kyle Reese said in the first Terminator movie that the humans had won the war. Skynet's defense grid was destroyed. They were about to destroy the main computer when they discovered the Temporal Displacement technology. That's when Reese went back in time to intercept the T-800. Without the main computer controlling the factories churning out terminators and other automated killing machines, it's just a matter of destroying what's left.

However, I would like to see a futuristic war movie about the war up to that point. See how they smashed the machines' defense grid. See them as they storm Skynet Central. Then they find the Tempoal Displacement equipment and are like "Oh s#!t".

 

[Whiskey Tango]

Skynet doesn't know what Sarah Connor looks like, or where she lives, but it somehow knew what someone who protected her family in the 50's looked like?

Makes sense.

I can't believe you like that idea. It makes me quake in horror.

Jesus H, I didn't say it was a good idea, just pondering a few ways Arnie could be involved without actually playing a wrinkled, flabby Terminator. I'm not writing the ****ing screenplay, don't worry.

Personally I really would like to see a film about the guy the T-800 was based on. I think there's a cool story there, and I doubt Skynet was creative enough to put it together itself. It has to be based on someone. I was hoping Salvation would introduce Schwarzenegger as some badass resistance soldier that got captured and assimilated or something but clearly that didn't pan out.

Anyway, not too excited just yet but this'll have a better chance if they edge more towards hard sci-fi and less wacky action hijinks.

 

[Thundercrack85]

I always assumed Skynet just made its early terminators look that way (like a strongman) because of technological limitations (couldn't made them any smaller). The only other T-800 we see is also really buff.

The concept art for Salvation seems to go with the same logic, as the Terminators get smaller, and smaller, but the T-800 is still quite big. Its the first robot Skynet built that it could pass for human in close quarters (the T-600, with its size and rubber skin only works from a decent distance).

If you wanted to build an inconspicuous infiltrator, you wouldn't make it look like Arnold or the Rock. You'd make it look like the T-1000.

 

[Warhammer]

I hated how the T-600 in Terminator Salvation is a complete contradiction of what Kyle Reese describes. The man clearly says that it was designed as an infiltration unit but the rubber skin gave it away. How the hell could that big ass T-600 even attempt to pass as a human, let alone the fact that the damn thing walked like the ED209.

 

[smallville fan]

I hated how the T-600 in Terminator Salvation is a complete contradiction of what Kyle Reese describes. The man clearly says that it was designed as an infiltration unit but the rubber skin gave it away. How the hell could that big ass T-600 even attempt to pass as a human, let alone the fact that the damn thing walked like the ED209.

Well the funny thing about time travel in movies is that stuff like small details like that changes a lot. Besides after the events of T2, didn't Judgment Day get stalled temporarily? That could have slowed the Terminator's overall progress into becoming that?

Btw, are they really the plot of going back in time to kill the Connors again? *sighs and boos*. I like the idea of continuing the fight in the future with what Salvation tried to do.

 

[Thundercrack85]

Well, the movies do have a few logic problems. Like, how Skynet has made at least four robots that look exactly the same.

Terminator 3 actually gives an explanation as to why it made yet another terminator that looks like Arnold, but it like everything else in that movie is riddled with plot holes.

Supposedly, the new Skynet knew what the terminator who John interacted with in the second movie looked like. How it knew that, is never explained (probably because there is no plausible explanation).

Still, we gotta shoehorn Arnold in there someway. Continuity be damned.

 

[I SEE SPIDEY]

It wouldn't be my first choice as the route to go with a new Terminator movie, but if old Arnie is going to be involved I think it's the best way to use him.

I do like the name cuddlebear.

I was tired of using the standard names.

Jesus H, I didn't say it was a good idea, just pondering a few ways Arnie could be involved without actually playing a wrinkled, flabby Terminator. I'm not writing the ****ing screenplay, don't worry.

Personally I really would like to see a film about the guy the T-800 was based on. I think there's a cool story there, and I doubt Skynet was creative enough to put it together itself. It has to be based on someone. I was hoping Salvation would introduce Schwarzenegger as some badass resistance soldier that got captured and assimilated or something but clearly that didn't pan out.

Anyway, not too excited just yet but this'll have a better chance if they edge more towards hard sci-fi and less wacky action hijinks.

I know you were just putting ideas out there and I appreciate the effort. I just haven't liked most of the ideas that I've read. Whatever they decide to do I that it gives us a good film.

 

[StarLord]

So The Rock will be playing a Terminator in the 50s? A big bad colored guy in 50s America doesn't sound like a good combo. On the plus side, Arnie's character could be one of those Nazi scientists from Project/Operation Paperclip working on an early version of Skynet.

Is he related to the scientist that Arnie was playing in Junior?

 

[dark_b]

Well the funny thing about time travel in movies is that stuff like small details like that changes a lot. Besides after the events of T2, didn't Judgment Day get stalled temporarily? That could have slowed the Terminator's overall progress into becoming that?

Btw, are they really the plot of going back in time to kill the Connors again? *sighs and boos*. I like the idea of continuing the fight in the future with what Salvation tried to do.

ok but they build the T800 already. a normal progress would be that hey first build a robot with fake skin that can run and move like a human. and then you add the realistic skin on top. the T600 was like a tank. he would never get close to humans. never.

 

[Teelie]

Well it can't really have machines from farther in the future going back in time to adult John Connor's present. Kyle Reese said in the first Terminator movie that the humans had won the war. Skynet's defense grid was destroyed. They were about to destroy the main computer when they discovered the Temporal Displacement technology. That's when Reese went back in time to intercept the T-800. Without the main computer controlling the factories churning out terminators and other automated killing machines, it's just a matter of destroying what's left.

However, I would like to see a futuristic war movie about the war up to that point. See how they smashed the machines' defense grid. See them as they storm Skynet Central. Then they find the Tempoal Displacement equipment and are like "Oh s#!t".

Yet Skynet was "stopped" at least twice and Terminator 3 hinted you can't change the future in any significant way. Having Skynet make a come back or another A.I. take up the mantle wouldn't be out of the question.

Still it isn't my preference to have an even more advanced future plot device come back in time to our future to stop someone. It's still a retread of the previous time travel trope which I think is over done. Especially involving anyone named "Connor." I only made that remark if it absolutely had to be involved somehow.

I'm still in the frame that it should be set during the battle with Skynet and not involve time travel.

 

[smallville fan]

ok but they build the T800 already. a normal progress would be that hey first build a robot with fake skin that can run and move like a human. and then you add the realistic skin on top. the T600 was like a tank. he would never get close to humans. never.

I see what you mean. I'm going just going to leave all those small explanations that makes everyone's heads hurt to time travel causing a butterfly effect. In this case it caused that change.

Bottom line here is, don't sweat the small stuff, just enjoy the movie as it is. Unless they are going to recycle a used plot that became overused and cliched since 2003, then as General Zod would say: "I WILL FIND HIM!"

 

[AVEITWITHJAMON]

I hated how the T-600 in Terminator Salvation is a complete contradiction of what Kyle Reese describes. The man clearly says that it was designed as an infiltration unit but the rubber skin gave it away. How the hell could that big ass T-600 even attempt to pass as a human, let alone the fact that the damn thing walked like the ED209.

I said this exact during the whole production of TS and in the movie itself I hated it, an infiltration unit thats 9 feet tall is ridiculous. The T-600 was meant to be the first infiltration unit to get into human strongholds, the one in TS couldnt even fit through a human doorway.

Anyway, hope the rumours of the movie being set in the 40's are untrue, thats just retreading old ground, give us something new but do it properly, unlike TS. As someone else said also in the first movie Skynet didnt even know what Sarah Connor looked like, let alone who her parents were. Not to mention the humans had won at this point.

 

[Teelie]

Another point I wanted to mention but forgot was how could her parents never mention a robot attacking them? She grew up, lived a normal life and never once did her parents ever so much as hint at this family curse of robots hunting for them from the future? Or are they somehow ignorant the entire movie of the monstrous, unkillable man who keeps stalking them?

 

[Kane52630]

I just see every Terminator film as their own timeline. Every time they go back in time, it causes new stream of time. It's much easier to think about.

 

[Whiskey Tango]

Another point I wanted to mention but forgot was how could her parents never mention a robot attacking them?

Because it hasn't happened yet.

I just see every Terminator film their own timeline. Every time they go back in time, it causes new stream of time. It's much easier to think about.

 

[Teelie]

It hasn't happened yet... but is set in the past before the first movie implying it did happen. Skynet is destroyed, sends back a Terminator to the 80's and 90's and nowhere is it ever mentioned one goes back to the 40's or 50's. It just happens without any hint. So assuming this is true, then when it does happen it alters everything after it invalidating parts of it, altering others and becoming an even messier timeline to sort out than we have now.

And this is an improvement?

 

[Alex_Spider]

I'd give anything to see a teaser like this in cinemas again.

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The best of them all. Raw, brutal, mixing horror with sci fi. That's the 80's baby. There's no point in hoping though. Hollywood today is full of PG13 bull*** with flashy explosions and cheesy one liners. Not to mention the silly CGI fest most of movies are made. Long gone is the magic we got in movies like The Terminator, Jurassic Park, Alien, Conan the Barbarian, Robocop, Fright Night etc. I know I am a nostalgic fanatic who can't keep up with the times.

 

[Teelie]

Heh, you complain about "CGI fest" but list several movies that had a good use of CGI in them, most notably Jurassic Park which was impressive for it's CGI work.

The problem is not the CGI itself, it's the misuse of it, just like any other special effect. It's just an easier tool to abuse than those before it. There are CGI-heavy movies you wouldn't know were computer effects and some so bad you'd swear were computer effects but just had poorly implemented practical effects in them.

But I agree in general there is too much abuse of CGI and they are lazy with it.

 

[Alex_Spider]

I am just fed up with the level of garbage Hollywood puts out in the recent years. I mean just look at the classic movies we got in the 80's and early 90's compared to now. All we see is book adaptations, reboots, remakes and less original ideas. I get depressed thinking that young movie goers consider Bayformers a "cool" movie spectacle along with that Skyline crap, Battleship and the likes of Twilight. The same applies to the music industry also. Everything is done in a fast food mentality to satisfy the general audience with no moral thinking or philosophical questions.

 

[Warhammer]

Optimus Prime doing the voiceover sure does make that teaser fantastic. However, I will raise you and say this is an even better teaser:

 

[StarLord]

Nah! Peter Cullen makes the first one infinitely better!

 

[Teelie]

I am just fed up with the level of garbage Hollywood puts out in the recent years. I mean just look at the classic movies we got in the 80's and early 90's compared to now. All we see is book adaptations, reboots, remakes and less original ideas. I get depressed thinking that young movie goers consider Transformers a "cool" movie spectacle along with that Skyline crap, Battleship and the likes of Twilight. The same applies to the music industry also. Everything is done in a fast food mentality to satisfy the general audience with no moral thinking or philosophical questions.

I agree but I also feel the need to point out it isn't a new thing and Hollywood has rebooted/made/started/invented so many franchises and genres over the years it doesn't surprise me anymore.

There are some excellent movies you wouldn't know were either a remake or reboot of a previous movie had you not been born when the original came out.

That though is where Hollywood has over done it and started remaking movies that weren't even that old to begin with. Anything from the 80's is currently hot, now the early 90's.

It's like they aren't even trying to hide it anymore. Star Trek, Star Wars, Spider-Man and Superman are among the most blatant examples of not even waiting a decade for a franchise to cool off before rebooting them.

 

[TheIrishAvenger]

RELEASE DATE: June 26th, 2015!

T5 is intended to be the first in a new trilogy!