Arrow Arrow Season 3 Episode 16 the offer

[kane9321]

yeah diggle!( and roy i like roy!) is a big reason i keep watching! That freaking dude should be a john stewart/green lantern!!
But all this going back and forth! Thea calling the loa on malcolm and then letting him sleep on her couch?!? What the &*() is that?! It goes from felicity saying good bye to oliver and then being sad that she is with ray. This going back and forth stuff is bugging me!

its pissing me off bro...
After they killed sara..the writting has been crap
DAMN I WANTED LAUREL TO GET HIT BY THAT VAN

 

[JC00]

What the **** did he even attach that to?

Looks to me like the street light. In regular speed it looks weird but if you slow it down he starts to veer to the right.

 

[JC00]

Sometimes I wonder how Flash could be so good yet this show has failed to go back to that great Season 1 glory.

Great season 1 glory? Take off the revisionist history glasses the season was fine, but there were a just as much complaining about it as this season maybe even more.

Comparing it to The Flash is dumb. How about we wait until The Flash is midway thru its 3rd season and then compare.

Episode 15 and we already have time travel. They might want to slow the train down just a tad.

 

[Loki882]

Well if the Flash does what I fear that they're going to do next episode, then I'm going to be MUCH angrier at that show than I am at this one for having a "ok but nothing special" kind of episode.

 

[Lencho01]

Do you guys know that the actor playing Murmur has played Smallville's first freak of the week, Jeremy Creek?

That was him?! Wow!

 

[Rowsdower!]

All I want to know is, does Murmur eat by snorting food through a straw?

 

[Primal Slayer]

Arrow (2.4 mil/0.8)
http://tvline.com/2015/03/19/empire-season-finale-ratings-record/

 

[BLACKVULCAN]

After they killed sara..the writting has been crap

yeah totally agree man! i think those dudes didn't realize how much people would love sara and be pissed off when she died. those dudes have been scrambling every since! and that Oliver willing himself back to life ^&* explained by Ras was some DUMB ASS&*(!
there's plenty of people try to will themselves back to health and cant with a FREAKIN HUGE SWORD IN THEIR CHEST!! damn i kno its a comic book show.. but give a little something thats halfway plausible.hahaha

 

[Primal Slayer]

Sara's death didn't drive any viewers away, so people can't be that pissed off.

 

[kedrell]

Well this was a better than average episode for this season. At least forward momentum story-wise is working once again and that's good to see. Glad the show is back.

7.5/10

 

[BLACKVULCAN]

heh i just chalk it up to people get USE to something... kinda like you have a DOG who bites you every time you pick it up, but you still keep it around cause you are "USE" to it. thats how it is with me and ARROW and dont get me wrong i loved Arrow in its inception and season 2 was the Bomb.. but this season has been WHAT THE______( insert word here) hehe

 

[JC00]

Also personally dressing up as Arrow just to murder some criminals seems a bit unnecessary for a guy with hundreds of assassins at his command.

I think that was purely done for the fact if they showed some random member doing it some people might be confused. But judging by that PaleyFest trailer there will be other LoA members wearing a green suit.

 

[Mikelus]

Gimmie Gimmie MOAR Gimmie MOAR

Are you thinking what I'm thinking?

The chemistry is there and since Arrow loves sharing exes lol...

"My planet needs me"

That scene is a reflection of this season and how the producers don't care about attention to detail and logic anymore.



You guys want to know why Malcolm is not dead yet? Because the producers are infatuated with John Barrowman (SHH interview):

SHH: Has anyone talked to you about Arrow Season 4?

Barrowman: Oh yeah. I’ve already been commissioned and I’m here for a while. I’ll be here for a long time.

SHH: So there’s no getting rid of Malcolm Merlyn?

Barrowman: There’s no getting rid of John Barrowman!

http://www.superherohype.com/featur...-and-the-flash-interviews-from-paleyfest-2015

This infatuation is ruining the character and the show, Ra's should've killed him, but whatever. The episode was just ok, but Oliver needing to save the cops to know what he's doing was very contrived and artificial, he decided to be a hero in Season 2, to save people instead of just killing criminals from his father's list. He should know by now why he's the Arrow.

Ra's wanting someone like Oliver to be his successor is not believable. Oliver has shown his incompetence by how poorly he handled the Malcolm situation, besides, Nyssa shares Ra's philosophy, she's a better fit than Oliver. Hopefully, they will not ruin Ra's Al Ghul too, but is not looking very good at the moment.

For the ones saying how much better The Flash is, don't worry, they will ruin that show too. Like Arrow, they also use forced love triangles and we already have Barry and Iris cheating on Linda and Eddie, completely unnecessary and awful for the characters. The Reverse Flash plot is saving the show, but once he's gone, you know is not going to be as good.

 

[Primal Slayer]

Flash doesn't have the limitations that Arrow does. They were so hellbent on Arrow being grounded and everyone having to have an "Island" it just made certain things worse. Flash isn't about that. Iris doesn't have a destiny to become some super hero so i think Flash will be fine.

 

[Loki882]

Oliver also saved his city twice in as many years, and he's defeated countless threats. So no, he's not as incompetent as some people seem to think, except for when Malcolm is involved. And Nyssa hardly has a stellar track record on the show either.

 

[SpideyVille]

I also feel like they needed to finally get Ra's away from Nanda Parbat. The fact that he showed up in Starling but didn't try to kill Oliver shows that he's only messing with him and his head now to force his hand.

 

[Bats1690]

As much as I like Nyssa, she's not any better than Oliver in terms of leading the League. She lets her emotions dictate her actions and she's lost to Oliver on numerous occasions. She may share Ra's philosophy, but she sure doesn't keep her emotions in check like him nor is she anywhere near the caliber of fighter he is.

 

[Loki882]

Well I've called BS on Nyssa losing to Oliver, or at least with such relative ease, many times. So Nyssa's going after the other Lance sister now is she? Well I suppose if Oliver can do it, then turnabout is fair play.

 

[Bats1690]

Well I've called BS on Nyssa losing to Oliver, or at least with such relative ease, many times. So Nyssa's going after the other Lance sister now is she? Well I suppose if Oliver can do it, then turnabout is fair play.

So have I and I hate it, but those are the facts. As much as we dislike it, we can't exactly change it.

 

[JC00]

Why do people have such hard time with Oliver getting an upper hand on Nyssa in one fight when he put her in an arm bar ? For as much skill as she has Oliver beats her in sheer strength which is what he used to get the upperhand.

The other time was when he shot her with a binding arrow.

 

[Slade W]

I think Oliver and Nyssa are even. They are both great fighters on the same level and who wins comes down to who is better on the day. Nyssa had the beating of Oliver in "The Magician" (and I think in some other episodes) until Malcolm intervened if I remember correctly. It is the same with Malcolm and Nyssa. Malcolm got the better of her in "The Magician" and Nyssa got the better of him in "Nanda Parbat". They are all great fighters and whoever win comes down to who is better on the day, like I said already. Ra's however, has shown that he is on a much higher level than all of them (including Slade) so far.

 

[mr. peasant]

Re: Oliver vs Nyssa in terms of inheriting leadership of the League, it's not so much a question of skill or physicial abilities - that's why you have followers to do your bidding. Rather, it's one of character. Oliver has a mission. Moreover, he's shown repeatedly that he's willing to make sacrifices for the sake of said mission; while always using said mission as a moral compass even when he doesn't fully understand why he's doing what he's doing. In contrast, Nyssa will lose track of the mission for the sake of those she cares about.

Also, consider how that despite having been part of the League all her life, Nyssa has no allies or companions within it who seem willing to stand by her side. In contrast, Oliver has a full crew whose loyalty he earned from the ground up.

 

[Mikelus]

Flash doesn't have the limitations that Arrow does. They were so hellbent on Arrow being grounded and everyone having to have an "Island" it just made certain things worse. Flash isn't about that. Iris doesn't have a destiny to become some super hero so i think Flash will be fine.

Is not about being grounded or other limitations, Berlanti and company are very hit or miss as writers, so is not a surprise Arrow is so flawed. The Flash has its problems too and I'm sure Supergirl and the CW spinoff will not be exceptions either.

As much as I like Nyssa, she's not any better than Oliver in terms of leading the League. She lets her emotions dictate her actions and she's lost to Oliver on numerous occasions. She may share Ra's philosophy, but she sure doesn't keep her emotions in check like him nor is she anywhere near the caliber of fighter he is.

And Oliver is very emotional too, that's why Malcolm is still alive, he thinks poor Thea will be destroyed by his death, showing lack of confidence on her as a person. Thea is not a baby, she can get over her murderous father paying for his crimes. Oliver should've let Ra's take care of Malcolm, much smarter than risking Merlyn causing more problems in the near future. Anyway, is just part of the bad writing this season, along with Oliver not dying, Malcolm's moronic plan, etc, etc...

 

[luis4u]

Are you thinking what I'm thinking?

The chemistry is there and since Arrow loves sharing exes lol...





That scene is a reflection of this season and how the producers don't care about attention to detail and logic anymore.



You guys want to know why Malcolm is not dead yet? Because the producers are infatuated with John Barrowman (SHH interview):



This infatuation is ruining the character and the show, Ra's should've killed him, but whatever. The episode was just ok, but Oliver needing to save the cops to know what he's doing was very contrived and artificial, he decided to be a hero in Season 2, to save people instead of just killing criminals from his father's list. He should know by now why he's the Arrow.

Ra's wanting someone like Oliver to be his successor is not believable. Oliver has shown his incompetence by how poorly he handled the Malcolm situation, besides, Nyssa shares Ra's philosophy, she's a better fit than Oliver. Hopefully, they will not ruin Ra's Al Ghul too, but is not looking very good at the moment.

For the ones saying how much better The Flash is, don't worry, they will ruin that show too. Like Arrow, they also use forced love triangles and we already have Barry and Iris cheating on Linda and Eddie, completely unnecessary and awful for the characters. The Reverse Flash plot is saving the show, but once he's gone, you know is not going to be as good.

Merlyn needs to go on a long vacation and not come until season 6.

 

[Loki882]

Why do people have such hard time with Oliver getting an upper hand on Nyssa in one fight when he put her in an arm bar ? For as much skill as she has Oliver beats her in sheer strength which is what he used to get the upperhand.

The other time was when he shot her with a binding arrow.

That's the problem though, she's 0 for 2 against him, and in neither fight was it even close. They wrote two separate scenarios, and in BOTH cases wrote it so that Oliver beat her with seemingly not much effort. You can't try and build her up as this big badass and then make it so that she cannot even come close to beating Oliver. Also, it doesn't match what her established character is (life-long assassin, daughter of Ra's, and until recently his heir apparent). And then they made it worse by having her pretty quickly take down Malcolm, who was kicking Oliver's ass all over the place in season 1. That's another problem really, inconsistently-portrayed power/skill-levels.