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Discussion in 'Marvel Films' started by MSJ, Oct 28, 2004.
Well, last pictures from Comic Con seems to somewhat have answered this one....
I would be surprised if X3 made it's release date. If it is rushed...which it looks like it is being...then that is going to be bad news. And you said teaser...not trailer. I would expect a teaser sometime before the end of the year.
X3 is going to be release on time. It's assured success so they might be spending more money than usual and doing post production work after each scene instead of waiting for the whole film to be done. This way when filming is wrapped post prodution will take half the time leaving the room to fix things, tweak things, and make it perfect. Spielberg did it this way with WOTW which I hated but the editing and post production work looked fine.
X3 if released on that date had a big chance of being a rushed looking movie. I personally think Ghost Rider has too much post production time and should switch with X3.
I agree. There's never too much time for post. Take your time MSJ and Sony. Get this thing perfect!
Other than that, I think we should keep furter major discussions. For further discussions on this topic, check out this new thread I just started.
Yes true but a movie can also have too little production. I am saying it is getting too much production time compared to X3. I am not wanting to see it 2 months early...I can wait. I was thinking about X3 but oh well.
Last night I had a dream where I was conducting a phone interview with MSJ and asked some of these questions. I clearly hang around here too much.
I have a question though; what were his answers?
The only one I can remember even vaguely was the shotgun. It was something like it would be only used to the demons in human form.
So, the comic-con is all over and while many concerns were answered, we still have many questions. Of course, I'm sure we will continue too for the next year.
Hmmm... I wonder if MSJ was advised by Sony to stop chattin' about the movie on the threads here. Perhaps they've all decided to keep things 'official'?
Right, never underestimate the news from the dreamlands.
Bump. Just wanna make sure this stays on the first page... because you never know.
Another excuss to bump...
One more question; Were you inspired at all by the conversations had here on the hype for things in the movie?
Hey guys. What's up? Sorry I've been gone so long. It's late on Friday night and I have a moment to myself so I thought I'd check back in and see how you're all doing. Things are going great on the G.R. front. In fact, today I got to hear the Ghost Rider's voice for the first time!!! My Sound Designer is Dane Davis, who won the Academy Award for The Matrix, and is a true genius when it comes to creating new sounds. To start with, Dane took Nic's reading of all of the Ghost Rider's lines, filtered them through 3 different kinds of animal growls (played backwards, covering three separate frequencies) then played it through a mechanical volumizer, before finally setting the whole thing on fire! It's fantastic. Picture a deep, demonic, mechanical lion's roar and you'll get an idea of what he sounds like. One thing is for sure -- his voice will shake the theatre!
Comic Con was great. I hope some of you got to go. It had only been a few weeks since wrap, so I didn't have much to offer, but I didn't want to show up empty-handed so we put together a little teaser. Unfortunately, it got put on the internet by mistake. And although it was a good piece for what it was, it had virtually no action and no Ghost Rider in it! I was pissed off, to say the least. The Ghost Rider some of you saw was a proof of concept test that was done before filming even began. The finished look is going to blow your mind, I promise. I know some of you have asked to have the teaser back on the net, but trust me, the real one will be worth the wait!
Biggun directed me to some questions on this link. So I'll try and answer a few before I knock off for the night...
-- There was a report a few months ago by someone who saw concept drawings for Blackheart stating the character looked like a "nosferatu type creature". Is this description true?
Blackheart is shown in what I consider his "Human form" for much of the movie. But along the way we get hints of what lies underneath. By the climax we see his true self -- and it's horrifying. There will be some of the classic comic look along with other horrific elements to his look.
-- There have been a few long time fans of GR who were upset over the fact that the character would use a "Hellfire Shotgun" instead of shooting flames from the hands like in the original 70's comic. Is it possible that the shotgun is a rare occurrence and GR would instead use the chain and Penance Stare for most of the movie? Why did you feel it was necessary for GR to use a shotgun instead of shooting Hellfire from his hands?
The Shotgun only appears later in the film. For most of the movie GR uses the chain and the Penance Stare. And he throws fire as well!!
-- Avi Arad called the line up for the soundtrack "Southern rock". However, many of us can't picture Ghost Rider pummeling demons to the tune of Lynard Skynard. I think its safe to say fans have always associated GR with hard rock/metal. To give us an idea where this soundtrack is going could you give us some bands you were interested in getting for the album?
The more I work on the film, the more it feels like score rather than songs. I made the mistake of too many songs in DD, and although it made for a great album, I think it hurt the movie. When I mention Southern Rock, I don't mean classic rock, I mean what would today's version of that style of music be like? I don't want this to be another generic hard rock soundtrack movie. GR deserves better than that. Southern Rock was an idea that came out of the Western feel of the movie. That all being said, the only songs I'm cutting to so far in the temp mix are ACDC and ZZ Top!
-- Could you elaborate on the personality of the Ghost Rider for the film? Will he be based on the 90's version or will he be based on the evil (and much cooler ) Zarathos from the classic 70's series.
The Ghost Rider is one mean sonofa*****. Nic and I really wanted to play it as a Jekyll & Hyde kind of relationship. Johnny is actually a really honest, decent, simple man. Albeit, one who made a really rotten deal as a kid. But the Ghost Rider doesn't give a damn about anybody. All he cares about is hunting. In our movie, the presence of evil sets the Ghost Rider off. And in one scene Johnny is thrown into a holding cell with a bunch of inmates. He begs the guards not to put him in there. The guards think that Johnny is afraid of what the inmates will do to him. But, in truth, Johnny's afraid of what the Ghost Rider will do to them. The Ghost Rider, of course, is delighted with the whole scenario and can't wait to come out and 'play.'
-- Do you plan on breaking the 2 hour mark?
It's a little over that now in the cut. I think so...
-- Is the release date set in stone?
Nope. Sometime in Summer 2006. Which month is up for grabs.
-- Is there any chance for Danny Ketch showing up in this movie or the future?
Not in this story. But maybe in the future. Who knows?
-- I have heard Horror used for the theme of this movie. Will there actually be moments in this film that will make you gasp, scream, or grab onto the person next to you?
Yup. In fact, there are three scenes in the movie that make myself and my editor jump every time we watch them! And we know they're coming!
-- I've noticed in the early issues of the 70s Ghost Rider comics that John Blaze kept his personality despite the physical transformation into Ghost Rider. Is this going to be the case for the movie, or is the movie going down the Jekyll and Hyde route with GR as a seperate personality like in the later issues of the 70s run and throughout the 90s run?
More Jekyll & Hyde. Although as the story progresses, Johnny is trying to gain control of the spirit inside him -- with mixed results.
-- The bike is obviously MUCH different than either version we've seen (not that it's a bad thing) and I'm wondering where that idea can from and why the major change? Also, about the bike, can any of Johnny's bikes change into the hellcyle or is it just 'Grace'? (Was that 3 questions there? That doesn't count! hehe)
Yeah, the bike from the comics is cool, both the 70's version and the 90's version. But I did think it could be improved upon. I always thought that the Hellcycle should look like Ghost Rider, like the Batmobile looked like Batman. My theory has always been that Hellfire affects metal in a specific way. That's why his shotgun turns into a Hellfire shotgun, why the studs in his motorcycle jacket turn into three inch spikes, and why his old chopper turns into a flaming Hellcycle. I liked the idea that it was a part of him, if you will, that it was a machine but also a beast.
-- The picture of Ghost Rider that was released not long ago looks almost perfect... except for the skull, which looks a little cartoony. Is this something that the studio realizes and is it being worked on?
The picture you saw on the net or at comic con is cool, but it's only a painting. A real photo of the Ghost Rider doesn't exist yet. But it's going to look far cooler than that. There is a whole team of geniuses at Sony Imageworks who do nothing but work on the look of that flaming skull.
-- Will the movie have any of the same elements of the upcomming Ghost Rider comic. Like is Matt Long's story much like what happens in Garth Ennis's storyline or are they completly seperate things?
I haven't read Garth's storyline, but I do understand that we both thought up the same idea -- that the Ghost Rider is a bounty hunter from Hell!
-- Now that filming is complete, how was it? Did Nicolas Cage, Peter Fonda, and Eva Mendes fill the parts as you thought they would? Was everything that you dreamt of in the script fulfilled in the shoot and done as you thought? Overall, what's your reaction now that the shoot is over?
I'm very, very pleased with what we did. All of the actors were awesome and brough something special to the party. But Nic is truly a genius. He can do things that only Nic Cage can do. He's a perfect JB.
-- I've heard that Fox studios holds back their directors, and after watching the Daredevil: Director's Cut compared to the theatrical release, I may have to agree since the DC was tenfold better. How was your experience with Sony Pictures and were there any regrets that you would need a director's cut?
Sony has been just terrific. They've obviously had a lot of success with Marvel movies in the past, and they trust the material and the fans. There won't be any need for a special Director's Edition on this one, at least one that's as radically different as the DD DC was.
-- I've been a fan of Nic Cage as Blaze ever since he was announced for the role several years ago, and was thinking about the legendary Johnny Blaze blonde locks. Obviously, I think the decision to go with Cage and the modern shorter brown hair looks better, but did you ever think of sticking with the blonde hair?
Sure. We tried a couple different looks. But the dark hair just looks more like Nic. The blonde hair looked too much like "Gone in 60 Seconds."
-- Will there be any scenes, such as in the Goyer script, where Ghost Rider completely unleashes Hell and just thrashes through everyone in his path? The Penance Stare and his variety of other uses with chains and Hellfire I assume will all be present, including a new weapon in the Shotgun. I'm actually a fan of this idea, and can't wait to see it being used in a "Free For All" kick butt fight!
There's plenty of ass kicking done by GR in the movie, don't worry! He truly gets to utilize all of his abilities in the movie. However, I do hold to the idea of the comic that he will not take a human life. Demons, on the other hand, are totally on the menu. And humans have to endure the Penance Stare, which is a fate worse than death.
-- Have you had any input on the upcoming video game and how closely will the game tie-in to the movie? I can only imagine playing the Ghost Rider shooting fire from his hands and fry a baddie to crsip.
The Ghost Rider game is being developed right now. I met with the team in Australia when they came to visit the set. That game is going to rule! It's a motorcycle jumping game, a quest game, a fighting game, etc. If I remember right, Mephisto captures Roxanne and Johnny/Ghost Rider has to fight through all of his demons and classic villains to get to her.
-- Would you be willing to return for a sequel, hoping there is one, and if so... what story line and villians would you choose?
Absolutely. Wouldn't you? It's the greatest sand box in the world. And on that note, as Midnight approaches (how fitting) I'm going to bed. I'll check in later with more. Thanks again for all your questions.
Take care, guys!
DUDE!!!!!!! DDUUDDEE!!!!!!!!DDDDDDUUUUUUUDDDDDEEEE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! how awsome is that!!!!!!!MSJ you rock!!!!! Finally saw DD DC and it was awsome. And just yesterday i was asking Marvel and Flamehead if you REALLY posted here...Damn ironic that everyone was hoping youd pop in soon and...THERE YOU ARE!!!! ROCK ON!!! Just one request.....YOU GOTTA KEEP AC/DC IN THE FINAL MIX!!! either a revamed version of a classic(only redone by AC/DC themselves)or a new AC/DC song.... they just oooze GHOST RIDER... what do ya think???
Man, the man himself take some time to talk to us, the fans, the followers.
It´s so cool, very respectful.
I had my doubts on him, have to admit.
But last night i finally watch DD-Director´s Cut.
It´s a total diferent movie, no kidding.
Fox changed so much the final version who hit the theaters and turns the movie something rushed, bad edited and confused.
DD-DC is a great movie! Even deserves a R-rated.
It´s dark, climatic, fantastic fights and a very well written script.
Now my faith is on him. He´s our man. He have respect for the Spirit of Vengeance.
Have respect for us.
And even a teaser of his movie make me cry.
That´s enough for me.
All the luck, MSJ.
thanks again Mark. i know its a pain in the [email protected]# to type all of that but its greatly appreciated!
although the personality isnt the outright evil sob Zarathos (or at least not yet) but its great to hear that you will be dealing w/ the story as a variant on Jekyll and Hyde....which the comic certainly was. "GR doesnt give a damn about anybody"...thats what i want to hear
Blackheart sounds promising....hope you are able to get most of his comic book appearance in there. its just too cool not to use...
keep at it Mark
Mark, thanks once again for taking the time to answer our questions. You don't have to, but you do. Nuff said.
How cool does that jail cell bit sound? What a great idea. Can't wait to see it.
And I really like the idea of Johnny trying to gain control of what's inside him. Reminds me of Robocop, one of my all time favourites, which starts out with the machine imprisoning the man, but his humanity manages to win out in the end.
My excitement and confidence about the film just reached a new peak!!
*shakes on the floor with foam at the mouth*
OMG i've just pictured the jail scene in my mind!!!
Keep up the good work, MSJ!
MM, it definatly would be cool if he's visited the page...
Man, I've been here for an hour this morning and I'm only getting to this thread now! Why didn't anyone tell me our favorite director dropped by. Sheesh. This is so awesome. I really love everything that I'm hearing.
I especially like the personality of Ghost Rider. He sounds perfect and much like the Ghost Rider I love most. "All he cares about is hunting". All he wants is vengeance... and that's what I want to see.
I think, I'm going to take the time and separate these comments into their respective threads.
Mark, thanks a billion for takin' the time to once again speak with us. You're soon going to take "The Man" nickname away from Stan Lee. Mark "The Man" Steven Johnson. Umm... not quite the same ring, but is true none the less.
Okay... I seperated the info to the different threads for maximum conversing. Just wanted to make sure all this fantastic info wasn't lost, ya know? Some of it is only here though.
Did anyone contact SHH about this yet? It should be on the front page...
can't reply.....too much awesomeness.....too early.....can't process.....
So... anyone feel a Lilith and/or Darkhold story could be the best way to knot GR, Blade and maybe even Doc Strange in?
(waitaminute, maybe this should be in a topic on the sequels board...)
yup...i sent SHH an email last night....it takes some time though for them to post it on the front page.
but thats a good idea FH about posting some of those responses in other threads. would help a big deal i think.
Excellent, if it must be used, thats what I was hoping the case would be.
Awesome really looking forward to that
Further awesome, sounds much like the GR from the comics(v1) I was hoping for.
Any doubts I've had have been pretty much put to rest by your answers. Thanks so much for dropping by, your truely about as cool as they come.