World Assuming Batman had prep time, HOW would he beat Superman?

[Super_Ludacris]

This is how Batman would beat Superman

Did I say beat, I meant get totally pwned

Here's the thing, anytime he's around kryptonite he gets weak, so whether he could see it with his x-ray vision is a moot point as soon as he's around him he would get weak and buckle to his knees


That dude is one overzealous supes fan with a selectivley forgetful memory lol

 

[The Question]

Or he could just get some Kryptonite.

Well........yeah. I was just trying to be creative.

 

[Super_Ludacris]

Let's keep it real people cause I know it irks Superman fans that Batman is better but facts are:

Kryptonite + Batman's smarts= Lois gonna need a new man

 

[Venomfan]

all the reasons people give for batman winning is only if superman is retarted, superman would just shoot his eye lasers at him from a mile away, kryptonite wont reach him from that far away, or he could just fly at him in with a fist ready, and sure when hes right next to batman hel go weak but his momentum wont stop, so he'll kill batman with the flying punch and be 100 yards away in another 0.001 seconds and be okay

 

[Infinity9999x]

Would batman win? Probably because right now he's the bat god. Should he win? F**ck no, but he probably will anyways. It also doesn't help that everybody and they're frickin GRAMA can get kryptonite.

 

[Ming]

Sure, Superman could melt Batman's head with his heat-vision from miles away. Hell, if he knew he was comming, he could do it from the balconey of his apartment while having a breakfast of eggs and toast after a hot night with Lois.

Sure, Superman could fly at Batman at mache speeds and reduce much of Batman's body to protoplasm. If he really wanted to be cool, he could grab him while flying rediculously fast, take him to space, and then give Batman what Supe's would call a "Super-piledriver" and reduce Batman into literal paste as he slams his head against the concrete.

Hell, Superman could blow at Batman with his Super-breath and send him into some powerlines. He could get real close and blow so hard that Batman's face would split in two and peel off his bones like an orange peel. Then Supes would super-laugh, have a super-smoke, and then fly off to have super-sex with Lois....which would be super-savage...

All of these are things he could do....if he were a power mad maniac and had lustful desires to turn us all into his super-playthings.

Last time I checked, Superman is a super-pleasent, really nice guy, who's somewhat nieve yet an overall peach.

The sole reason that Batman could beat Superman would be if Superman became Super-evil, which he isn't, or become misguided in his ways, like in indentity crisis or Dark Knight Returns. Then, Batman could beat Superman, because Superman would become a wrong that needed to be righted.

 

[SuperDaniel]

Good response, Ming. But Superman could do a lot more and not kill Batman. Super-speed, anyone? I like what he did to the leader of Elite in Action Comics #775.

 

[GreenKToo]

I say given enough time to prepare,and without superman knowing of course, he could beat supes.I mean batman is extremely smart, he could find a weakness, and make a plan that would work ,but bats would not kill superman,and once supes recovers,batman better be living in a lead box.

 

[Andy C.]

What I always love about these sort of arguments is how, when people start talking about one of the heroes' psychology (i.e. Superman has a line that he doesn't cross but Batman can), they ignore the psychology of the other. Sure, Batman is rather morally ambiguous when it comes to his methods, but there are lines he doesn't cross as well.

He's not going to deliberately put civilians in harm's way (except for in Hush, but that was to get Supes to break out of Poison Ivy's control), and he's especially not going to use lethal force. If Batman still hasn't killed the Joker by now, there's no way he's going to try and kill one of his best (and at this point, only) friends--particularly since this friend is also the single most influential person on the planet. And honestly, there's no conceivable reason why Batman would want to take out Superman in the first place unless, like Ming said, Superman had just gone completely evil, in which case the 'Superman always holds back' argument doesn't work. Or if we're talking about Frank Miller's *****ebag version Superman who bears practically nothing in common with the generally accepted version.

That being said, realistically, there's absolutely no way Batman should win a fight against Superman, even with his kryptonite ring and his precious "prep time." However, since it's usually more convenient for the writers to have Batman win, such will always be the case.

 

[AmbientFire]

the one thing i've always wondered is how fast superman can react and how fast kryptonite drains his powers - and how fast kryptonite radiation moves through space. It seems to me like superman should be able to, if he is really super-sensitive indeed, knee-jerk spasm himself out of a given location before he is too adversely affected by kryptonite. But kryptonite will always be kryptonite, so there's no way around that of course.
As for the hyper-sonics - has it been stated that superman's super-hearing means that he is not super-resistent to hypersonics? That is, the fact that he can pick up hyper/ultrasonic frequencies - does that automatically mean he cannot resist their effects? (honest question)

 

[AmbientFire]

Another question - has Superman ever been afforded "Prep time"?

 

[Andy C.]

the one thing i've always wondered is how fast superman can react and how fast kryptonite drains his powers - and how fast kryptonite radiation moves through space. It seems to me like superman should be able to, if he is really super-sensitive indeed, knee-jerk spasm himself out of a given location before he is too adversely affected by kryptonite. But kryptonite will always be kryptonite, so there's no way around that of course.
As for the hyper-sonics - has it been stated that superman's super-hearing means that he is not super-resistent to hypersonics? That is, the fact that he can pick up hyper/ultrasonic frequencies - does that automatically mean he cannot resist their effects? (honest question)

The effectiveness of kryptonite varies from writer to writer. Sometimes it's practically instant death, sometimes he can still keep fighting for a good while. Sometimes he can be punched in the face or shot in the chest with a shard of it and he'll still be alive, and sometimes he can't go a city block near it without almost passing out. I guess an in-universe way of explaining it would be different isotopes having varying effectiveness, but really it only works as well as the writer wants it to.

Hyper-sonics, on the other hand, have been used a good number of time to momentarily stun Superman. You won't be able to take him out with them, but you can slow him down.

 

[Andy C.]

Another question - has Superman ever been afforded "Prep time"?

To answer your question with another question: does Superman ever need prep time?

 

[AmbientFire]

well, the fact that Batman can beat him with this fabled prep time suggests two things to me:

1. When drawing up "how to beat Superman" plans, Superman's awareness of his own weaknesses is under-estimated (why would Superman not plan for the possibility of his enemies having kryptonite or technology, such as hypersonics or good ol' missiles, that can harm him?
2. Superman is uncabable of imagining that somebody can beat him even though he has been harmed, even killed, before - aka, superman is at least mildly ******ed. But if he isn't - why on earth wouldn't he have plans for situations that include nukes and kryptonite?

Superman needs preptime because he isn't the most powerful character on earth, we all know that title belongs to Batman w/ prep time. Now IF the writers gave him prep time too we'd be in business.

 

[CLARKY]

This is a calm response to that ridiculous thread where absolutely nothing was discussed or put up for debate.

Personally, I think too many people are quick to say Batman would beat Superman in a one on one fight. Whether it's popularity, the fact he's a smart mother f**cker, or whatever else, I don't know. But I want to find out.

This thread is open to anyone who would like to share their view of WHAT WOULD OCCUR in a fight between Supes and Bats. I bet we could come up with something ten times better than Miller's fight or that garbage Jeph Loeb spewed out.

Please don't come in here and start sh**

Not-again.

 

[Spare-Flair]

Or How About This One? Would Batman Defeat Doomsday

Batman would invent a time machine and send Doomsday to the end of time. Or just telephone Flash to use his treadmill thing.

 

[ReTrO JuNkIe 42]

How bout even though Superman was raised on earth, his home planet was how many years ahead of earth. So he should at least have more intelligence then people give him credit for.

 

[trustyside-kick]

Deep down Supes would win if really wants to...but he always hold himself back and Batman doesn't. That's why most of the time Batman wins.

You got a good point there...Clark is a boyscout, Bruce isn't. Like Bruce said in Hush "Deep down Clark's a good person. Deep down I'm not."...something like that. =P

 

[user123456789]

You got a good point there...Clark is a boyscout, Bruce isn't. Like Bruce said in Hush "Deep down Clark's a good person. Deep down I'm not."...something like that. =P

 

[Junfan]

This is how Batman would beat Superman

Did I say beat, I meant get totally pwned

That looks about right

 

[trustyside-kick]

Haha. I love Bats more than Supes but that picture/comic strip is just awesome.