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Since we're giving our "pecking orders", here's how I'd do it, focusing mainly on significance to the team's history, with a bit of my own bias thrown in. And there are a bunch of them, cuz why not?

Cap/Thor/IM triumvirate
Wasp and Pym
Scarlet Witch
Hawkeye
Vision
Black Widow
Black Panther
Quicksilver
Ms Marvel
Hercules
Luke Cage
Wonder Man
She Hulk
Black Knight
Spider-Man
Photon
Justice and Firestar
 
If that yellow loser Sentry ever shows up in this show Ima gonna be real p.o.'ed.

Who knows, maybe they can actually write him properly on the show. And maybe they could do something similar, like the JLU cartoon did with Amazo. Just send him off to space because he's so damn powerful.
 
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You don't like the sentry? Was it the retcon thing? Or was it the fact that you don't really know what his power is an it's never anything than a billion sun power, pretty vaque. I though he was good in the mopey lock your wife in her room sort of way.

I saw a cool vid with the sentry on YouTube I'll try to find it.
 
Who knows, maybe they can actually write him properly on the show. And maybe they could something similar, like the JLU cartoon did with Amazo. Just send him off to space because he's so damn powerful.


Exactly the character has potential if he is written properly. After reading about him in the New Avengers and Dark Avengers series, I wouldn't mind seeing him in this series, if they write him properly.
 
i did like him in mighty avengers and dark avengers as well.
here's the vid i was talking about.
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Ok. After seeing bored had added Captain Marvel I've updated my Master List. I also added Sersi for Corp.

Big 3
Wasp & Hank
Hawkeye
Vision & Scarlet Witch
She-Hulk
Beast & Wonder Man
Quicksilver
Hercules
Ms. Marvel
Captain Marvel (Photon)
Black Knight
Moondragon
Tigra
Sersi
Jocasta
Mockingbird
Jack of Hearts
Sentry
Triathalon

Guest starring (These characters should always remain guests and never members)

Black Panther
Black Widow
Sub-Mariner
Captain Marvel
Power-man and Iron Fist
The Hulk
Spider-man
Wolverine
Spider-Woman
Fantastic Four
Dr. Strange


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Finally got to see the new episode and it was pretty awesome. This might've been my favorite so far. I love how every episode introduces something new and gives nods to what will be coming down the road.

And I absolutely loved seeing ...
Ultron!
 
You don't like the sentry? Was it the retcon thing? Or was it the fact that you don't really know what his power is an it's never anything than a billion sun power, pretty vaque. I though he was good in the mopey lock your wife in her room sort of way.

I saw a cool vid with the sentry on YouTube I'll try to find it.

Yes.
 
We've already established that Wolverine and the X-men and Avengers are canon.

Going by Hulk/Banner, mutants, and the MRD. Wolverine was already in Avengers as well. Were the X-men not already referenced in the newspaper?
 
We've already established that Wolverine and the X-men and Avengers are canon.

Going by Hulk/Banner, mutants, and the MRD. Wolverine was already in Avengers as well. Were the X-men not already referenced in the newspaper?

I think I recall Xavier's school getting a mention.
 
One of the newspapers claimed that the X-Mansion existed, and thus the X-Men (although they were still a sort of "urban legend" to the mainstream media - "school of mutants?" or words to that effect was a headline). So in the world of A:EMH, the X-Men do exist (as well as the Fantastic Four). Logan, as James Howlett, was one of Jack Fury's Howling Commandoes back in WWII and fought in the same battle as Cap & Bucky. But we don't know for sure if W&TXM shares the same continuity as A:EMH. Just because the X-Men exist in the same world as A:EMH isn't enough. I mean, according to those newspapers, Man-Thing, Punisher, and Ghost Rider (I believe) also exist on this world. The MRD, or "MARTIES", also exist (they were mentioned once or twice), but again, until there is harder evidence, I wouldn't be expected Cyclops to show up with his gray trench-coat quite yet.

(In W&TXM, only the Hulk appeared, and he battled Wolverine. Nick Fury also existed but he looked quite a bit different in terms of character design. Bobby Drake played an IRON MAN video game on a TV once. In fact the only definite link is during the "BREAKOUT", the Wendigo looked exactly like it did in the Hulk episode of W&TXM, and in that episode, Nick Fury and SHIELD had been experimenting to create their own metahumans and basically created more Wendigo.)

And no, Colossus did not appear in the show much. He was in the pilot episode for a few minutes, and Mystique took his form in episode 8, but aside for that, nada. He was the sole member of the core team introduced in the pilot who did not return in Season One. No one seemed to miss him, but then again, the X-Men seemed to get over missing members real quick in that show. Once Warren became Archangel, it only took half an episode for the rest of the X-Men to abandon trying to "free" him and just treat him like any other adversary. When Cyclops refused to believe that Jean was dead and could have been alive somewhere (as Xavier turned out to be), he was mostly treated like a whiner and a psychopath. When Cyclops was later the only X-Man who balked at the idea of destroying Phoenix, Xavier literally dismissed him in a psychic conference call. Not even Wolverine seemed to miss Jean much, which to me seemed a bit out of character.

I wouldn't call W&TXM "Chris Yost's baby". He wrote for the series but he was not the story editor for that show. Craig Kyle and Josh Fine had more to do with the show overall than Yost did, at least in the debut season. Kyle is now writing for film and that leaves Fine here. Yost probably had more control over "FANTASTIC FOUR: WGH" where he seemed to share duties with Kyle than on W&TXM.

If W&TXM does share the exact continuity as A:EMH, than it would at least make it easier to insert Scarlet Witch at some point. Quicksilver was still very much a villain by the end of the series. But for all we know, the X-Men who exist in A:EMH's world are an earlier roster, or all this may take place before the team disassembled for a year.

It's a few pages ago, but I may as well comment on it now. I greatly enjoyed "X-MEN EVOLUTION". It helped that it came one as I was just entering college and just getting into comics again as a weekly habit. Sure, there are a lot of funky things wrong with that world if you're a stickler for making cartoons strict adaptations of the comics. I accepted the differences because it was coming out at the same time as ULTIMATE was still new, and the 90's X-MEN series was already based heavily on the then-current comics. I didn't mind the idea that Ororo and Logan were instructors with Xavier while virtually everyone else was a teenager (aside for Hank McCoy, who rejected X-Men stuff until he couldn't hide his mutation anymore). I thought the show was very well written, especially in terms of the characters. Some of the plots of the week or the threats they faced were sometimes mundane, but I thought the characterization was strong. However, when things did get intense, it was a show to behold. I liked the designs for the most part and I also liked how Wolverine still was the adult who got the most focus (he got at least 1-2 episodes every season, something neither Xavier or Storm got), he didn't completely hog the show. If anything, the amount of times he got stuffed in a fight was borderline annoying, that's how little he hogged. He lost virtually every fight he was in, just because he could heal, he was the one who could survive massive damage. The show had the best versions of Cyclops and Rogue, at least in my opinion.

Cyclops was pretty much what you'd expect of him, only without being a dip****. He was more comfortable in the Danger Room or in an X-Men mission than in a social life, but he wasn't perfect and still made mistakes (and admitted he did so at times). He was usually Xavier's "teachers pet", but he wasn't so rigid that he never told a joke, never cranked the radio too loud or never got lazy. Even Jean wasn't so bad in Evolution; still a "good girl" as one would expect, but with a little more assertiveness, more of a big woman on campus. EVOLUTION was actually the show that got me to like Cyclops as a character.

As for Rogue, while I liked the version from the 90's, I never quite understood why she was such a flirt while in the end she could never touch anyone. It made her come off as a tease. Plus, her "actual" mutant powers usually were second fiddle to her absorbed Ms. Marvel powers. In the 90's show they went with that origin, but it was awkward. Ms. Marvel shows up for that episode flashback and for that plot, and never again. It's two seasons in before you even learn those weren't Rogue's natural powers, if you were unaware. Aside for Captain America, no other superheroes showed up beyond a blink and miss cameo in the 90's series (Spider-Man and Black Panther had those). It made sense to me that the Rogue in Evolution was more introverted. It would have been too awkward to do the Ms. Marvel origin and to be honest, Rogue was THE most powerful character in EVOLUTION anyway. No one could resist her touch, not even Magneto. She could gain multiple abilities at once and even was the lone figure responsible for saving the day in the series finale. They did homage the 90's era Rogue, as there were times she gained the ability to fly, or have super-strength, depending on who she touched.

In X-MEN EVOLUTION, the X-Men rarely were attacked with "power dampening technology". In fact off the top of my head I can't think of any one time their powers were shut off with a gizmo. The only time that came close to happening was when Leech was introduced, and he could shut off all power within a radius, including mutant powers. Beast wasn't about to experiment on a kid (who in Evolution actually did have a caring mother) to benefit Rogue, and Rogue couldn't exactly ask a ten year old kid to always be about nine feet from her so she could mack on people.

X-MEN EVOLUTION remains the longest lasting X-Men cartoon of the 21st century (and at 52 episodes, is one of Marvel's longest lasting shows period) and still remains popular online. I certainly enjoyed the hell out of it.

As for A:EMH, I am sure we will get Vision soon, but we need to get Ultron first, and they're building him up. Have patience. The last Avengers cartoon started out with Vision in episode 1 and it didn't do any favors. :p
 
This series is doing an absolute wonderful job in showcasing the Avengers as well as other heroes from the Marvel universe.
 
I wouldn't call W&TXM "Chris Yost's baby". He wrote for the series but he was not the story editor for that show. Craig Kyle and Josh Fine had more to do with the show overall than Yost did, at least in the debut season. Kyle is now writing for film and that leaves Fine here. Yost probably had more control over "FANTASTIC FOUR: WGH" where he seemed to share duties with Kyle than on W&TXM.

Judging from the commentaries, Chris was always available for Greg Johnson and Craig Kyle to bounce ideas off of as sort of a consultant.

I'm a WATX fan (and a fan of the two other series) so if the X-Men make it into this show, I wouldn't mind them using most of the same costume designs and voice actors but I wouldn't want it to share any continuity at all. WATX should remain as it's own complete thing, just like X-Men Evolution, Iron Man Armored Adventures or Super Hero Squad.
 
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This series is doing an absolute wonderful job in showcasing the Avengers as well as other heroes from the Marvel universe.

Agreed. :up:

Judging from the commentaries, Chris was always available for Greg Johnson and Craig Kyle to bounce ideas off of as sort of a consultant.

I'm a WATX fan (and a fan of the two other series) so if the X-Men make it into this show, I wouldn't mind them using most of the same costume designs and voice actors but I wouldn't want it to share any continuity at all. WATX should remain as it's own complete thing, just like X-Men Evolution, Iron Man Armored Adventures or Super Hero Squad.

I haven't listened to any commentaries. Still, it seemed that while Yost was always there to consult, Johnson, Kyle, and Fine did more of the world-building on that show, but I'll take your word for it.

Marvel fans have wanted their own version of a "Timmverse" since JLU debuted. But linking all the shows together isn't something that is more useful than any other exercise without good writing anyway.

A great deal of the voice actors from W&TXM are doing work on A:EMH so such a crossover would hardly be out of the question. It isn't something that's a deal breaker for me, though. This is the first Avengers TV show of the decade, I don't mind keeping some of the guest appearances to a minimum at the start. It was cool to see the FF, but they had their own show in 2006. The X-Men had their own show in 2008-2009 AND will be getting an anime too. If you want to see every Marvel hero team up with each other, well, apparently MARVEL SUPER HERO SQUAD counts (I'm told that every time I dismiss it). I certainly don't mind focusing on the Avengers cast for now.

Of course, a global invasion by Kang is as good an excuse as any for a lot of those "blink and miss" cameos that encourage re-watches. :D
 
Damn, I actually meant the anime part. Forgot to highlight that.
 
Damn, I actually meant the anime part. Forgot to highlight that.

Marvel and MadHouse partnered for 4 anime series: Iron Man, Wolverine, X-Men and Blade.

Iron Man finished airing in Japan, Wolverine just started and the other two haven't begun yet.

None have reached US soil as yet.
 
But the 1st season of Iron Man as well as the 1st episode of Wolverine can be seen online already.
 
Dread, WE DO KNOW THAT IT IS IN THE SAME CONTINUITY!

Chris Yost already settled this for us.
 
I really hope this show doesn't share continuity with Wolverine and the X-Men. I don't want see that version of Cyclops ever again.


Edit: If Yost confirmed it than that is pretty much my only gripe with this show. Besides Cap's boring fighting style.
 
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