The Dark Knight Rises Bane

[NinjaTurtleFan]

If Bane does come in they better not have it where the fighting is choppy and the camera is too mcuh zoomed in on the actors and not on the hand-to-hand combat. That's what has pissed me off the most about Nolan's Batman. He got it better in "TDK" but I want to see like Jason Bourne or James Bond Daniel Craig-style fights. If Bane comes in it has to be brutal, barbaric, and stuff that'll make you wince or cower.

 

[stej247]

I posted this in a different thread a couple weeks ago, but it's more relavent to this topic.



Basic Plot - With the cops and the mob (most likely) hunting Batman, it's not that hard to imagine that the GPD and the mob could possibly work together to take him in. Many people in the GPD now believe that Batman killed several of their fellow cops, so it's not hard too assume they would break the rules for revenge. Unfortunately for them, this IS Batman we are talking about, the same guy who took down a force of nature called the Joker that neither the police or the mob could control. Basically, they need help. They need get somebody of equal skill, intelligence, detective savy, and personal drive as Bruce Wayne. Enter...

Bane: Hear me out. Forget about the venom, and forget about "Knightfall." DEFNINATELY forget about Batman & Robin. Bane is simply an assasin, with a world-class reputation for those people, like the mob, who would need an assasin for hire. He has olympic level atheletic ability that is enhanced with your everyday steroids. He is also brilliant. Smarter than Bruce even. Think of an un-insane Joker, with an IQ of 300. He is hired by the mob and, off the books of course, the police to remove Batman. Gordon gives Batman the heads up, and Bruce/Alfred/Fox do their research on Bane. Bruce realizes that if anyone were capable of finding him and killing him, Bane is the man that could do it. However, this IS a Christopher Nolan movie (I hope!), and there must be twists...

Un-known to Bruce, the mob, and police, however, is Bane's affiliation with of The League of Shadows. In particular, the daughter of Bruce's mentor, Talia al Ghul. In my opinion, a romantic relationship by itself would not be sufficient enough to tie Bane with Talia and TLoS. But, what if Bane was Ra's' first student/"heir apparent", just prior to Bruce? He could have gone through superior training than what Bruce had gone through. He could have also failed Ra's in a similar way that Bruce had. Say, for instance, that Bane was too good of a student for Ra's to handle. Bane could have tried, and failed, to kill Ra's and take control of the League from him. Upon failing, he manages to escape and takes up a new identity, while still being tied romantically with Talia.

With Ra's and much of TLoS now dead at the hands of Ra's "true" heir, Bruce/Batman, a situation is created with TLoS and Bane very similar to that seen with the mob and the Joker in TDK. Talia, the interm leader of TLoS, wants to avenge her father and finish the job he started. Bane learns this, and manipulates Talia into thinking that wants to help her. His true motives, however, are to remove Talia and take control of TLoS and, of course, to break the man that became Bane's replacement to Ra's: Bruce/Batman.

 

[Superboy-Prime]

I posted this in a different thread a couple weeks ago, but it's more relavent to this topic.



Basic Plot - With the cops and the mob (most likely) hunting Batman, it's not that hard to imagine that the GPD and the mob could possibly work together to take him in. Many people in the GPD now believe that Batman killed several of their fellow cops, so it's not hard too assume they would break the rules for revenge. Unfortunately for them, this IS Batman we are talking about, the same guy who took down a force of nature called the Joker that neither the police or the mob could control. Basically, they need help. They need get somebody of equal skill, intelligence, detective savy, and personal drive as Bruce Wayne. Enter...

Bane: Hear me out. Forget about the venom, and forget about "Knightfall." DEFNINATELY forget about Batman & Robin. Bane is simply an assasin, with a world-class reputation for those people, like the mob, who would need an assasin for hire. He has olympic level atheletic ability that is enhanced with your everyday steroids. He is also brilliant. Smarter than Bruce even. Think of an un-insane Joker, with an IQ of 300. He is hired by the mob and, off the books of course, the police to remove Batman. Gordon gives Batman the heads up, and Bruce/Alfred/Fox do their research on Bane. Bruce realizes that if anyone were capable of finding him and killing him, Bane is the man that could do it. However, this IS a Christopher Nolan movie (I hope!), and there must be twists...

Un-known to Bruce, the mob, and police, however, is Bane's affiliation with of The League of Shadows. In particular, the daughter of Bruce's mentor, Talia al Ghul. In my opinion, a romantic relationship by itself would not be sufficient enough to tie Bane with Talia and TLoS. But, what if Bane was Ra's' first student/"heir apparent", just prior to Bruce? He could have gone through superior training than what Bruce had gone through. He could have also failed Ra's in a similar way that Bruce had. Say, for instance, that Bane was too good of a student for Ra's to handle. Bane could have tried, and failed, to kill Ra's and take control of the League from him. Upon failing, he manages to escape and takes up a new identity, while still being tied romantically with Talia.

With Ra's and much of TLoS now dead at the hands of Ra's "true" heir, Bruce/Batman, a situation is created with TLoS and Bane very similar to that seen with the mob and the Joker in TDK. Talia, the interm leader of TLoS, wants to avenge her father and finish the job he started. Bane learns this, and manipulates Talia into thinking that wants to help her. His true motives, however, are to remove Talia and take control of TLoS and, of course, to break the man that became Bane's replacement to Ra's: Bruce/Batman.

why cant the "your everyday steroids" be custom made steroids called venom?

SB-P

 

[ChelseaGrin]

Little something I found on deviantart.com. Of course this couldn't happen considering Nolan clearly stated Joker won't be in the third film, but it's a good concept for Bane:

 

[Superboy-Prime]

when did nolan say joker wouldnt be back

SB-P

 

[S_H_F_4839]

I posted this in a different thread a couple weeks ago, but it's more relavent to this topic.



Basic Plot - With the cops and the mob (most likely) hunting Batman, it's not that hard to imagine that the GPD and the mob could possibly work together to take him in. Many people in the GPD now believe that Batman killed several of their fellow cops, so it's not hard too assume they would break the rules for revenge. Unfortunately for them, this IS Batman we are talking about, the same guy who took down a force of nature called the Joker that neither the police or the mob could control. Basically, they need help. They need get somebody of equal skill, intelligence, detective savy, and personal drive as Bruce Wayne. Enter...

Bane: Hear me out. Forget about the venom, and forget about "Knightfall." DEFNINATELY forget about Batman & Robin. Bane is simply an assasin, with a world-class reputation for those people, like the mob, who would need an assasin for hire. He has olympic level atheletic ability that is enhanced with your everyday steroids. He is also brilliant. Smarter than Bruce even. Think of an un-insane Joker, with an IQ of 300. He is hired by the mob and, off the books of course, the police to remove Batman. Gordon gives Batman the heads up, and Bruce/Alfred/Fox do their research on Bane. Bruce realizes that if anyone were capable of finding him and killing him, Bane is the man that could do it. However, this IS a Christopher Nolan movie (I hope!), and there must be twists...

Un-known to Bruce, the mob, and police, however, is Bane's affiliation with of The League of Shadows. In particular, the daughter of Bruce's mentor, Talia al Ghul. In my opinion, a romantic relationship by itself would not be sufficient enough to tie Bane with Talia and TLoS. But, what if Bane was Ra's' first student/"heir apparent", just prior to Bruce? He could have gone through superior training than what Bruce had gone through. He could have also failed Ra's in a similar way that Bruce had. Say, for instance, that Bane was too good of a student for Ra's to handle. Bane could have tried, and failed, to kill Ra's and take control of the League from him. Upon failing, he manages to escape and takes up a new identity, while still being tied romantically with Talia.

With Ra's and much of TLoS now dead at the hands of Ra's "true" heir, Bruce/Batman, a situation is created with TLoS and Bane very similar to that seen with the mob and the Joker in TDK. Talia, the interm leader of TLoS, wants to avenge her father and finish the job he started. Bane learns this, and manipulates Talia into thinking that wants to help her. His true motives, however, are to remove Talia and take control of TLoS and, of course, to break the man that became Bane's replacement to Ra's: Bruce/Batman.

I like this idea its similar to the one I had before tdk was announced.

My idea was more along the line of Bane was imprisioned as a child, for murdering his mothers killer and it is Ras' people that infiltrate the prison for the purpose of beginning his training and keeping an eye on him and when he is ready they arrange for his breakout and he makes the trek to Ras hideout and like you said is trained to be Ras successor. Bane is kicked out of the league the idea I had was when he tries to kill Bruce who has recently arrived at the league. Ras wants his students prepared to kill just not each other.

Bane takes a small sect of the league with him when he leaves, because he has been trying to turn the league against ras. After the events of Begins have him re-enter talias life.

 

[stej247]

I like this idea its similar to the one I had before tdk was announced.

My idea was more along the line of Bane was imprisioned as a child, for murdering his mothers killer and it is Ras' people that infiltrate the prison for the purpose of beginning his training and keeping an eye on him and when he is ready they arrange for his breakout and he makes the trek to Ras hideout and like you said is trained to be Ras successor. Bane is kicked out of the league the idea I had was when he tries to kill Bruce who has recently arrived at the league. Ras wants his students prepared to kill just not each other.

Bane takes a small sect of the league with him when he leaves, because he has been trying to turn the league against ras. After the events of Begins have him re-enter talias life.

That's more or less exactly the kind of take on it that i was thinking of too. I like how you tied in Bane's history with being imprisoned, because that' something i just sort of left behind. I think that you would definately be able to tie in the theme of "redemption" into this sort of plot, but im sort of beside myself on how to do that correctly.

 

[stej247]

why cant the "your everyday steroids" be custom made steroids called venom?

SB-P

They definately could, I just said "your everday steroids" to stress the fact that I wanted to see a very realistic bane character. Basically, I'd prefer not to see him click a switch on his wrist and then gain 100 lbs of muscle. I think it'd be cool if all that "venom" really was was a constant feed of adrenaline to his brain. It wouldn't necessarily make him bigger, but it would allow him to surpass his natural strength for a period of time. People can do some insane stuff when they're on an adrenaline rush.

 

[WarrenPeace2012]

Has anyone seen that Superman TAS episode where Bane, Riddler and Hatter teamed up? They could go that route, but personally I would like to see Ra's come back or maybe even Superman comming to bring the Dark Knight to justice

 

[elgato]

Bane seems like a good choice for BB3

 

[Golgo-13]

Little something I found on deviantart.com. Of course this couldn't happen considering Nolan clearly stated Joker won't be in the third film, but it's a good concept for Bane:

I like that pic/Bane look alot.

 

[Nirvana]

I think I'll pass on Bane for Batman 3.

 

[BatJokerFace]

That is a great picture of Bane, and the way I imagine him. As I said before, I think he's the best villain along with Black Mask (distant 2nd) and The Penguin (close 3rd) to challenge Batman after The Joker.

I don't think Venom is too far-fetched, and it's extremely necessary for Bane, and probably for the story, too.

The way I see it, The Penguin could be a key figure in the story by supplying Gotham's underworld with illegal arms and narcotics -- like Venom. Batman could also discover that The Penguin was The Joker's main supplier, and is in a big way responsible for much of the chaos in TDK.

The audience would learn Bane's origins story, unlike The Joker, but like The Joker he would appear out of nowhere, with only one purpose: to defeat Batman and rule Gotham.

Hence the third film's main question: If all Batman does is attract crazies like Bane, what good does he truly serve?

 

[knifeedgedave]

I think the Penguin should hire Bane now that there are no mobsters left.

 

[darkseid26]

yeah, i see bane as more of a second villian, the mobs answer to batman, they hire someone to take him down physicly, i think that should be bane or deadshot

 

[DoctorJones]

So you completely ignore what's great about Bane: he's got brains and brawn, just like Batman. If Bane is to appear on screen make him a major villain, otherwise what's the point.

 

[Iron_Stark]

If they use Bane they should get the big dude that played Little Chino in Dexter. The guy's 6'8"

Spoiler

 

[chimpster]

I was always in favor of Bane as the next villain. I don't know what story they could make or how it would play out exactly, but Bane is one of the villains that could totally work in the next one. Riddler I can see as well. But I think Bane would be cooler/better. Catwoman would be a good addition. One problem(out of many) I had with Batman Returns is that Catwoman was a physical match for Batman. She didn't even have the origin that involved fight training. She could just, magically, fight Batman. I don't think Catwoman should be a physical challenge for him, she should just present an interesting struggle for him.

 

[SuperKoala]

Bane is my favorite villian and would love to see him done right. It would be awesome to see christian bale actually get canned for once

 

[darkseid26]

So you completely ignore what's great about Bane: he's got brains and brawn, just like Batman. If Bane is to appear on screen make him a major villain, otherwise what's the point.

just cause i said i see bane more as a second villian, that doesn't mean he can't use his brain and brawns, i see him as a second villian because the main villian should put gotham endanger so when batman comes and saves the day they redeme him, i don't see bane doing that, (even if he is capable) i see him as a second villian.

 

[TNC9852002]

After some thinking, I definitely love the idea of Bane in the next movie.

I'd like to see Bane, Talia, Riddler, and Penguin in the next movie.

-TNC

 

[ChelseaGrin]

yeah, i see bane as more of a second villian, the mobs answer to batman, they hire someone to take him down physicly, i think that should be bane or deadshot

I don't believe they will bring back Deadshot considering he was in Batman: Gotham Knight. GK was suppose to be a bridge between Batman Begins and The Dark Knight to show Bruce getting to his darker roots. Since it's somewhat apart of Nolan's world I don't think Deadshot will be making a return.

 

[ShadowBoxing]

I love Bane, and I think he should be added, but I hate the idea that he should be "hired" by someone. To me that seems to limit his character.

To me Bane should be without an origin. We should understand very little about him. We know he's smart, we know he takes steroids, but the extents to which are left to interpretation. This is a guy not unlike the Hulk, but lacking a stark duality between his "Banner" and "Hulk" personas.

In my vision Bane was once in the army, besides that his origin is left to speculation (think Wolverine). Much like the Hulk he wishes, more or less, to be left alone, especially by those in power. So he drifts his way into the Narrows, causing very little trouble outside of sleeping with a few hookers and messing up a few local hoods. Otherwise though, he's a very quiet guy.

Bane hears of this Batman throughout his time there, and while at first he wants to avoid him (and the police), the notion of a man "stronger" than him, who strikes more fear begins to wear on his mind. Eventually the local inhabitants begin to take notice of him, seeing him as a protector against the Batman. Eventually this drives them into conflict with one another.

 

[SuperKoala]

I love Bane, and I think he should be added, but I hate the idea that he should be "hired" by someone. To me that seems to limit his character.

To me Bane should be without an origin. We should understand very little about him. We know he's smart, we know he takes steroids, but the extents to which are left to interpretation. This is a guy not unlike the Hulk, but lacking a stark duality between his "Banner" and "Hulk" personas.

In my vision Bane was once in the army, besides that his origin is left to speculation (think Wolverine). Much like the Hulk he wishes, more or less, to be left alone, especially by those in power. So he drifts his way into the Narrows, causing very little trouble outside of sleeping with a few hookers and messing up a few local hoods. Otherwise though, he's a very quiet guy.

Bane hears of this Batman throughout his time there, and while at first he wants to avoid him (and the police), the notion of a man "stronger" than him, who strikes more fear begins to wear on his mind. Eventually the local inhabitants begin to take notice of him, seeing him as a protector against the Batman. Eventually this drives them into conflict with one another.

I've read some pretty wierd stuff while I've been here, but I think this one beats them all

 

[ShadowBoxing]

I've read some pretty wierd stuff while I've been here, but I think this one beats them all

Why, that's basically his comic character without the origin? Bane is not a "villain" all the time, in fact he's worked with Batman on more than a few occasions.