The Dark Knight Rises Bane

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I hope that Bane will be the other villian. He should look like this:
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I certainly hope he doesn't say crap like that if he's in it. That and "I AM KING, I AM KING!" and "I WILL BREAK YOU AGAIN, BAWTMAAAAAHN!" just undermine the supposedly massive intelligence the character is said to possess. They sound like statements made for the bad guy by an extremely small child playing with his action figures.
 
I certainly hope he doesn't say crap like that if he's in it. That and "I AM KING, I AM KING!" and "I WILL BREAK YOU AGAIN, BAWTMAAAAAHN!" just undermine the supposedly massive intelligence the character is said to possess. They sound like statements made for the bad guy by an extremely small child playing with his action figures.

:hehe::funny::lmao::lmao::lmao::lmao:

That's so true, dude.
 
I certainly hope he doesn't say crap like that if he's in it. That and "I AM KING, I AM KING!" and "I WILL BREAK YOU AGAIN, BAWTMAAAAAHN!" just undermine the supposedly massive intelligence the character is said to possess. They sound like statements made for the bad guy by an extremely small child playing with his action figures.

Bwahaha! :funny: I agree.

(Just for the record, I'm bookmarking your post. pff :funny: )

Why don't they merge Bane into Deadshot??? :word:

Heyyy.. That could work...
 
Spike, I gotta admit, your hardline stance on Deadshot is pretty baffling to me; we're just going to have to agree to disagree.

Anyways, Bane.
 
Spike, I gotta admit, your hardline stance on Deadshot is pretty baffling to me; we're just going to have to agree to disagree.

Anyways, Bane.
I don't know what was baffling about it since I've spent an embarrassing amount of time on the last page explaining why I feel the way I do, but all right.

Bane. :word:
 
Why don't they merge Bane into Deadshot??? :word:

How so?

This is going to sound far-fetched, but this is just a thought: what if Strange manipulated Bane or Deadshot (first as an Arkham or Blackgate inmate; for Floyd, perhaps a beginning of therapy with his suicidal/reckless tendencies) through strategic hypnosis so he could go after Batman, like he did with Cort in Prey? IMO, I think it needs more follow up and is sorta stupid, but I was thinking since Nolan made Joker the main reason of Harvey's transformation, why not kinda pull the same gig? I'd honestly think this would be more suitable for Deadshot in terms (say if we include the GK universe) of pulling a Clockwork Orange gone horribly wrong, and agrees to team under Strange as an alternative to the death penalty after the ties with the mob and corrupt Senator.
 
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How more functional can you make a guy, who beats people to death with his bare hands? o_O

I think he meant more fiction in suit; say combat boots, military cargo pants, elbow and knee pads, fingerless fighting gloves, and a bullet proof vest.
 
Ever since he became an assassin, Floyd Lawton kills whoever he's contracted to kill. Or did, back when he was a villain.

Does he still kill people in SUICIDE SQUAD?

As it so happens, he has, several times, been paid not to kill Batman, but someone else, because, you know, getting paid to kill someone and failing all the time starts to look suspicious. If you think the only Batman villains or the only ones who can pose a threat are the characters that try to kill Batman...I don't know what to say to that...Besides:

Batman isn't Batman to protect himself. He's Batman to protect other people. The threat of harm to himself, in his mind, should pale in comparison to the harm that can be done to others.

That Deadshot was introduced as a supervillain is NOT inconsequential in the least. It is half the reason he ended up with the SUICIDE SQUAD, where he has flourished. If we are to honor the character, that element must remain intact somewhere. Now, if they make a SUICIDE SQUAD movie, and want to show him reformed/reforming and hint at or show a villainous past, fine. But this is a Batman movie, and should he end up in this Batman movie, he will likely need to be portrayed as a villain, not an ally or a wishy washy fellow in the middle, or a member of the Suicide Squad.

Let's say Deadshot is set to appear in the next Batman movie. Cool? Okay, so how do you explain why Floyd (a man with nigh-perfect aim) never shoots Batman in the head 0.5 seconds into the fight?

Batman altered his gunsights.

Seriously.

It's faithful to the mythology.

But really...obviously, because he likes the chase. He likes the challenge. Similar to The Joker, though it's a less overtly psychological approach.

You don't think people want Deadshot to be one of the main villains or something, do you?

Despite recent rumors, I don't think that's likely to happen. And...here's a CRAZY idea.

Deadshot is a dead shot normally...but he is not, in fact, superhuman. Like Batman, he is human, and can miss when he shoots, as people sometimes do.

But how do they do it in a 2 hour movie, where events like that are naturally decompressed and reflected on? Let's say that Strange hires Floyd to kill Batman. What does Lawton say when Hugo asks him why he doesn't just shoot Bats in the face?

"I enjoy the challenge, Huges. Step off or I'll shoot YOU in the face"

(I don't Strange would/should hire Deadshot. More of a mob or League of Assassins thing, methinks).

Either Deadshot doesn't want Batman dead (immediately de-fanging him as a threat to Batman), or he actually is trying to kill Batman, but still keeps missing his shots.

It's entirely possible that angle could be used, but the audience doesn't need to know that. Or maybe Deadshot hits him...but Batman survives it through sheer pluck and moxie, and it becomes a gentleman's game, a duel of sorts.

Now if Deadshot unintentionally misses his shots, what's the difference between him and just another crook with a gun?

Because he's still amazingly cool, and he's incredibly capable.
 
The easy way around questions about how Deadshot would fail to shoot the Batman is to keep their encounters to a minimum. Maybe Lawton gets his one good shot and blows it, or is stopped by Gordon or Catwoman just as he is about to assassinate Batman. I don't see any need for too many encounters, as Deadshot should be a supporting character anyway.
 
Ever since he became an assassin, Floyd Lawton kills whoever he's contracted to kill.
Except for the times when he doesn't.
Or did, back when he was a villain.
He's still a villain. He's always been a villain.
Does he still kill people in SUICIDE SQUAD?

As it so happens, he has, several times, been paid not to kill Batman, but someone else, because, you know, getting paid to kill someone and failing all the time starts to look suspicious. If you think the only Batman villains or the only ones who can pose a threat are the characters that try to kill Batman...I don't know what to say to that...Besides:

Batman isn't Batman to protect himself. He's Batman to protect other people. The threat of harm to himself, in his mind, should pale in comparison to the harm that can be done to others.
You might have something there that could be used in a potential movie's plot while staying true to the character... but it still doesn't make him any more of a Batman villain than Deathstroke: just a hired gun without any actual feelings towards Batman or Gotham one way or the other.

That was the point that I was debating over.
That Deadshot was introduced as a supervillain is NOT inconsequential in the least.
I never said that was inconsequential. Reread my last post. What I said was inconsequential was the fact that he debuted in a Batman title. His first appearance has almost no bearing on who the character actually is.
It is half the reason he ended up with the SUICIDE SQUAD, where he has flourished. If we are to honor the character, that element must remain intact somewhere. Now, if they make a SUICIDE SQUAD movie, and want to show him reformed/reforming and hint at or show a villainous past, fine. But this is a Batman movie, and should he end up in this Batman movie, he will likely need to be portrayed as a villain, not an ally or a wishy washy fellow in the middle, or a member of the Suicide Squad.
I never said that he wasn't a villain, although I did acknowledge his occasional moments of moral ambiguity. What I repeatedly said was that he's not a Batman villain. There's a difference between just being an overall bad guy (ie: Deadshot) versus being a bad guy known for being associated with a given hero 95% of the time (ie: Lex Luthor, the Joker, etc).
Batman altered his gunsights.

Seriously.

It's faithful to the mythology.
I'm well aware of that one. Singular. Event. It's even been retconned so that Batman changed his ammo to blanks, if you want to start throwing history lessons around. Regardless, does that sound like the makings of a big fight scene deserving of being in a movie? I personally think it sounds really anticlimactic.
But really...obviously, because he likes the chase. He likes the challenge. Similar to The Joker, though it's a less overtly psychological approach.
The only occasion I've ever seen evidence of something close to this was in Strange Apparitions and the next issue he was in right after that, where he "wanted to savor his revenge" (or whatever) on Batman for sending him to prison. We later find out that he wasn't trying (and thank God, because the latter issue was very embarrassing for him). That whole "vengeance" angle to his character was dropped just as quickly as it appeared.
You don't think people want Deadshot to be one of the main villains or something, do you?
What I believe is that if the filmmakers go through the trouble of adapting Deadshot to the big screen, they should adapt him faithfully, however large his role in the story might be.

Now, an argument might be made that a movie version of him as a Bat villain would be faithful, but only faithful to those first few of his appearances before Deadshot became the character he's been since the 80's and started showing the personality he's been known for and made him as popular as he is. That's basically the stance I'm seeing with posters here, and I can't really refute that if that's how you feel (even if the vast majority of his career and character development have had nothing to do with Batman), but I think that would be like showing Movie Batman intentionally punching people into vats of acid and excusing it by saying that it's accurate to how he was when he first appeared. Sure, that's technically true, but still... Meh.
Despite recent rumors, I don't think that's likely to happen. And...here's a CRAZY idea.

Deadshot is a dead shot normally...but he is not, in fact, superhuman. Like Batman, he is human, and can miss when he shoots, as people sometimes do.
You're not against defeating his entire purpose as a character? If that's the case, then this whole discussion is moot. Like Green Arrow, Hawkeye or Bullseye, Deadshot's gimmick hinges on the idea that he has inhumanly good aim. Is that realistic? No, but they're comic book characters. Suspension of disbelief comes with the territory. The impossible aim is Deadshot's schtick. Without that, he's just a guy with a cool personality who smokes a lot.

Now, I've said more than my piece on this matter and have been repeating myself a lot, despite trying to give up this debate after Paste Pot Pete did. We obviously have very different views on Deadshot's character along with what is and isn't faithful to him, but nevertheless, this is a Bane thread. If you want to continue the debate, feel free to take it to PMs with me.
 
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Black Mask and Deadshot to appear in 'The Dark Knight Rises'? [UPDATE]

Posted by Chris on January 13, 2011

Today The Daily Blam posted exclusive news regarding the villains in The Dark Knight Rises. According to their source, Black Mask and Deadshot will be facing off against The Dark Knight in Christopher Nolan’s final Batman movie. My first reaction was that they were reporting on the “leaked script” that made its way online last week, however there may be more to it then that. In the past hour The Daily Blam has pulled their original article at the request of the studio. It’s worth noting that The Daily Blam Editor-in-Chief, Pietro Filipponi has had reliable sources within Warner Bros. in the past. They mention this is all still a rumor until it’s confirmed by the studio, and I’d take it with a grain of salt at this point. However it’s very interesting that they were asked to remove the information. We’ll have to wait and see how this pans out. Let me know what you guys think in the comments!

Update: I found The Daily Blam’s original post and have included it after the break. As suspected, it sounds too similar to that “leaked script” from last week. Though Pietro Filipponi has had good scoops in the past, I wouldn’t look too much into this report unless we get official confirmation.

Update #2: I did some digging and I’m told this is BS. Black Mask and Deadshot may very well be characters we’ll see in The Dark Knight Rises, but this report, along with the plot summary below, is just not real. I’m going to hold off posting rumors like this from now on, official news is just around the corner!

DEADSHOT & BLACK MASK REVEALED AS THE VILLAINS IN THE DARK KNIGHT RISES

BY PIETRO FILIPPONI

PUBLISHED: JANUARY 13, 2011 – 7:19AM

Exclusive: According to a source at the studio, the Dark Knight will face off against the both expert assassin and mob boss in Christopher Nolan’s final Batman film.

The Dark Knight Rises stars Christian Bale, Tom Hardy, Morgan Freeman, Gary Oldman and Micheal Caine. The film is set to start production early next year, with a theatrical release date of July 20th, 2012. Several days ago, Collider released information regarding tentative casting of Eva Green and Naomi Watts as the characters Talia al Ghul and Vicki Vale, respectively. They also went into detail about several of Batman’s upgraded gadgets for use in the film. According to our source, those reports are accurate; and new light has been cast on another major plot point: the film’s villains. Though he does warn that things may change between now and the production start date, as of this week the basic storyline is this:

The story continues with the assassin Deadshot (Floyd Lawton) being broken out of prison by Russian Agents and sent to northern Europe where he is then smuggled into America as he has been hired by a clandestine organization from the Gotham underground; “The Society”.

Batman has become more of a “myth” in Gotham as the criminal underworld has dissipated. Gotham is safer with arrests 30% down so The Dark Knight keeps a very low profile. Batman also has a new aerial vehicle, “The Wraith”. A modified military prototype aircraft/drone with a 40 foot wing span. The Batmobile is now equipped with an E.M.P device.

Wayne Manor is rebuilt but Wayne Enterprises is struggling with a lawsuit filed by a rival corporation, Daggett industries and Wayne Enterprises are almost brought to the ground, so much so that Lucius Fox feels he must turn against the irresponsible Bruce Wayne to save the company. A new Batcave has been constructed beneath the re-constructed Manor. Deadshot meets the organisation “The Society” headed by The Black Mask who wears an ebony skull. Black Mask is also in alliance with Roland Daggett, Ceo of Daggett Industries.

(Eva Green, Naomi Watts, Keira Knightley, Anne Hathaway, Jessica Biel, Kate Mara, Charlotte Riley, and Gemma Arterton are testing to fill two female roles, the villain Talia, daughter of Ra’s Al Ghul and a love interest reporter Vicky Vale.

SOURCE: The Daily Blam

http://batman-news.com/2011/01/13/black-mask-and-deadshot-to-appear-in-the-dark-knight-rises/
 
If hes in it, I just really really really hope they keep the mask.. Other aspects can be changed or taken away but the mask is what makes him instantly recognizable as Bane
 
Bane would be a good villian for a batman film if used correctly, most people like to think of bane as a slow witted steriod pumping moron that we saw in that saturday night live skit of a movie schumacher directed called Batman and Robin. I'm sure if Nolan was to go with Bane as the villian for TDKR, it would erase those horrible memories of him in Batman and Robin
 
Bane(from the early comics) along with dead shot would be awesome.

No better is there a time to hunt down Bruce Wayne than when the world thinks batman is a menace. Do it.
 
I'm not opposed to seeing Bane done right in a Batman movie, I'm just hoping for someone else.
 
Bane and Hugo Strange would be an incredible one-two punch.
 
Bane and Hugo Strange would be an incredible one-two punch.

Yes, yes. It would make my day like my sig! :yay:

I would be surprised if we get Bane...but I would love it. I can see Nolan instantly dismissing him as being too unrealistic...at least from the images in the comics. Strange only worries me because he is similar in a lot of respects to what they did with Crane in BB. Maybe Nolan would go in a different direction with Strange though.
 
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