The Dark Knight Rises Bane

[B.A. Baracus]

"Hey mum look at me, I'm going to blow up a hospital, slash people's mouths open with a knife, and poison your liquor because I don't like your stinkin rules."

*mother runs away screaming as child chases her with kitchen knife*

"C'mon mom, let's put a smile on that face"

You really can't see the difference between a man blowing up a hospital and getting a Syringe and injecting it into his arm, in what essentially is a family movie? tell me in the Hospital explosion how many people did you see graphically die? actually throughout the whole movie? the censorship of a film where a man injects himself will bump it up to a 15 (in the UK atleast) Warners wont allow that. You're being incredibly naive if you think they will.

 

[terry78]

Haha, and I won't front, I have actually heard about a kid from one of my little cousins that tried to do the "pencil trick" on someone.

 

[PreK]

I was going to go on a rant, but looks like you guys have covered the topic of violence and influence on children.

Following the havoc Joker caused and some of the ruthless acts he committed, there is very little they could do to top that. Any drug use is child's play in comparison.

 

[B.A. Baracus]

The Batman series is PG-13. A character who injects himself in the movie will not cause it to get a R rating. I know this because Rocky IV had a similar scene almost 25 years ago.

Exactly. Censorship has changed a heck of alot in that time.

There is a difference. Believe it or not, it's the "smaller" dangerous acts that censors go after. A kid can't easily replicate blowing up a hospital. But sticking a syringe in his arm?

It's called imitable acts.

 

[ALP]

There is a difference. Believe it or not, it's the "smaller" dangerous acts that censors go after. A kid can't easily replicate blowing up a hospital. But sticking a syringe in his arm?

It's called imitable acts.

Or that kid in first grade that you don't like...just stab him in the neck with your pencil...and I'd say sharp pencils are even easier to come by than a syringe with illegal juice in it

 

[B.A. Baracus]

Or that kid in first grade that you don't like...just stab him in the neck with your pencil...and I'd say sharp pencils are even easier to come by than a syringe with illegal juice in it

 

[raybia]

There is a difference. Believe it or not, it's the "smaller" dangerous acts that censors go after. A kid can't easily replicate blowing up a hospital. But sticking a syringe in his arm?

It's called imitable acts.

Yeah, JJ Abrams Star Trek had at least 4 imitable acts in it.

 

[raybia]

Exactly. Censorship has changed a heck of alot in that time.

You are right. Rocky IV was rated PG as there was no PG-13 then.

 

[Paste Pot Pete]

Nolan should've cast Jared Leto if he wanted to remake Requiem for a Dream.

 

[the Wankstar]

why wouldnt he just use one of those auto injectors like Gordon used against the fear toxin in Begins

 

[Paste Pot Pete]

why wouldnt he just use one of those auto injectors like Gordon used against the fear toxin in Begins

Not gritty enough.

 

[the Wankstar]

ehh if he did it like an adrenaline shot into his chest

 

[raybia]

You really can't see the difference between a man blowing up a hospital and getting a Syringe and injecting it into his arm, in what essentially is a family movie? tell me in the Hospital explosion how many people did you see graphically die? actually throughout the whole movie? the censorship of a film where a man injects himself will bump it up to a 15 (in the UK atleast) Warners wont allow that. You're being incredibly naive if you think they will.

Its not about what WB will allow, it what the MPAA will. If WB and Nolan want a PG-13 rating then here are the rules:


Drugs and Violence

Prior to 1984, a film that depicted any drug use at all was given an R rating.

Since the PG-13 rating was adopted, drug use featured in a motion picture requires at least a PG-13 rating. Drug abuse calls for an R rating.

Additionally, a PG-13 movie may have some violence, as long as the violence is neither "persistent" nor "realistic and extreme."

 

[ALP]

And least we not forget the headlines when a teenager burned down his school dressed as Heath's Joker (in regard to Paste Pot saying a kid cant replicate blowing up a building).

http://www.independent.ie/national-...ol-in-revenge-on-hypocrite-staff-2273186.html
http://io9.com/5598096/teen-dressed-as-the-joker-burns-down-his-high-school-in-ireland

 

[Paste Pot Pete]

ehh if he did it like an adrenaline shot into his chest

Was just kidding, friend. I think that's a fine idea, much better than a syringe.

I still see no reason not to use the tubes.

 

[PreK]

Nolan should've cast Jared Leto if he wanted to remake Requiem for a Dream.

Because he's a druggie? Are we all not on the same page that Bane was exactly that when he got on Venom? I'm not understanding why the method of application is so highly debated here. Whichever is chosen, it won't change that he's addicted to a drug. You can try to mask that by making it more kid-friendly and use a dial with big ON and OFF labels -- doesn't change anything.

No one is denying the mature nature of drugs. But serial killing is just as serious, and I bet no one here would be in favor of watering down Joker because of "the kids".

 

[TX85]

why wouldnt he just use one of those auto injectors like Gordon used against the fear toxin in Begins

True,But I doubt Nolan would want to use the same method again or something.

 

[raybia]

why wouldnt he just use one of those auto injectors like Gordon used against the fear toxin in Begins

If Nolan want his Bane to use Vemon in this movie, there is nothing stopping him for doing so. He could easily establish this without losing the PG-13 rating.

 

[raybia]

Because he's a druggie? Are we all not on the same page that Bane was exactly that when he got on Venom? I'm not understanding why the method of application is so highly debated here. Whichever is chosen, it won't change that he's addicted to a drug. You can try to mask that by making it more kid-friendly and use a dial with big ON and OFF labels -- doesn't change anything.

No one is denying the mature nature of drugs. But serial killing is just as serious, and I bet no one here would be in favor of watering down Joker because of "the kids".

Winner

 

[the Wankstar]

wonder if his venom will end up being some sort of variation on the fear toxin from Begins too. never underestimate the power of Liams Blue Flowers

 

[RustyCage]

Winner

Seconded.

 

[Bruce Malone]

They can easily depict bane injecting himself but with showing the actual action to the side of the camera ala joker and bishop i believe when he went to carve his face.

 

[Paste Pot Pete]

Because he's a druggie? Are we all not on the same page that Bane was exactly that when he got on Venom? I'm not understanding why the method of application is so highly debated here. Whichever is chosen, it won't change that he's addicted to a drug. You can try to mask that by making it more kid-friendly and use a dial with big ON and OFF labels -- doesn't change anything.

No one is denying the mature nature of drugs. But serial killing is just as serious, and I bet no one here would be in favor of watering down Joker because of "the kids".

Dude, I'm just taking the piss.

Bane could eat a baby onscreen for all I care. I don't have any kids.

I entered the convo as a devil's advocate, explaining what I have come to know of censorship and what is and isn't deemed acceptable. Those aren't MY standards. I couldn't give a crap.

I happen to think the syringe is a ******ed idea for completely unrelated reasons, not the least of which is that I see no reason to deviate from the method used in the comics, and the fact that he often juices up mid-battle, so it'd be quite inconvenient to stop & shoot up a needle.

 

[TX85]

maybe Nolan will surprise us by using venon&tubes after all!?!?.....I just think he would make them thinner and less visible though(maybe hidden under armor or shirt or something).

 

[ALP]

Dude, I'm just taking the piss.

Bane could eat a baby onscreen for all I care. I don't have any kids.

I entered the convo as a devil's advocate, explaining what I have come to know of censorship and what is and isn't deemed acceptable. Those aren't MY standards. I couldn't give a crap.

I happen to think the syringe is a ******ed idea for completely unrelated reasons, not the least of which is that I see no reason to deviate from the method used in the comics, and the fact that he often juices up mid-battle, so it'd be quite inconvenient to stop & shoot up a needle.

For the most part I quite agree, I would prefer the venom used through the usual tubes. But a big consensus seems to be that if Bane has tubes, Batman could easily just cut them while fighting him. In fact, as tactical as Batman is that would be his very first move.