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Action adventure with humor, exactly. I don't think they set out to be camp and silly, just lighter compared to BR. And Batman had some dark stories with Robin in them, so I'm not sure what came first, the lightening up or Robin.
 
I honestly don't think I've ever heard anyone saying Arnold was a great Freeze or they liked Silverstone's Batgirl...or worse, they liked the silver batsuits.

Not many people would, but I from time to time, when discussing Bat-movies with people, I do come across the occasional "See, I thought Dark Knight was overrated. I actually like Batman and Robin." folk. And in their defense, they say something like "C'mon, Arnold as Freeze. That was pretty good!" to which I refrain from saying whats on my mind and sounding like a total fanboy, but say something to the extent of "Well, I thought he was pretty terrible, but that's just me." :cwink:
 
He's gonna play Hugo Strange.
I really find that hard to believe. Ignoring the emoti-war from last page, I'm going to go with the argument that Strange and Nolan's Scarecrow were too alike. If Strange would've been used at any point, it would've been Batman Begins, but we have (and for a good reason) Jonathan Crane. Even down to mindless swarms attacking Bats. That's a Hugo Strange motif, seen in The Narrows as unleashed by a combo o' Scarecrow & Ra's. So, no. It will definitely not be Hugo Strange in my opinion. Though, if I'm wrong you are welcome to take my hat.

They're only comparable on the surface level of "treats Batman like a joke."

The Adam West show had incredibly clever writing and a devilish wit. It was counterculture spoof, performed to a T by its actors. Adam West had the comic timing that most actors only dream of. Compare that to George Clooney, who just looked bored in the role. Arnold got the tone, though, and that does make his performance very fun.

One of it's biggest sins, though, is that there are long stretches of it that are simply boring. Basically whenever Arnold isn't on screen. The motorcycle race has to be one of the longest, dullest sequences in film history.
I agree! In fact, a more BRAVE & THE BOLD-esque Batman movie, directed by Joel Schumacher, would've been great. The only complain I have with Batman & Robin today is that it could've been much more fun even with all the kitsch. I only realized that the old show was a product of counter-culture and an emblem of parody only recently - and it's that what made me go back to B&R and Batman Forever and I saw all these little recurrences and allusions to the show. On one note it's sad for me because, well, it was much more fun to think that they were all ******ed. The truth is far from it, and much less humorous.

Not to be a nerd about this, but his name is Jean-Paul Valley.

Heh, I'm sorry my bad! I can't believe I made that mix-up... I KNOW it's valley damn it! I must've mixed them up with my OTHER childhood anti-hero - Triple H :P Thanks for pointing this out. No, you are not as guilty of nerdism as I am.

I love the Adam West series. And quite agreed when you said that 'time heals all wounds.'

Really, many of us look back on the Adam west film and the show and love it. We can appreciate how humorous it is. But can you imagine being a serious fan of dark Batman in the 60s? You'd probably be pretty angry with the show. That is how ppl treat B&R now. Give it another decade or so and B&R won't have as many haters just more people who view it as a ridiculous comedy. On the other hand, movies like Catwoman...

But you can imagine Halle Berry's Catwoman going toe-to-toe with Val Kilmer's Batman and we have camp glory!

Dude, the 60's Batman television show is great. People that cant appreciate that show take their love of Batman too seriously. As for Batman & Robin, I hated it at the time, but as time has passed I've come to accept it as a bad movie that is an incredibly hilarious source of entertainment. In retrospect Batman & Robin was the best thing that could have happened to Batman, because after the success of the previous Batman films chances are WB never would have approved a complete reboot if Batman & Robin hadn't tanked.

You misunderstand man, I am not dissing the old show. Or Batman & Robin. They are each their own interpretations so it fits well into Batman's history on-screen. Joel Schumacher's films were the equivalent of Bryan Singer's revisit of Superman: The Movie , albeit with a few liberties taken and, surprisingly, a lot darker than the TV show. I agree with the comment that Clooney was no West and was bored at it. If there ever would've been a third Schumacher film (yes neophytes, light thy fiery forks!), I'm almost certain that Kurt Russell would've done the role justice. After Batman: The Brave and the Bold, the Schumacher films should get at least some approval on SOME LIBERAL level among fans of Batman in general.

Correct. Jean-Paul Levisque is Triple H's real name. :funny:

:awesome: again, my bad.

Now then, let's move on from the euphoric, psychedelic 'City of Peace' that was the Gotham of the 60s and focus on something that's actually relevant to the thread: Tom Hardy.

Am I the only one who's thinking of him as The Charlatan?
 
@ ALP, I want to go on record and say that Arnold was a great Freeze for Batman & Robin. He acted like a living, breathing caricature of the character straight from Super Friends or the old New Adventures of Batman (voiced by West). He even looked the part visually (for some reason I can't post attachments from my PC, otherwise I would've added a manip here for validation). And Alicia Silverstone was hot as Batgirl, but maybe that's just my pre-adolescent hormones going overdrive talking. It was a long time ago.

But enough with the old, lets talk with the new.
 
I would be totally cool with a more swashbuckling adventure Batman ala Brave and the Bold for the next series following Nolan.

I think its important to keep things fresh. Same with the animated versions, which is why they're going back to a darker tone after Brave and the Bold concludes.
 
Kurt Russell? Was he going to be Batman in Schumacher's Batman Triumphant? I don't think I can imagine that.
 
I could easily imagine a younger Clooney successfully playing a period 1940s Batman.
 
I remember hearing about Kurt Russell. Triumphant was supposed to be a return to a darker tone, shipping Robin and Batgirl off to college and facing off against the Scarecrow.

Russell would've been good, either as a serious Batman or a lighter one.
 
Russell would have been awesome as Bruce/Batman in 1978 with Christopher Lloyd as the Joker.
 
Haha, Lloyd would have been awesome as Joker. Remember Judge Doom!

I always wanted Harrison Ford to play Batman in the 80s. He would have been Indiana Jones and Batman in '89 lol
 
My older sister loves Batman and Robin. She simply enjoys the camp. It's not uncommon -- a lot of people (even people with good taste) would rather see a silly, tongue in cheek superhero movie than a dark one that takes itself really seriously.
 
I remember hearing about Kurt Russell. Triumphant was supposed to be a return to a darker tone, shipping Robin and Batgirl off to college and facing off against the Scarecrow.

Russell would've been good, either as a serious Batman or a lighter one.

Kurt Russell would've made a great Batman back in the day.

Such a shame he hasn't been in a comic book movie...

(That Sky High movie doesn't count)
 
"Big Trouble in Little China" was a comic book movie, even if it wasn't based on a comicbook.

I think Kurt is just too ugly to play Bruce Wayne.
 
Wow, from the rest of your post, we do have the exact opposite opinions, don't we? On all 3 villains!:woot:

Didn't notice this post until just now. But yeah, it's all cool. It's nice that we have multiple interpretations of many of the Batman characters. There's something there for each of the many different fans. Most prefer Nolan's Batman but there's also an amount that prefer Burton's rendition. And I'm sure even some that like Schumacher best:oldrazz:

"Big Trouble in Little China" was a comic book movie, even if it wasn't based on a comicbook.

I think Kurt is just too ugly to play Bruce Wayne.

Looking at Kurt in the 80s, I don't think he was too ugly for Bruce. I mean, just look at Michael Keaton. Definitely not a playboy, just average looking. And Russell even has that crazy jawline you bat-fanatics always talk about.

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On a related note, Mickey Rourke would be bomb diggidy awesome for Batman in Dark Knight Returns. He looks like him and he was Marv in Miller's Sin City after all.
 
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I know who Tom Hardy will be playing. It came to me in a vision.
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Kurt Russell ugly?

I'm no expert on men's appearances, but I always thought Kurt was popular with the ladies.

Maybe it's just my mom that loves him.
 
Kurt Russell could've done well in Triumphant even if it was pure camp. Besides, in the Schumacher movies, he would pass off as a great 'older' Val Kilmer. Wow, I'm really getting obsessed over these films now!

I'm just curious about another thing though, aren't Nolanites putting on a fit that Inception is not a hidden Batman movie? Or are they over all that? I just got the DVD and it's striking how many of the Batman archetypes are present in Inception. Imagining it as a Bat-Film is a good way to watch the film for the 10th time. :) Just sayin.
 
I just figured it out. Tom Hardy will play Solomon Grundy born on Monday!
 
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