Baptism

[BillyZaned]

Alright... getting preasure from my family as of late as to WHY I haven't got my 2 year old baptised yet...

I'm an athiest.... but, I'm not hypocrtical about it, meaning I don't form some strong beleif structure out of having no beliefs....

I just see it as silly.... and don't have the time, nor am willing to take the time to find a church, or join my parents church. They want me too, and it requires going to "classes", chuch events, and SUPRISE, donating money to them... that is the only way to get my son baptized there.

I normally wouldn't care, but it's becoming an issue for basically the whole family, both sides, and i'm sick of hearing about it... and hearing about the "behind our back talk" that everyone seems to be doing... I just think that if my son "wants" to be christian, that should be his choice, not something that is pushed upon him, and done to him without his consent


Can't wait to show the family pictures of him from Halloween, he went as a little devil... lol

 

[Majic Walrus]

How's your son's mom feel about it?

 

[DarkReflections]

It should be your son's choice if he chooses to be christian, and that as his father you have the right to think that. I think if you talked to your wife about it, explaining how it should be your son's choice, she'll listen.

 

[Twin2]

Tell them he converted to Hinduism.

 

[Majic Walrus]

I think that if his mother is for it then you need to have a serious discussion about your plans and whatever you decide stick to it. If your wife doesn't really want the baptism then you need to tell her your extended family that you'll raise your son how you see fit and let that be the end of it.

 

[Addendum]

It should be your son's decision if he decides to become a christian, or if he decides to subscribe to any other religion. And that's not going to take place when he's ****ing 2.

I don't know if it's your parents or the in-laws, or if it's other nosy relatives. But just tell them to mind their own damn business or however you want to word it

 

[Franklin Richards]

Tell them that Baptism doesn't get you to Heaven... The blood of Jesus does that.

 

[chaseter]

Is this the German side? Is the Baptism in the blood of Jews?

Just tell them to let you raise your own kids Tell them as soon as he starts speaking in Latin and crawling on the walls, then you will do so

 

[Majic Walrus]

It should be your son's choice if he chooses to be christian, and that as his father you have the right to think that. I think if you talked to your wife about it, explaining how it should be your son's choice, she'll listen.

It should be your son's decision if he decides to become a christian, or if he decides to subscribe to any other religion. And that's not going to take place when he's ****ing 2.

I don't know if it's your parents or the in-laws, or if it's other nosy relatives. But just tell them to mind their own damn business or however you want to word it

This is true, however if his mother wants him to be baptized according to her religious traditions then she has every right to want that, regardless of whether or not it should be his choice.

 

[Addendum]

The son's life is his own, and the father (in this case Billy or whatever his name is offline) has every right to say "let him decide when he gets older"

 

[FrostBite]

Consult your wife. Don't mind the rest of the family. If your wife wants it, and you have no qualms about it, do it. It isn't going to stop him from choosing whatever religious belief (or lack there of) in the future. Baptizing the kid won't kill him, and heck, if the religions wrong, it won't even affect him in the least. It'll just be water on his forehead from when he's 2 and he doesn't even remember.

Your son has every right to choose his own religion, but seeing as he won't be doing that at 2 years old, if your wife and yourself decide that it is what you want for your child... you're good. If you decide it isn't right for him, then ignore your extended family.

Either way your immediate family shouldn't be pressured into a decision like this just because the family may talk behind your back. If falling into the family's desires start here, Lord knows when they may end--and trust me, you don't want that.

 

[chaseter]

Yeah and him getting baptised at 2 won't have any effect on his life the same as if he didn't. At this age, it has nothing to do with what his son wants, it is what his mother and father wants.

 

[C. Lee]

I feel that following a religion that closely is a personal choice. Let your kids attend church with you or your family members...but getting babtized is a choice that an individual needs to make for themselves.

 

[chaseter]

Getting baptised at 2 won't affect anything concerning the kid's life That is like saying making the baby wear red will turn him into a serial killer. The baby cannot say he doesn't like red. You are forcing him to wear what you want him to wear, not what he wants...because he doesn't care or know what is going on!?

If you want to baptise him, do it. If you don't, don't.

 

[ChickenScratch]

I'm an atheist but I was baptized as a kid. It really is just a ceremony to placate the ones who believe in that sort of thing. If you wife wants to do it, then do it, but if you both don't care then don't.

 

[Addendum]

Just say you "baptized" him when you gave him a bath.

 

[Metamorpho1977]

Alright... getting preasure from my family as of late as to WHY I haven't got my 2 year old baptised yet...

I'm an athiest.... but, I'm not hypocrtical about it, meaning I don't form some strong beleif structure out of having no beliefs....

I just see it as silly.... and don't have the time, nor am willing to take the time to find a church, or join my parents church. They want me too, and it requires going to "classes", chuch events, and SUPRISE, donating money to them... that is the only way to get my son baptized there.

I normally wouldn't care, but it's becoming an issue for basically the whole family, both sides, and i'm sick of hearing about it... and hearing about the "behind our back talk" that everyone seems to be doing... I just think that if my son "wants" to be christian, that should be his choice, not something that is pushed upon him, and done to him without his consent


Can't wait to show the family pictures of him from Halloween, he went as a little devil... lol

While I don't want to force my beliefs on it, I just want to show the purpose of baptism. technically speaking from a scriptural standpoint, he's not supposed to be baptized till after he becomes a Christian.Baptism is the burial and resurrection in water of a repentant believer to picture salvation by grace through the death, burial, and resurrection of Jesus.

 

[chaseter]

What about cirumcisions? I know it started as a religious thing but to me, my boys, if I have any, will be getting a circumcision and it has nothing to do with religious convictions.

 

[Metamorpho1977]

What about cirumcisions? I know it started as a religious thing but to me, my boys, if I have any, will be getting a circumcision and it has nothing to do with religious convictions.

It's not a scriptural requirement anymore. It was originally intended as a sacrificial covenant with God. When Christ, he said he was the new covenant and that circumcision wasn't required anymore. I don't know what it does physically though.

 

[Metamorpho1977]

But ultimately it is a matter of choice I believe. He should be able to choose well not the circumcision thing, but baptism yes.

 

[Majic Walrus]

The son's life is his own, and the father (in this case Billy or whatever his name is offline) has every right to say "let him decide when he gets older"

True. This I agree with you on.

However it's his parents responsibility to instill that in him or to raise him in accordance with the traditions that they see fit. While I personally see a lot "wrong" with raising your kid into a strict religious home, I cannot condemn that for other people.

 

[chaseter]

Uhhh I don't know many guys that would opt for a circumcision at 18. I have read that circumcisions may cause a slight decrease in sensation but it is better for health reasons as it makes things easier to clean and decrease infection. Plus, uncircumcised penises look weird. I am glad I had one and I wouldn't want my kid thinking he was weird at school after football or whatever sport they choose to play.

It's not a scriptural requirement anymore. It was originally intended as a sacrificial covenant with God. When Christ, he said he was the new covenant and that circumcision wasn't required anymore. I don't know what it does physically though.

You do realize there are other religions out there besides Christianity? Judaism still requires circumcisions I do believe.

 

[chaseter]

dbl

 

[Majic Walrus]

Uhhh I don't know many guys that would opt for a circumcision at 18. I have read that circumcisions may cause a slight decrease in sensation but it is better for health reasons as it makes things easier to clean and decrease infection. Plus, uncircumcised penises look weird. I am glad I had one and I wouldn't want my kid thinking he was weird at school after football or whatever sport they choose to play.

Baptism is a lot different from circumcision though.

 

[chaseter]

Baptism is a lot different from circumcision though.

It is, but it is a parent's choice. Getting circumcised or baptised isn't going to **** up the kid's life...that is my point. He won't remember the circumcision or the baptism so it really doesn't matter if they happen or not. It is a parent's choice is my point. Plus, as I have said, I have read that there are more health benefits for a circumcision than not getting one so I would like my kids to be the healthiest they can be. I would get it done by a doctor...not a Clergymen of course. But, the circumcision can mirror the baptism in some religious context, which is how the two can be related.