Batman: Arkham City

[ChrisBaleBatman]

Man...for a Batman fan like me, I'm just begging for an excuse to buy the remaster. I don't think it'd take much, either. Using skins in both Arkham Asylum and City, seeing them in cutscenes, a photo mode, getting to use the Joker in challenge maps via the move set and stuff they had for Asylum...I don't know, even a few of those things might have put me over the edge and gotten me to re-purchase two games I've already bought twice a piece (got them on Xbox and PS3).

And to not even be able to just hit the low margin of giving us some stuff that would be an incentive to repurchase them...it makes me wonder who they expect is supposed to buy the remaster at all. Are they expecting this to be for everyone who never played the games before and now suddenly feels like paying full price for two games they can get for damn cheap now on last gen? I think maybe it'd even be a understandable move if this was a lead up to Arkham Knight's release, so maybe you reach those people who never played them to begin with?

I mean, even with that mindset, you have to assume that most of the people who are going to buy it have already owned the originals. You guys are right, the only term that comes to mind is lazy. Making the remaster worthwhile for people who already own the games would have taken a little more effort than this.

 

[DarthSkywalker]

WB Interactive have reached the mountain top. They are officially the worst publisher out there.

 

[Nardz937]

I can't recommend this game to the most die-hard of Batman/Arkham fans who have already played and own the originals.

There is absolutely nothing new added gameplay wise. The graphical upgrade is very small and I've actually encountered more glitches in RTA than I have in the original games (which were extremely well-polished)

And that's a good question ChrisBaleBatman, about who this game is for. The title suggests it's for those who have already played the original games, but the game itself no reasons for why you should have.

 

[Kane52630]

Look at Batman's mouth:


Around 0:37. It's also stupid that the old cutscenes look better than the new ones. They might be pre-rendered but still.

yikes...

 

[Nathan]

How did they actually manage to **** up the character model like that?

 

[DarthSkywalker]

A few were trying to defend this, but the writing was on the wall for this collection from the first images.

 

[SpideyVille]

yikes...

That's my only real issue. The lighting is hit or miss. The environments look way better, but the models don't, and the warmer lights and their intensity hurt the tone of the game.

 

[OcStat]

I have seen nothing to really give this remaster the benefit of the doubt...but for those who are irritated at the lack of new features, I ask, how many remasters in the last 6 or 7 years have actually added anything new to the game?

Uncharted Collection with Speed Runs is like the closest thing. And that isn't necessarily new content, just another way to play the game. Remasters hardly ever add anything new. Maybe I'm wrong and there's more, but I'd be surprised if that is the case. I don't keep too close an eye on re-releases.

 

[Havok83]

I have seen nothing to really give this remaster the benefit of the doubt...but for those who are irritated at the lack of new features, I ask, how many remasters in the last 6 or 7 years have actually added anything new to the game?

Uncharted Collection with Speed Runs is like the closest thing. And that isn't necessarily new content, just another way to play the game. Remasters hardly ever add anything new. Maybe I'm wrong and there's more, but I'd be surprised if that is the case. I don't keep too close an eye on re-releases.

well they shouldnt be expected to. This remaster trend started as a way to port games to that current gen and make them HD

GTA V added significant improvements to the game but that felt more than a remaster. They did well more than they needed to and I consider them a different case as they were still developing the game; not going back to old stuff from years ago that they've on from and arent making much money off of like most

 

[Broseph44]

yikes...

This one is one of the big ones that keeps bothering me. So bad.

 

[SpideyVille]

It's also hard to add new things, especially content, when the company handling the remaster is not the original developer. Virtuous was in charge of upgrading the visuals, not Rocksteady.

 

[SpideyVille]

well they shouldnt be expected to. This remaster trend started as a way to port games to that current gen and make them HD

GTA V added significant improvements to the game but that felt more than a remaster. They did well more than they needed to and I consider them a different case as they were still developing the game; not going back to old stuff from years ago that they've on from and arent making much money off of like most

See, I don't really think GTA V counts as a remaster. It was more like a delayed version of the game. It's no different than Watch Dogs being available on both last and current gen consoles.

I honestly feel that the game was developed with current gen in mind, but they needed to get it out on last gen first because it was ready sooner and releasing it after the current gen consoles were released months later would have hurt initial sales.

 

[Havok83]

See, I don't really think GTA V counts as a remaster. It was more like a delayed version of the game. It's no different than Watch Dogs being available on both last and current gen consoles.

I honestly feel that the game was developed with current gen in mind, but they needed to get it out on last gen first because it was ready sooner and releasing it after the current gen consoles were released months later would have hurt initial sales.

yeah especially since alot of people like myself, bought it twice

 

[SpideyVille]

yeah especially since alot of people like myself, bought it twice

Heck, I bought it three times. PS3 at launch, then PS4 when I got mine last year, and then a few months ago on PC, which was released in between the console versions.

 

[OcStat]

well they shouldnt be expected to. This remaster trend started as a way to port games to that current gen and make them HD

GTA V added significant improvements to the game but that felt more than a remaster. They did well more than they needed to and I consider them a different case as they were still developing the game; not going back to old stuff from years ago that they've on from and arent making much money off of like most

It's also hard to add new things, especially content, when the company handling the remaster is not the original developer. Virtuous was in charge of upgrading the visuals, not Rocksteady.

Exactly. People shouldn't expect it but they do because they don't understand the difference between remaster and remake.

GTAV is a good example because it is a different case because it was remade from the ground up on current hardware. I bought it twice too. I don't think it is comparable to games that release on different gens at the same time because it is usually developed on one system and ported to the rest.

 

[The Caped Knight]

the remastering takes away the grittiness that was previously seen in both Asylum & City in the character design.

 

[The Joker]

yikes...

Don't like Batman's facial design, and really dislike that they brightened up the atmosphere. They just keep giving more reasons not to buy it.

 

[The Caped Knight]

 

[spiderman2]

Nice video right there and big time prof that the remaster versions look really good and that the problem is not its graphics but how it runs. Just about ever thing in the remaster looks clearly better then the old ones like 98% and the remaster even looks better then the PC version like 65% of the time. If the game had the same graphics but ran much better like a sold 30 FPS with out dropping the reviews would be much better.

 

[Nathan]

I just can't get over how terrible Batman looks. But they seem to have only messed up the Asylum model. The City model looks actually the same as the old one.

 

[batfreakforever]

Man, these remastered games are !@#$ing amazing. Very impressive updated graphics.
Done Asylum and City and are now getting through the extras.
I now have the Rocksteady trilogy on ps4. Sweeeet!!!

 

[ChrisBaleBatman]

Man, the color palette looks so different it almost looks like the same subject but drawn and colored by different artists. I prefer the grey/black color palette with Batman, but it's clearly never been that with the first two Arkham games. Changing it from the Blue just seems wrong.

Almost reminds me of the Ezio collection photo I've seen going around lately, of that guy in the crowd that looks like he got hit by a train compared to the original.

I have no idea if it's just my ignorance about how the process of remastering these old games works, but it just winds up seeming like they cut corners and took shortcuts that ultimately makes something from a handful of years ago look better in some spots. I mean, the videos I've seen, the Arkham remaster looks stunning in some spots, but looks weird and bad in others. Batman just looks bad in that picture.

 

[SpideyVille]

Man, the color palette looks so different it almost looks like the same subject but drawn and colored by different artists. I prefer the grey/black color palette with Batman, but it's clearly never been that with the first two Arkham games. Changing it from the Blue just seems wrong.

Almost reminds me of the Ezio collection photo I've seen going around lately, of that guy in the crowd that looks like he got hit by a train compared to the original.

I have no idea if it's just my ignorance about how the process of remastering these old games works, but it just winds up seeming like they cut corners and took shortcuts that ultimately makes something from a handful of years ago look better in some spots. I mean, the videos I've seen, the Arkham remaster looks stunning in some spots, but looks weird and bad in others. Batman just looks bad in that picture.

In regards to this, it's a partially BS story that's going around. But I saw a video explaining how NPCs in the game are randomized, and that you can see that same NPC in different parts of the game and he doesn't look that bad. The issue in that one shot is just the ways the colors were enhanced. But it's not the same model they used in the comparison of the old-gen version.

 

[Nardz937]

Return to Arkham on sale on PSN right now for $28.99.

For those who have never played these games before, this is an absolute steal.


For those who have, this still isn't worth this much money.

 

[Dave McFly]

it was also on walmart for 25 for BF both for the One and the PS4