Batman Forever

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Well, I need some pictures of him as well so if you want to share go ahead.
 

Heh! Two-Face said "queer" when he was talking about the look of his face. Can't believe comics in the old days get away with using words like that along with "*****" & "Papa spank!". And since when does Two-Face tend to laugh like he's the Joker on his last lines there? :wow:
 
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Heh! Two-Face said "queer" when he was talking about the look of his face. Can't believe comics in the old days get away with using words like that along with "*****" & "Papa spank!". And since when does Two-Face tend to laugh like he's the Joker on his last lines there? :wow:

Joker isn't the only one allowed to laugh! :oldrazz:
 
The Silver Age is where Batman was a friend to the public. In those days he was less of a vigilante as more of an icon, along the lines of Superman (albeit retaining his darkness and not being a meta-human).



Show some respect to those classic stories. After all, they were around before you were, and set the stage for its successors. Even Frank Miller's TDKR is an answer to it: take him away from the public light for once, make him into a hardcore anti-hero.

Batman wouldn't be what he is today without the panels DoctorBaywatch posted.

They are still lame. Silver Ag Batman isn't bad, but back in the 50's and 60's Batman was becoming a joke, they had a whole damn Bat family, bat-Woman, Bat-Girl, Robin, Bat-Mite...it was ridiculous. I'm glad in the 70's they brought back his darker tone, and in the 80's they made him really dark. He's not Superman, he's not this happy go lucky crime fighter.
 
Those four characters you listed are still, or quite recently have been in continuity, so you might as well stop reading comics since they're too ridiculous for you; if you have honestly read a Batman book... I'm personally not convinced you have.
 
I love it when people come out and bash those comics by saying they weren't true to the character.

They invented the character with those comics.

Personally I like them, and good job finding those, they're the original ones right, 'cause he's still called Kent.
 
Those four characters you listed are still, or quite recently have been in continuity, so you might as well stop reading comics since they're too ridiculous for you; if you have honestly read a Batman book... I'm personally not convinced you have.

Anything past Batman, Robin, and Bat girl is lame. I think they even had a Bat dog in there at one point.

Oh I stopped reading the lame comics. Be it where he came from or not the stories are lame and most of the characters are lame. You old timers can enjoy your lame, campy, cheesy Batman all you want.

I prefer a truer representation of the character. He was originally in the 40's a grim avenger of the night, darker, grittier. The 50's and 60's compromised the character too much. I mean they had him battling aliens for christ sake, gimme a break.
 
Anything past Batman, Robin, and Bat girl is lame. I think they even had a Bat dog in there at one point.

Don't hate on dogs, they're precious creatures.

Oh I stopped reading the lame comics. Be it where he came from or not the stories are lame and most of the characters are lame. You old timers can enjoy your lame, campy, cheesy Batman all you want.

Old age has nothing to do with what we're talking about. Our respect for the Golden and Silver Age comics is attributed to us comprehending the necessary, unstoppable evolution of a lasting fictional hero.

As culture changes, so to must Batman. That's why the Superman franchise got shafted. Superman writers failed to keep savvy.

By reading some of your posts, I can tell comprehension and reasonability aren't where you shine.

I prefer a truer representation of the character. He was originally in the 40's a grim avenger of the night, darker, grittier. The 50's and 60's compromised the character too much. I mean they had him battling aliens for christ sake, gimme a break.

Your arguments are far sillier than any of those comics were.

That's why now, nobody cares what you prefer.
 
Don't hate on dogs, they're precious creatures.



Old age has nothing to do with what we're talking about. Our respect for the Golden and Silver Age comics is attributed to us comprehending the necessary, unstoppable evolution a comic book hero.

By reading some of your posts, I can tell comprehension and reasonability aren't where you shine.



Your arguments are far sillier than any of those comics were.

That's why now, nobody cares what you prefer.

Dude, lighten up, he just said he likes the darker approach rather than the lighter approach. You didn't have to go all ape**** on him. lol.
 
That's dandy. But unlike him, you wisely chose not to disparage the necessary light-hearted stories and the fans you read and enjoy them today.
 
Anything past Batman, Robin, and Bat girl is lame. I think they even had a Bat dog in there at one point.

Oh I stopped reading the lame comics. Be it where he came from or not the stories are lame and most of the characters are lame. You old timers can enjoy your lame, campy, cheesy Batman all you want.

I prefer a truer representation of the character. He was originally in the 40's a grim avenger of the night, darker, grittier. The 50's and 60's compromised the character too much. I mean they had him battling aliens for christ sake, gimme a break.

You quite clearly don't understand what the 60's comics meant, it was a product of its time, free-love, psychadelia, camp humour, colourful characters who were larger then life. And that got translated into the comics.

The 80's were a dark time for humanity, HIV, nuclear war, yuppies, pure greed and government distrust. Likewise this also got translated into comics like DKR and Y1.

Learn your history before you bash it.
 
The Bat Family has it's place. I agree that it shouldn't be bashed in context.
 
Don't hate on dogs, they're precious creatures.



Old age has nothing to do with what we're talking about. Our respect for the Golden and Silver Age comics is attributed to us comprehending the necessary, unstoppable evolution of a lasting fictional hero.

As culture changes, so to must Batman. That's why the Superman franchise got shafted. Superman writers failed to keep savvy.

By reading some of your posts, I can tell comprehension and reasonability aren't where you shine.



Your arguments are far sillier than any of those comics were.

That's why now, nobody cares what you prefer.
So true, so true, Superman in this modern day in age is so irrelevant compared to when he was most popular. Batman is a character that can change with the times very easily, it has been proved through all of the years of him still being a very popular character, other than Spiderman and X-men, THE most popular character.
 
Seems like BatmanForNever needs to go read up on his facts before he comes on here acting like hes been here for a while, debating with veterans.
 
That's dandy. But unlike him, you wisely chose not to disparage the necessary light-hearted stories and the fans you read and enjoy them today.
Yes he wisely chooses not to get you angry, heaven forbid someone doesn't like the cheese feast that they turned the character into.

Light hearted stories in Batman can be done (EX: some episodes of BTAS) but not in the 50's and 60's style. Sure they can be a product of their generation but that's no excuse for the terrible, camp that they turned Batman into. regardless of what the 60's were or what from that time was reflected onto Batman, that's still not Batman.

They turned him something he was not. He started off darker, got real light hearted and was your neighborhood happy crime fighter...then thank god they went back to his roots and made him darker again. You think a man whose parents were murdered in front of him and he is scarred for life, avenging there death, he's addicted to it, it has become his life. And he has a whole damn bat family, comes out during the day waving at the happy people of Gotham?

Give me a break. Go and like your campny Batman, but know that that's not the true Batman. At least the Reflectionist has some common sense.

Percisely my arguments of them compromising the character too much are far sillier than those damn horrible books that were drawn poorly as well. Exactly. You know everything.
 
Every other month there seems to be someone who comes on here and tells everyone what is true and not true to the Batman character. Theres always someone new who has to come on here and tell everyone that the silver age Batman comics suck and are a joke. Believe it or not, we've all heard your crap before Batmanfornever. Poeple like you know it all, and no one else has a valid point. Comic books back then were, believe it or not, for children. Not adults and not the violence driven teenagers that run amuck today. Comic books were on the verge of being destroyed so the companies had to change in order to keep them alive. Comic books also stayed relevant to what was popular to kids of the time. Science fiction. People today need to understand the history of our culture and give it respect. There is more destructive garbage today then there ever was back in the 50's and 60's. That includes the current content of the Batman comics and movies.
 
Every other month there seems to be someone who comes on here and tells everyone what is true and not true to the Batman character. Theres always someone new who has to come on here and tell everyone that the silver age Batman comics suck and are a joke. Believe it or not, we've all heard your crap before Batmanfornever. Poeple like you know it all, and no one else has a valid point. Comic books back then were, believe it or not, for children. Not adults and not the violence driven teenagers that run amuck today. Comic books were on the verge of being destroyed so the companies had to change in order to keep them alive. Comic books also stayed relevant to what was popular to kids of the time. Science fiction. People today need to understand the history of our culture and give it respect. There is more destructive garbage today then there ever was back in the 50's and 60's. That includes the current content of the Batman comics and movies.

I'm sorry I prefer an edge to my Batman and that I get pigeoned holed into one of the new guys that knows nothing on Batman. Just because I registered here recently doesn't mean I'm a new Batman fan, have been all my life. I never said that the current Batman isn't ******ed either, the All Star "Goddamn" Batman is a joke.

It's not true to the character. Take it or leave it. Batman is not a happy go lucky guy. It may seem every time someone mentions about the 50's and 60's not being true to character gets bashed for their opinions. Or in this case truths. Is it Batman yes, but only in name.
 
I'm glad someone understands. I don't mind if Bruce Wayne is somewhat of a nice guy & a playboy but Batman doesn't need to be someone who laughs & isn't serious like Clooney's Batman or like Adam West's Batman.
 
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