Batman or Superman

[Herr Logan]

I'm sorry, but most bat-fans act like idiots.

"ooo!!! with prep time, Batman can beat [Insert Marvel hero]"

In fact, once someone told me that they had a friend who liked batman...until he saw a post similar to the example i posted.

Not all Bat-fans act like morons...but there is the stereotype because of the morons.

People in general tend to be morons. Anyone who holds a tribalistic, competitive stance against other characters than their favorite is an idiot. This applies to all characters and every other thing that people might like. Your labeling bat-fans is a bit confusing, considering your name, but if you're only going by your own behavior, it makes perfect sense.

 

[X]

People in general tend to be morons. Anyone who holds a tribalistic, competitive stance against other characters than their favorite is an idiot. This applies to all characters and every other thing that people might like. Your labeling bat-fans is a bit confusing, considering your name, but if you're only going by your own behavior, it makes perfect sense.

I really think you misunderstood him man...

 

[Herr Logan]

If you say so. I just don't cotton to thems what labels entire groups that are only distinguished by a superficial trait.

 

[batnkevlar]

Well, okay, maybe nowadays I have realized that Batman might not be able to beat EVERYONE, but he's still my favorite character. But I still do think there might be a way to for Batman to beat Superman. And I have a question:

If Batman had access to magic, could he take away Thor's powers?

 

[X]

Well, okay, maybe nowadays I have realized that Batman might not be able to beat EVERYONE, but he's still my favorite character. But I still do think there might be a way to for Batman to beat Superman. And I have a question:

If Batman had access to magic, could he take away Thor's powers?

Even if he did, I doubt it. The only power Thor has that anyone would be able to take away is Mjolnir's inherent abilities. I mean, he could still do his unfettered might attack or his god blast even without Odin's enhancements. I don't think Bruce is partial to magic at all either, he's kind of like Reed with it.

And Batman could beat Superman, but not if Superman is evil and wants to actually kill him. Yes, Superman has always held back against Bruce, whether you want to admit it or not and there have always been circumstancial things going on between the two. From DKR to them "fighting" in 86 during the DC Relaunch, the Man of Steel mini... Doesen't take much away from Bruce, still very impressive. He's beaten Prometheus, White Martians, he had some pretty ingenius plans and what not to take out the JLA and others, yadda yadd yadda. But he's also gotten his ass kicked by Deathstroke and he's been stalemated by the KGBeast.

 

[Herr Logan]

If Superman meant business and was willing to kill, he would easily destroy the Batman, period.

By the same token, if the Batman meant business and was willing to kill, he could very well take out most of the metahumans in the DC universe, including Superman. The Batman would indeed need prep-time and external forces and devices to make that happen, but he has the resources and the intelligence. His contingency plans for the JLA are a perfect example.

 

[X]

I think when you really look at what happened during Tower of Babel, what Batman did losing a bit of it's "wow". I mean, you had Ra's men doing all the work, that's more people right there that are in the Bat's family. And, if Batman was trying to take out a good part of DC Earth, I don't think he could get the Bat's family or any others to work with him. So what, he goes after people like the MM to stop a telepathic warning from getting to others?

The MM doesen't even have a fire weakness for the most part anymore... The Flash is faster then ever. I don't think the plan he cooked up for Wonder Woman would work a second time, and so on. I think the world in general is a bit more aware of The Batman and what he's capable of. If things did start to get really bad, I'm sure someone like Deathstroke would be called in once they found out it was bats. Someone who trumps him in strength, reflexes, toughness, yadda yadda yadda. He's just as good a planner with almost as much money, and so on. At the very least just Deathstroke could throw a serious wrench into the workings of Batman's plan. And don't say Batman would take him out relitivley soon, I'm sure Slade has plans in case Batman ever came after him again...

 

[Herr Logan]

All right, all right... I never read the whole "Tower of Babel" story, I just got the highlights off this forum. And I have no idea what this Deathstroke person is capable of. Are you happy now?

The Batman is incredibly dangerous in similar ways as Dr. Doom, although on a much smaller scale. He's brilliant, calculating, rich, and ruthless when he needs to be. I didn't say he'd be invincible, I said he's capable of a frightening amount of damage. If Superman went homicidal before the Batman did, he could very easily destroy the Batman before he could mobilize any kind of attack.

 

[X]

I agree with you 100%.

I'm really not partial for or against any given character. Just to let ya know.

 

[Herr Logan]

Except the Defenders, right?

 

[X]

The Defenders? Meh. Great idea on paper but they almost always got stuck with really ****ty villians who were way too weak for them, and after Sal Buscema left, The Defenders pretty much just flat out sucked. Lot of other problems as well. So no, I'm not very partial to them either.

 

[Herr Logan]

If ya ain't fer it, then yer again' it!

 

[krisboyuk]

Superman. I hope.

 

[Skipper]

I don't think there are those 2 defined groups. I do prefer Batman, but I also love Superman!

 

[Bat Andy]

I'm definately a Batman type person, not for who he can defeat but the ways he goes about defeating his foes.

 

[The Techno Bat]

Definately Batman!

 

[krisboyuk]

I think I wouldn’t want someone to think of me as a ‘Batman’ type person. I mean Batman is cool in a comic book sense but in the real world if I sat next to a guy like that in a bar and he was being all ‘Batman’ I would think “What an a$$hole!”.

A lot of people are voting Batman because they would like to be cool like him. I would prefer people saw more as Superman than Batman. I’m not saying I’m anything like Superman. I’m not perfect. Not near it. But I’m more like Superman than a dark phantom of the night. I genuinely try hard to be a nice guy even when other people are being a$$hole’s to me. I always try to give someone the benefit of doubt. I always give my seat up on a bus or train to someone who needs it more. I don’t hold a grudge. The whole ‘do unto others …’ thing. That’s me. Sometimes I think why bother because no one else does but I’ve got to try. I hate people being inconsiderate and unsocial just to fit a trend. I feel sorry for those people. It’s not a religious thing, or particularly the way I was raised, it’s just the way I am.

And I hope there if people are being honest with this poll then they too will admit to being more of a ‘Superman’ than some over-angry, untrusting, a$$hole. Batman is a great character but I don’t want to b like him. Ever.

 

[Bat Andy]

But Bruce Wayne would give up his seat and he is very polite especially to those who he deems as responsible and respectful. I imagine if Bruce was in a bar he would be quite personable.

 

[ViscaBarcaInter]

Well, I would rather BE Superman than Batman (Most people would rather be Superman than anybody, really). But I prefer Batman the character. They are both awesome in their own way, but I think Batman has more......I don't want to say "depth" to his character, because I don't want to degrade Superman in any way. But Batman has more to enjoy, as a franchise, in my opinion. Purely my opinion.

If you want to talk in generalisations, it would seem that Marvel fans would like Batman MORE than other DC characters, because he is very much like the old Marvel staple of "brilliant but flawed" superheroes. That's IF you want to judge purely by DC only and Marvel only fans. Rather than the more common "person who reads both".

 

[Anubis]

I would say I'm more of a Green Arrow type of guy, but hey, thats me.

 

[Herr Logan]

I would say I'm more of a Green Arrow type of guy, but hey, thats me.

Pinko rabble-rouser.

 

[Anubis]

Screw you you facist fat cat

 

[PaleRider]

I voted Batman but I could go either way cause I love Superman as well

 

[Herr Logan]

Screw you you facist fat cat

Filthy socialist vigilate archers... That's what's wrong with America today; too many God damn socialist vigilantes with bows and arrows!

 

[X]

Bwhhahaha.