Batman R.I.P.

[Majic Walrus]

Bruce Wayne needs to become The Spectre.

Nah then every DC character that dies will start being the Spectre. Hal, then Bruce... etc. etc..

 

[Nepenthes]

jason hasn't even shown up in morrison's run, so i doubt that the outcome would rely on him. i bet dick is batman, damien said so in #666, there were also 2 batsuits in his memorial glass thing.

the outcome may not *rely* on him but Jason will play some role in the aftermath of RIP. which is fantastic news. I was hoping Morrison would write Jason from day one



edit - is it just me or does anyone else see roses in this image? around batman. wondering if it's intentional, or even intentionally subtle like that

DiDio then turned to "Batman R.I.P.," rhetorically asking the audience what they thought would happen at the end. He then brought up "Batman R.I.P." writer Grant Morrison to discuss the story.

"'Batman R.I.P.' ends with quite a big shock," said Morrison, saying the ending will be followed by a two-issue story that is effectively the last Batman story. A slide was shown of Batman: Battle for the Cowl with Nightwing, Jason Todd, Robin, Hush and Catwoman appearing on the image.

 

[Majic Walrus]

the outcome may not *rely* on him but Jason will play some role in the aftermath of RIP. which is fantastic news. I was hoping Morrison would write Jason from day one



edit - is it just me or does anyone else see roses in this image? around batman. wondering if it's intentional, or even intentionally subtle like that

I see the roses. I also think the positioning of the characters will play an important role. Didio has me analyzing every last detail of every promo ad I see....

 

[twilitezoner]

I wonder what role Azrael is going to play in the post RIP world? Morrison mentioned at Comic Con that he will appear shortly in the title.

 

[Saint]

I've always thought a great way to reintroduce Azrael would be for a Sinestro ring to select him as Sinestro Corpsman for sector 2814, and he'd have to try and fight it off. Jean Paul spent a lot of time in his own book tying to suppress the violence in himself, and after his apparent death, I would see him in isolation, hoping to avoid hurting anyone. The ring finds him there, and, as those rings are designed to do, means to take him to Qward for conditioning, and it takes all his willpower to prevent the ring from doing that. I think it would be a really cool way for him to shake off all the brainwashing and craziness he's suffered; his subconscious would create physical manifestations of the system, of his hallucinations of his father and St. Dumas, his Azbats persona, Azrael, and he'd fight them. He could also come to Batman for help trying to resist the ring.

I imagine the ring creating a physical manifestation of the system as an insane maze or labyrinth, and Jean Paul has to find his way out, emerging on the other side having finally beat back all the horrible things that were forced into him by the Order.

 

[jackshea]

the fact that catwoman is there is intriguing...

 

[Dark Victory]

Is it just me or does Jason look a lot older than Dick?

 

[jackshea]

he does, i never was a fan of his return, it was cheesy to show him in hush, then say it wasn't him, then all of the sudden make it him again.

 

[sclabguy]

Is it just me or does Jason look a lot older than Dick?

dick has looked the same since the 80's

edit: besides the costume

 

[jackshea]

jason looks like he's bruce's age.

 

[Arach Knight]

I just got through browsing the Wikipedia entry on this story arc and I must say that so far, it sounds absolutely terrible. I dislike Morrison's obsession with drug addiction and the needles ursurping of the status quo. This story almost mirrors every element of his run on X-Men a few years ago.

-Drug abuse
-Shift of the status quo
-A blurred line of identities for key characters
-Killing off/replacing key characters.

It wasn't fun when he tried to make Magneto a drug addict and it isn't fun having Martha Wayne be a drug addict, while simultaneously exposing Nightwing and Batman to an abundance of drugs. I will be glad when Morrison's run is complete. He is a fantastic writer, but he is too wild in his ideas.

 

[jackshea]

the wild ideas are fun. i don't care if he makes them all die as long as its entertaining and interesting.

 

[UA-Archangel]

Is it just me or does Jason look a lot older than Dick?

Well, Dick was once the Boy Wonder.

 

[Yoda Claus]

Well, Dick was once the Boy Wonder.

Right...as was Jason Todd. After Dick. Unless I am completely missing some veiled joke of some sort.

 

[UA-Archangel]

Right...as was Jason Todd. After Dick. Unless I am completely missing some veiled joke of some sort.

Nothing more insidious as to why Dick, being a good 15 years older than Jason looks younger than him.

 

[Saint]

Eh? Dick is, at maximum, four years older than Jason.

 

[sto_vo_kor_2000]

Eh? Dick is, at maximum, four years older than Jason.

I thought it was closer to 6 or 8 years.

 

[Saint]

Hm. Jason was, at minimum, twelve when he became Robin. Dick was, at maximum, eighteen when he became Nightwing at the same time. So, yes, I suppose it was a mistake for me to say there was a maximum of four years difference--the maximum is six. My preferred timeline is that Dick was 17-18, and Jason was 13-14, making for a 3-5 year age difference.

 

[sto_vo_kor_2000]

Hm. Jason was, at minimum, twelve when he became Robin. Dick was, at maximum, eighteen when he became Nightwing at the same time. So, yes, I suppose it was a mistake for me to say there was a maximum of four years difference--the maximum is six. My preferred timeline is that Dick was 17-18, and Jason was 13-14, making for a 3-5 year age difference.

Well even your max and min years has a bit of "Fan Retconning" to them.

Simply based on the dialog from the books back then Jason may well have been about 13 when he became Robin but Dick must have had to be at least 19 to 21 when he became Nightwing.

I know DC has "Retconned" the years as well.I'm just talking about what must be based on the books.

 

[Saint]

Dick was still a Teen Titan when he became Nightwing--ergo, he was under twenty.

 

[sto_vo_kor_2000]

Dick was still a Teen Titan when he became Nightwing--ergo, he was under twenty.

Dick was a college Drop out when he became Nightwing.

And it was said [back then] that he spent at least a "FEW" years at Hudson University.

"FEW" is at least 3.

Ergo-- the original continuity he had to be at least 20 when he became Nightwing.

 

[CaptainClown]

I have always considered a few at least 2

 

[sto_vo_kor_2000]

I have always considered a few at least 2

2 would be a couple of years.

A few years should be 3 or more.

 

[CaptainClown]

ya I was thinking about it later and your right

 

[Saint]

Dick was a college Drop out when he became Nightwing.

And it was said [back then] that he spent at least a "FEW" years at Hudson University.

"FEW" is at least 3.

Ergo-- the original continuity he had to be at least 20 when he became Nightwing.

Hm, I hadn't thought about the college thing. However, if one wanted to reconcile this problem, one could suppose that Dick, being especially intelligent, went to college a couple of years early.