BATMAN: Safe Haven for Those Who Demand More

[Herr Logan]

Herr Logan im really sorry... Can you post Lots of Inque pictures? I really REALLY REALLY REALLY REALLY need those pics.

You will stop posting in this thread. You have spammed here twice, thereby violating the Rules, and will be reported to the moderators if you post even one more time.

 

[Herr Logan]

I don't even know where to start.
I just found this thread today. WHERE HAS IT BEEN. Thanks for reviving it.
So refreshing to see fans of a like mind.
I haven't read the whole thread, being that it's 15 pages long, just kinda skimmed through it. And I am so relieved to find out that Herr Logan's announcememnt of leaving (page 7) didn't happen. Because....

cujo66: "I pledge myself to your teachings."
Herr Logan: "From this day hence, you shall be known as Darth Dark Claw. Rise"

I'm right with you. I'm gonna print the rules out and frame them.

I hate the "it's not realistic." Bull Shot.

One of the most unrealistic aspects of Begins is that costume, I'll buy it for the first movie, because it's what he had available, but for the second one, let's get "real". I'm Bruce Wayne, I've commited myself to being Batman, I'm a billionaire, I've got Lusious Fox at my beck and call, you think I'm gonna run around in some big, bulky, HOT body armor. No.

Bruce Wayne To Do List

• Kick Nolan in the balls for burning my house down. WTF?
• Rebuild house.
• Get Lusious to make me a lite wieght costume (something that looks less like Darth Vader)
• Have him find a better rig up for scaling and repeling, this belt thing is killing my back, need something that goes around and betwen the legs,like mountain climbers use, maybe conceal it in some type of trunks, blue would be a nice color, in fact I want the cowl, cape boots and gloves blue also.
• Scout circuses for orpheaned acrobats to audition for side kick.

I love this thread. I was about to give up on this forum because there are so many members here that I am not on the same page with, IMO, no movie version as come close to what I want to see. I don't care, I want the movie to look like it came off the comic pages. They gotta get directors who have a love for the comic medium, guys like Richard Rodriquez and Zach Snyder. They didn't want to give their interpretaions of Frank Miller's works, they wanted to bring Miller's works to life.

Anyway I think I've found a home here at SHH. And look forward to posts from other fans of the true Batman.

Welcome home, Darth Dark Claw.

Very nice to meet you and hear your enthusiasm for my cause. We shall fight many battles together, you and I, and rewrite each failed attempt at adaptive cinema in the blood of the unfaithful.... Or we can simply dream about such things.



I feel I should say right off that I could personally never accept a live action version of the Modern Batman with blue in his costume. Blue just doesn't fit that incarnation. If the movie/show was directly modeling the comics of the 50's and 60's, as the Adam West show was, then by all means (and I do believe that a show could be made that represents those comics that isn't quite as deliberately, over-the-top silly as the existing show was), but the Modern Batman (which happens to be my favorite incarnation, due to his psychology and his techniques, mostly) should be in dark gray and black. I staunchly believe that's the color scheme that most faithfully and practically honors the original image of the Batman as well as the ideal representation of the Modern incarnation. That's my own take on this issue. But don't feel like you have to agree with me. This time.

There are some things from previous eras in Batman history that I believe can be assimilated into the Modern Batman's repertoire, though. For instance, I fully intend to have a fireman's pole for the Batman to slide down to the cave in my ideal movie/TV series (it will be in addition to, not instead of, a large elevator). It's only ridiculous if he's magically suited up when he hits the floor. Also, there's a way to get him back up the pole that's different from the compressed air platform or the inexplicable method of the new cartoon (I'm too tired to explain it now). It's always good to pay homage to previous incarnations when it doesn't cut into the quality of the current incarnation.
Hell, if I had a TV series to work with, I'd also give him a "museum room" for the cave, although that won't be the original purpose of it (he would be keeping these items for safekeeping and study more than for trophies, at least at first).


Yes, I did miscalculate back on page 7 when I thought I was leaving. It may still happen (hopefully soon, but I just don't know at this point), but for now I'm here, and I've got the Batman on the brain, as usual. If I find out I am leaving, I'll give notice again, but this time I'm not taking a vote for who gains my kingdom. It didn't work out well last time.

 

[Herr Logan]

Out of curiosity, Cujo66, are you for or against live action Batman wearing opaque lenses in his cowl?

 

[Zaphod]

I really, really like The Penguin as a character, perhaps more than most fans, so I want to see him in all his gimmicky-glory. Namely, brandishing an array of patented umbrellas that include: sword, nerve-gas, flame-thrower and gun umbrella's.

Oswald Cobblepot would be the talk of the underworld, so to speak, and the more respectable cat's of organized crime would regard him with obscure curiosity and not-a-little-dose of fear. Oswald wants to penetrate the ranks of high-office crime, not to inaugurate himself, but to take it up as his own. His key goal in the movie would be to break free from criminal obscurity.

He would also regard Bruce Wayne, the public figure, with animosity, since it is Bruce's return to Gotham after several years that steals the limelight from the reputation he's been attempting to build up for himself. Perhaps he'll try and crash an expensive charity auction that Bruce hosts, with his mass of birds.

Oswald should probably be involved in intercepting and harrasing shipments of drugs and guns imported into Gotham by Falcone, and this earns him the ire of the crime-boss. So, here we have the forewarning to what will eventually subsume into an all out mob war in the second movie, but on a much smaller scale.

Thoughts?

 

[cujo66]

Out of curiosity, Cujo66, are you for or against live action Batman wearing opaque lenses in his cowl?

I guess I'm for them since I was trying to figure out how to use them on my cowl I was attempting,





had a set back but when I get motivated, and got some more money to waste on it, I'll finish it. It will be blue, since cape, gloves, boots and speedo, I mean trunks, are blue.

I go back and forth over the grey/black or grey/blue.
I'd take either one.

But these folks that say a comic style costume won't work are full of s**t.

This is from the fan film Batman Legends, the film may be cheesy but this costume isn't.


Real Batman Rules!

 

[MaskedManJRK]

I really, really like The Penguin as a character, perhaps more than most fans, so I want to see him in all his gimmicky-glory. Namely, brandishing an array of patented umbrellas that include: sword, nerve-gas, flame-thrower and gun umbrella's.

Oswald Cobblepot would be the talk of the underworld, so to speak, and the more respectable cat's of organized crime would regard him with obscure curiosity and not-a-little-dose of fear. Oswald wants to penetrate the ranks of high-office crime, not to inaugurate himself, but to take it up as his own. His key goal in the movie would be to break free from criminal obscurity.

He would also regard Bruce Wayne, the public figure, with animosity, since it is Bruce's return to Gotham after several years that steals the limelight from the reputation he's been attempting to build up for himself. Perhaps he'll try and crash an expensive charity auction that Bruce hosts, with his mass of birds.

Oswald should probably be involved in intercepting and harrasing shipments of drugs and guns imported into Gotham by Falcone, and this earns him the ire of the crime-boss. So, here we have the forewarning to what will eventually subsume into an all out mob war in the second movie, but on a much smaller scale.

Thoughts?

Hmm, the talk of the Penguin reminded me of what I'd do for him, which, I'm afraid, takes a bit from Batman Returns.

Why, you ask? First, that's the version I first saw/grew up with, so I got a lot of love for the tragic freak. Second, it's just BETTER to me then the usual gimmick villian and the dime-a-dozen mob boss that he is today.

In this series idea I have, it would involve Penguin as the Mayor of Gotham City. He's a rising politicion who's eccentric clothing and talks of change makes Gothamites swoon.

He was born as a "freak," with monsterous features, but his wealthy parents were able to fix most of his face and hands by the usage of plastic surgery. While out doing his business, he is a charming, suave man, but behind closed doors, he's a sadist and would give anything to see everything up in flames.

Also, his talks of change is a major sham--he's basically in the pocket of Falcone, but The Penguin's setting into plan to take out Falcone to take over his crime empire as well as run the city.

What do you guys think? Changing too much?

 

[The Joker]

I really, really like The Penguin as a character, perhaps more than most fans, so I want to see him in all his gimmicky-glory. Namely, brandishing an array of patented umbrellas that include: sword, nerve-gas, flame-thrower and gun umbrella's.

Oswald Cobblepot would be the talk of the underworld, so to speak, and the more respectable cat's of organized crime would regard him with obscure curiosity and not-a-little-dose of fear. Oswald wants to penetrate the ranks of high-office crime, not to inaugurate himself, but to take it up as his own. His key goal in the movie would be to break free from criminal obscurity.

He would also regard Bruce Wayne, the public figure, with animosity, since it is Bruce's return to Gotham after several years that steals the limelight from the reputation he's been attempting to build up for himself. Perhaps he'll try and crash an expensive charity auction that Bruce hosts, with his mass of birds.

Oswald should probably be involved in intercepting and harrasing shipments of drugs and guns imported into Gotham by Falcone, and this earns him the ire of the crime-boss. So, here we have the forewarning to what will eventually subsume into an all out mob war in the second movie, but on a much smaller scale.

Thoughts?

I think it's a great idea

Your scenario reminds me of this two part story in Detective Comics #610 & 611, which were written by Alan Grant, and drawn by Norm Breyfogle. In it, Penguin learns of a big buy up of drugs organized by Scarface.

Penguin and his gang attack the drug exachange and make off with all the cocaine and the millions of dollars that was there to buy the dope.

There's alot more in the story than just that, but your scenario of Penguin muscling in on other crime lord's deals reminded me of that story. So, it would be perfect. The Penguin would absolutely do something like that.

This story was set in the days when he was a flamboyant, colourful, umbrella toting villain. My favorite take on the character, too.

 

[Herr Logan]

I really, really like The Penguin as a character, perhaps more than most fans, so I want to see him in all his gimmicky-glory. Namely, brandishing an array of patented umbrellas that include: sword, nerve-gas, flame-thrower and gun umbrella's.

Oswald Cobblepot would be the talk of the underworld, so to speak, and the more respectable cat's of organized crime would regard him with obscure curiosity and not-a-little-dose of fear. Oswald wants to penetrate the ranks of high-office crime, not to inaugurate himself, but to take it up as his own. His key goal in the movie would be to break free from criminal obscurity.

He would also regard Bruce Wayne, the public figure, with animosity, since it is Bruce's return to Gotham after several years that steals the limelight from the reputation he's been attempting to build up for himself. Perhaps he'll try and crash an expensive charity auction that Bruce hosts, with his mass of birds.

Oswald should probably be involved in intercepting and harrasing shipments of drugs and guns imported into Gotham by Falcone, and this earns him the ire of the crime-boss. So, here we have the forewarning to what will eventually subsume into an all out mob war in the second movie, but on a much smaller scale.

Thoughts?

I like most of that. I like the proposed status in the underworld and the tension between the Penguin and "old-money" traditional OC criminals like Carmine Falcone.

What I don't like is the idea that Oswald Cobblepot gives a damn about Bruce Wayne one way or another. I really, really dislike when personal relationships/animosities between characters are fabricated in movie adaptations. True, at times it can help "tighten up" plotlines and character arcs, but if it doesn't easily and logically extrapolate from the source material, I don't feel it should be done.
A good example is 'Spider-Man 2.' There never should have been a personal connection with Movie!Parker and Movie!Ock. It was one more embarrassing degradation piled upon everything else that was wrong about both characters in the film. When the makers of the 90's Spider-Man cartoon show tried to force an existing mentorship, they actually did well with it and got some very good character exposure for both characters out of it, but it only worked because both characters in that show were actually done appropriately in almost every way.

Another example is in 'Batman Begins' when James Gordon comforts newly-orphaned Bruce Wayne at the police station. Maybe that doesn't seen like it soured the movie, but to me it blatantly watered down the connection between the two. The Batman is supposed to choose James Gordon as a GCPD insider because he's the right man for the job, not because he's got warm and fuzzy feelings. (Also, James Gordon never worked in Gotham until shortly before the Batman entered the picture, so he couldn't have been with Bruce at that time.) People can be a$$holes and pretend that saying "that was only incidental... it was mainly because he was a good cop" means a damn thing, but the truth is that we can't really know. The bottom line with the Batman is that most of what he does has to have the appearance of emotional detachment. Obviously his whole mission is all about his emotions, but it should never be that obvious when it isn't Alfred Pennyworth, Leslie Thompkins or any other person he actually made real personal friends with, because the Batman intellectualizes and rationalizes almost every emotional response he makes. Gordon was never a character in the comics that needed a rationalization. He's not an ally because he's a friend, it's the other way around.

Bruce Wayne feels animosity towards all violent criminals, simply because they are violent criminals. He doesn't need anything other than that to take them down. The most prominent characteristic of the Batman is his obsession. It makes him look like a half-ass weekend warrior if he only goes after criminals who attack Bruce Wayne or have a connection to him. The Batman does what he needs to do, regardless of who's the target.
It cheapens things-- in every character's story-- to falsify and force relationships or connections that don't really exist.




Sorry for the rant. I just can't stand how many movies have been ruined by fake, superfluous personal relationships.

 

[Herr Logan]

I guess I'm for them since I was trying to figure out how to use them on my cowl I was attempting,

had a set back but when I get motivated, and got some more money to waste on it, I'll finish it. It will be blue, since cape, gloves, boots and speedo, I mean trunks, are blue.

Good luck with your costume.

I go back and forth over the grey/black or grey/blue.
I'd take either one.

Fair enough.

But these folks that say a comic style costume won't work are full of s**t.

Yes, they certainly are. Filthy heathens...

This is from the fan film Batman Legends, the film may be cheesy but this costume isn't.

Very nice! Wish I had a better-lit shot of it as well. I haven't seen the fan film, and YouTube isn't being any help to me right now, but I'll check it out when I can.

For a professional production, I would want a darker shade or gray for the bodysuit. In truth. my ideal Batman costume's bodysuit may actually be the same shade as the suit of 'Batman Begins', since that was a weak shade of black, but because none of the suit would be reflective and the cowl, gloves, boots and trunks would actually be fully black (matte?) just like the cape, it would be clear to those who get a good look that there were two different colors. Also, the Bat-insignia would be the full black against the dark gray, and it would also be the only shiny part of the suit.

Real Batman Rules!

Damn straight!

 

[cujo66]

Very nice! Wish I had a better-lit shot of it as well. I haven't seen the fan film, and YouTube isn't being any help to me right now, but I'll check it out when I can.

Publicity Shot of the costume.

The film is one of those that it's better if you got the sound down. I just like how they stayed true to the costumes from the comics. I've got it downloaded to pc at home, I could upload it to megaupload or something if you'd like a copy.

I don't know if it was discussed earlier and I can't remember or not, but where do you stand on sidekicks?

I'm big on Batgirl. I had an idea for a TV show a while back that would be a cross between Smallville, Buffy, and Felicity. It would have Babs in college dealing with sappy love stuff, keeping her grades up, and fighting crime at night. Dick Greyson would be a character, classmate, but Batman and Robin would always be shot in the shadows. The show would have her going up against the Joker, Killer Moth and the likes of them, sometimes with the Caped Crusaders, sometimes with characters like the Black Cannery. Never thought out any stories just the concept. I'll have to finish my Batgirl/Spawn team up first in which Spawn is able to heal Barbara Gordons Paralysis.

Oh but the costume would be black on BG show.t:

 

[Zaphod]

I like most of that. I like the proposed status in the underworld and the tension between the Penguin and "old-money" traditional OC criminals like Carmine Falcone.

Good, good. Batman's investigation and roughing up of the underworld would spill information regarding tensions which have been brewing between Oswald's goons and Falcone's syndicate. In the beggining of the movie, it should be established that Penguins continued harrasments have caused some irritating setbacks for Falcone, but nothing catastrophic. However, by mid-point I want the conflict to have escalated; Oswald needs to pose a serious threat by half-way through, although I'm undecided on this would come about yet. I still want to retain everything you included with Batman dropping in on The Penguin and getting his ass handed to him and the reprisal at the end of the movie. The scene at the opera should be in there to if it fits.

What I don't like is the idea that Oswald Cobblepot gives a damn about Bruce Wayne one way or another. I really, really dislike when personal relationships/animosities between characters are fabricated in movie adaptations. True, at times it can help "tighten up" plotlines and character arcs, but if it doesn't easily and logically extrapolate from the source material, I don't feel it should be done.

I see what your saying. Basically, there shouldn't be connections for the sake of it, and I agree. I can drop that original idea and keep my ego intact and undamaged...for now

I had an idea for "tightening things up" which I think your going to loathe, but at the time I thought it was quite good. If you dont like it, I wont push it:

In "Year One", Bruce's first night out fighting crime ended in disastrous failure because he attempted to intervene when a hooker was being attacked, and was mortally wounded because he was wearing street clothes and acting without the theatrics. However, I thought of amending this scenario for the film adaptation:

I had the idea of combining that scenario with the one of Jim Gordon narrowly escaping an attempt on his life by Flass's men. Basically, throughout the first half of the movie, there will be some scenes of Bruce disguising himself and conducting intel on the likes of Gordon, Dent and Falcone throughout Gotham. He gets intel on the fact that Flass is planning to take down Gordon - frustrated with his harrasing, idealistic ways. Bruce dons the street disguise, some appliances and plans to intervene in order to rescue Jim. It goes down badly for Bruce, who is wounded, but he and Jim both manage to fight away the toughs and Jim is saved. Basically, it's the same scenario, but with Bruce intervening to save Jim instead.

The point is, that it has stronger symbolical potential while "tightening" the plot, since it is because of that event that both characters realize what they need to do: It is the turning point for Bruce becoming the Batman, and for Jim in realizing that he finally has to act in tackling crime from within aswell as outside his institution. The next time they meet, Bruce is Batman, and while it may be intimated lightly that Jim suspects it was the same unknown guy who rescued him, they are silent on that particular subject.

Thoughts? I'm quite fond of the idea, but I know it isn't entirely faithful to the events as portrayed in "Year One". However, I think it is an ammendant which could potentially improve our movie.

 

[Zaphod]

I like most of that. I like the proposed status in the underworld and the tension between the Penguin and "old-money" traditional OC criminals like Carmine Falcone.

Good, good. Batman's investigation and roughing up of the underworld would spill information regarding tensions which have been brewing between Oswald's goons and Falcone's syndicate. In the beggining of the movie, it should be established that Penguins continued harrasments have caused some irritating setbacks for Falcone, but nothing catastrophic. However, by mid-point I want the conflict to have escalated; Oswald needs to pose a serious threat by half-way through, although I'm undecided on this would come about yet. I still want to retain everything you included with Batman dropping in on The Penguin and getting his ass handed to him and the reprisal at the end of the movie. The scene at the opera should be in there to if it fits.

What I don't like is the idea that Oswald Cobblepot gives a damn about Bruce Wayne one way or another. I really, really dislike when personal relationships/animosities between characters are fabricated in movie adaptations. True, at times it can help "tighten up" plotlines and character arcs, but if it doesn't easily and logically extrapolate from the source material, I don't feel it should be done.[/quote]

I see what your saying. Basically, there shouldn't be connections for the sake of it, and I agree. I can drop that original idea and keep my ego intact and undamaged...for now

I had an idea for "tightening things up" which I think your going to loathe, but at the time I thought it was quite good. If you dont like it, I wont push it:

In "Year One", Bruce's first night out fighting crime ended in disastrous failure because he attempted to intervene when a hooker was being attacked, and was mortally wounded because he was wearing street clothes and acting without the theatrics. However, I thought of amending this scenario for the film adaptation:

I had the idea of combining that scenario with the one of Jim Gordon narrowly escaping an attempt on his life by Flass's men. Basically, throughout the first half of the movie, there will be some scenes of Bruce disguising himself and conducting intel on the likes of Gordon, Dent and Falcone throughout Gotham. He gets intel on the fact that Flass is planning to take down Gordon - frustrated with his harrasing, idealistic ways. Bruce dons the street disguise, some appliances and plans to intervene in order to rescue Jim. It goes down badly for Bruce, who is wounded, but he and Jim both manage to fight away the toughs and Jim is saved. Basically, it's the same scenario, but with Bruce intervening to save Jim instead.

The point is, that it has stronger symbolical potential while "tightening" the plot, since it is because of that event that both characters realize what they need to do: It is the turning point for Bruce becoming the Batman, and for Jim in realizing that he finally has to act in tackling crime from within aswell as outside his institution. The next time they meet, Bruce is Batman, and while it may be intimated lightly that Jim suspects it was the same unknown guy who rescued him, they are silent on that particular subject.

Thoughts? I'm quite fond of the idea, but I know it isn't entirely faithful to the events as portrayed in "Year One". However, I think it is an ammendant which could potentially improve our movie.

 

[Herr Logan]

Publicity Shot of the costume.

The film is one of those that it's better if you got the sound down. I just like how they stayed true to the costumes from the comics. I've got it downloaded to pc at home, I could upload it to megaupload or something if you'd like a copy.

Appreciate that, but I finally got YouTube to work.

That was... a nice and respectable hobbywork. I like the costumes for the Batman (although I still believe a much darker tone of gray is more appropriate for a live action film) and Robin. Can't say I was too impressed with what Nightwing looked like. That's a situation where you really do need more than standard tights. I don't mean he needs rubber armor, or even padding; I'm talking about the shade of blue, quality of fabric and just how amateur it all looks.

But I only look at this fanfilm with such a critical eye because the original topic was centered on a hypothetical professional production, and this is reference material. Thank you for giving me a heads-up, Cujo, as I honestly hadn't even heard of this video before.

I don't know if it was discussed earlier and I can't remember or not, but where do you stand on sidekicks?

As long as all the proper details are kept in place and it's all handled with both faithfulness to the source material and respect for more sophisticated viewers (i.e., people who demand quality dialogue, plotting, presentation and a consistent tone for the psychologically exploratory crime drama a real Batman story should be), sidekicks get the green light from me.

In a movie series, I'd bring Robin into the fold in the third movie. He would not be a college-age young man who merely behaved with the maturity of a child (unlike Chris O'Donnell's dreadful version in 'Batman Forever'). He would not go straight to being Nightwing, as many people unfortunately want in a Batman franchise. He would not stay in the cave the entire time and provide tech support. He would be Dick Grayson, no older than 15 when taken in by Bruce Wayne, who would be in his mid 30's. He would be a circus boy who parents were killed just like they were in the comics, in a staged accident involving trapeze wires sabotaged by acid by the gangster Tony Zucco. He would be an extraordary athlete, and therefore acclimate quickly to the Batman's training regiment for him. Shortly after his placement with Bruce, he would begin sneaking out of Wayne Manor and traveling into Gotham City at night, looking for Tony Zucco. Several times he'd be caught by the Batman and sent home. Eventually, faced with the reality that Dick simply won't give up and needs to do something with his grief, the Batman will reveal his secret and give him the tools he needs to bring Zucco to justice. Fighting from the get-go against the Batman's decree that this is supposed to be just a one-time shot at Zucco and not an ongoing thing, he designs a costume for himself and adopts an alter ego so he can be the Batman's junior partner.

Robin's color scheme will be the same as in the comics (the original Tim Drake outfit, as worn by Dick Grayson in B:TAS, although darkened somewhat), for sentimental reasons to the character relating to his parents. The Batman will suggest using different colors and a different codename, suggesting that "Robin" isn't all that intimidating to violent criminals. Robin tells the Batman to give him a few weeks on the streets, and eventually it will be. Robin's ultra-fast moves will earn him a reputation as being untouchable, and just as ambiguously inhuman as the Batman himself.

I'm big on Batgirl. I had an idea for a TV show a while back that would be a cross between Smallville, Buffy, and Felicity. It would have Babs in college dealing with sappy love stuff, keeping her grades up, and fighting crime at night. Dick Greyson would be a character, classmate, but Batman and Robin would always be shot in the shadows. The show would have her going up against the Joker, Killer Moth and the likes of them, sometimes with the Caped Crusaders, sometimes with characters like the Black Cannery. Never thought out any stories just the concept. I'll have to finish my Batgirl/Spawn team up first in which Spawn is able to heal Barbara Gordons Paralysis.

Oh but the costume would be black on BG show.t:

Hopefully you don't mean the Cassandra Cain outfit. That would be some bull$hit right there.

Interesting idea. Thanks for posting.

 

[cujo66]

That was... a nice and respectable hobbywork. I like the costumes for the Batman (although I still believe a much darker tone of gray is more appropriate for a live action film) and Robin. Can't say I was too impressed with what Nightwing looked like. That's a situation where you really do need more than standard tights. I don't mean he needs rubber armor, or even padding; I'm talking about the shade of blue, quality of fabric and just how amateur it all looks.

Yes the Nightwing costume is pretty cheap looking, but the costume itself (in the comics) is a little bland, unless it's a pretty buffed dude in it, there's not much to make it look better. Hollywood can go ahead and twick that one a little.
And the film, as I stated before is a little poor in terms of acting, just used it as an example that the comic look can work.

Hopefully you don't mean the Cassandra Cain outfit. That would be some bull$hit right there.

Ah Hell No! never was a fan of that look, except when The Huntress first adapted it. Maybe because she was drawn as a knock out woman and not a teen.

No it's gotta be Babs Gordon version all the way.

Or a look like this would be good for me.

It would have to be something simple, almost spandex like. She's just starting out, she's put the outfit together herself, she doesn't have the resources of Batman yet. It's her only costume, it rips, she loses parts of it. She'd be hitting the sporting goods stores and Army surplus trying to find ways of perfecting it.
Part of the whole thing would be her trying to become a Caped Crusader, it wouldn't be she just shows up one night in a perfect fitting nomex survival suit, for women, and kicks but.

 

[Saint]

I thought about posting this in the Batsuit discussion thread, but frankly I don't want to deal with flood of "OMG TEH ROBIN BLOWXORS" responses.

Though my favourite Robin costume is the one presently worn by Tim Drake, I really love the loose tunic from the original costume. In film, I imagine the tunic as being a heavy flak jacket; thick body armour that Batman would make Robin wear. There would be no green: only black and red, with yellow only appearing on the symbol and belt (Unlike the current costume, there would be no yellow on the inside of the cape).

These may look similar, but there are some differences:

-The left suit is a loose-fitting long-sleeved jacket (red, obviously), with loose fitting black pants, black boots and black gloves.

-The suit on the right a loose, short-sleeved jacket on top of a full body black catsuit. The gloves and boots are part of the catsuit; it's seamless. I forgot to draw the horizontal; stitches on this one, so just imagine they're there (I love the stitches).

Arguably not appropriate for Nolan's franchise, but I think these would work great in the mythic, more fantastic franchise I have said I would like to see follow Nolan's films (I recall a rather length post in this topic about that).