Be Afraid...Be VERY afraid...Green Lantern Script Review

[Sardaukar]

I know you were pissed over what they did with Doom in F4 but this is much worse,none of it is remotely like the source

I disagree! This screenplay appears to have many of the core members of the Green Lantern Corps. It has Oa. The origin with Abin Sur is there. It even has the bloody Tchk-Tchkii. They're from the comic, aren't they? The only major difference from a canon standpoint is this Jud Plato character, but since the filmmakers are aiming for comedic value, isn't it better to have a new character for this flick rather than turn Hal Jordan or Kyle Rayner into idiots?

See, I can be an studio apologist too!

I'm beginning to like this!

 

[Hunter Rider]

I disagree! This screenplay appears to have many of the core members of the Green Lantern Corps. It has Oa. The origin with Abin Sur is there. It even has the bloody Tchk-Tchkii. They're from the comic, aren't they? The only major difference from a canon standpoint is this Jud Plato character, but since the filmmakers are aiming for comedic value, isn't it better to have a new character for this flick rather than turn Hal Jordan or Kyle Rayner into idiots?

See, I can be an studio apologist too!

I'm beginning to like this!

Oh please don't start the stupid labels again Sar,GL nowhere has ever been a goofball comedy or a parody as this script make him out to be,
Also the fact it isn't any of the main GL's clearly shows it isn't a GL movie so why call it that,the F4 movie was nowhere near this bad but i guess your bitterness is just to much

 

[dnno1]

...this Green Lantern script is like putting the Adam West version of Batman onscreen. major difference right there.

That was was done back in 1966 and I saw it at a drive-in theater when I was 5 years old. I think that the major difference here is that it was 40 years ago and it is a different culture that goes to the movies now (you don't see drive-ins too much anymore).

 

[Sardaukar]

I take it you don't read comics if you think that the FF is way off.
FF in the comics are lighthearted so the movie was almost on point. You can't compare this GL to FF because GL isn't a lighthearted comedy. The Thing and Human Torch have always had a funny relationship. Any

What's wrong with turning GL into a comedy? Superman Returns and Batman Begins were dark and heavy! I'm beginning to realize that it's time to lighten up these superhero franchises! Besides, I'm sure there will be lots of GL action to compensate for the light tone!

 

[dnno1]

Oh please don't start the stupid labels again Sar,GL nowhere has ever been a goofball comedy or a parody as this script make him out to be,
Also the fact it isn't any of the main GL's clearly shows it isn't a GL movie so why call it that,the F4 movie was nowhere near this bad but i guess your bitterness is just to much

The Joe Staton Stories and artwork were kind of comical back when Guy was GL and G'Nort was his sidekick.

 

[Sardaukar]

Oh please don't start the stupid labels again Sar,GL nowhere has ever been a goofball comedy or a parody as this script make him out to be,
Also the fact it isn't any of the main GL's clearly shows it isn't a GL movie so why call it that,the F4 movie was nowhere near this bad but i guess your bitterness is just to much

Why are you being so negative?

 

[Hunter Rider]

Why are you being so negative?

Sar is this some sort of getting your own back for those of us that supported F4 and it's nasty treatment of Doom ?

 

[Sardaukar]

The Joe Stanton Stories and artwork were kind of comical back when Guy was GL and G'Nort was his sidekick.

There ya go!

I wonder why they aren't putting Guy in the script then instead of Jud? That's okay, I trust WB!

 

[Hunter Rider]

The Joe Stanton Stories and artwork were kind of comical back when Guy was GL and G'Nort was his sidekick.

For the most part GL has been an epic sci fi story not a slapstick comedy,i wasn't awarwe of the run you are talking about but it's not exactly the barometer for GL work right ?

 

[dnno1]

What's wrong with turning GL into a comedy? Superman Returns and Batman Begins were dark and heavy! I'm beginning to realize that it's time to lighten up these superhero franchises! Besides, I'm sure there will be lots of GL action to compensate for the light tone!

I think it could be a bigger franchise if it were an Sci-Fi/Fantasy action drama. It would cater directly to Sci-Fi/Fantasy fans, which is a large market, and appease us comicbook fans as well. I can not deny that there have been some very good comedies written in the last 30 years, but I just think that going that route is rather risky and at best could turn out to be a 2 movie enterprise. Looking at successful genres like Star Wars and Star Trek and targeting that market leaves me no reason to believe that going that route could not lead to a successful franchise of multiple (more than three) films and, possibly, a television series.

 

[NHawk19]

GL wasnt meant to be a comedy. . . .Why do that and just destroy the fans that way. It not only hurts the movies side of WB but comic sales as well.

 

[dnno1]

For the most part GL has been an epic sci fi story not a slapstick comedy,i wasn't awarwe of the run you are talking about but it's not exactly the barometer for GL work right ?

No, I can't say that, but what can be said is that it is part of the so called source material (and so can be said of the Smigel script) and is free to be used by whomever chooses to write a story with.

 

[ShadowBoxing]

The only way to combat this really is, if it is greenlite, not to acknowledge it in any way (i.e. NO POSTING on a GL board).

Any message board posting is hype, and the old phrase is "any press is good press". So no creating a buzz for this at all costs.

You can b*tch about it now because nothing is confirmed. But if it is we just need to boycott the shiet out of it.

 

[ShadowBoxing]

The Joe Staton Stories and artwork were kind of comical back when Guy was GL and G'Nort was his sidekick.

Back in the 50s Batman used to smile so much I thought he lacked a nervous system...while that is "free to use" even today, you would not want to make a merry and somewhat homosexual Batman for your movies (*cough*B&R*cough*).

 

[dnno1]

The only way to combat this really is, if it is greenlite, not to acknowledge it in any way (i.e. NO POSTING on a GL board).

Any message board posting is hype, and the old phrase is "any press is good press". So no creating a buzz for this at all costs.

You can b*tch about it now because nothing is confirmed. But if it is we just need to boycott the shiet out of it.

I just don't agree with the term boycott because it has a lot of serious and moral implications to it (and I don't think this is all that serious since it is just fiction and a movie). Just leave it at letting your voice be heard by petitioning and ingnoring what you don't like. There is no need for any of us to make sacrifices over something we have no large stake in anyway.

 

[dnno1]

Back in the 50s Batman used to smile so much I thought he lacked a nervous system...while that is "free to use" even today, you would not want to make a merry and somewhat homosexual Batman for your movies (*cough*B&R*cough*).

I guess we were just to innocent in that period. Like I said before, it was a different culture back then.

 

[Sardaukar]

Sar is this some sort of getting your own back for those of us that supported F4 and it's nasty treatment of Doom ?

I used to be mad at Doom, but not just at Doom but at the whole treatment of the FF movie, but not just that. I used to be mad at X3, Catwoman, SR, Hulk, Daredevil, etc. I used to be mad at the world! But I'm done with that now! Like enlightened fans before me, I'm now going to embrace whatever we get! After all, aren't we lucky to be getting all these superhero flicks in the first place? I mean, your average FF comic had light touches, but was not the shallow, dumb farce like what we saw with the movie, but I've decided that I like shallow, dumb farces as long as they're fun! And FF was fun, as will this GL movie be! As long as it entertains me, as long as it throws me a few bones from the comic book, that's enough for my taste!

 

[Hunter Rider]

I used to be mad at Doom, but not just at Doom but at the whole treatment of the FF movie, but not just that. I used to be mad at X3, Catwoman, SR, Hulk, Daredevil, etc. I used to be mad at the world! But I'm done with that now! Like enlightened fans before me, I'm now going to embrace whatever we get! After all, aren't we lucky to be getting all these superhero flicks in the first place? I mean, your average FF comic had light touches, but was not the shallow, dumb farce like what we saw with the movie, but I've decided that I like shallow, dumb farces as long as they're fun! And FF was fun, as will this GL movie be! As long as it entertains me, that's enough for my taste!

Well if your happy with that type of one track thinking so be it but it belies your genereal intelligence,there are different degree's to these things but it's now all one pot for you

 

[Hunter Rider]

No, I can't say that, but what can be said is that it is part of the so called source material (and so can be said of the Smigel script) and is free to be used by whomever chooses to write a story with.

It's a very minute part and hardly the majority of the cannon

 

[Sardaukar]

Well if your happy with that type of one track thinking so be it but it belies your genereal intelligence,there are different degree's to these things but it's now all one pot for you

One track? Nay, but consistency! Not picking and choosing between franchises by saying "this one should be treated with respect, but not this one" and then picking some arbitrary reason why this is so. But that's okay, I have a new consistent position! The studios are always right! As long as a movie entertains, that's fine with me!

 

[Hunter Rider]

One track? Nay, but consistency! Not picking and choosing between franchises by saying "this one should be treated with respect, but not this one" and then picking some arbitrary reason why this is so. But that's okay, I have a new consistent position! The studios are always right! As long as a movie entertains, that's fine with me!

Now you are just being fasecous,F4 wasn't bastardized that badly IMO,Doom was but not the F4 themselves,this is just a complete mockery of GL if you see no line then so be it

 

[Sun_Down]

Why are people so upset about this? This is what happens when tragedies of cinema like Fantastic Four are praised to high heaven: "Oh it's just a fun movie, you're not supposed to take it seriously. It was pretty good for what it was." I hear that crap ad nauseum. The studios hear that crap too. Now WB will try for a shallow, low-budget superhero flick in the FF vein, one that they think will make them lots of money, but they'll use Green Lantern to do it. Fans asked for this, I hope they're happy.

There is no comparison between F4 and this disaster waiting to happen. I did not enjoy the F4 movie, but it was much, much closer to its comic roots than most people would like to believe. Yes, F4 could have been a light-hearted, family-oriented movie and been done a lot better, but it was in no way the same thing as this GL debacle. The Fantastic Four is a book that has always been light and somewhat comedic in nature, and the movie did reflect that. Again, I'm not saying it was a good movie by any means, but to say that it bastardized the characters the way this movie could is just ridiculous.

Nobody is saying to blindly trust the studio or saying that we're OK with this script. We're all saying the exact opposite, so don't put words in our mouths and quit being so condescending.

 

[SolidRoar]

Now you are just being fasecous,F4 wasn't bastardized that badly IMO,Doom was but not the F4 themselves,this is just a complete mockery of GL if you see no line then so be it

I think what Sardaukar means is that fans are leading the studios to that way of thinking. Making the genre more lighthearted and accessible, and cheaper to produce. Fantastic Four might not have been so bad, but the box office satisfactory for the studio leads them and others to take notice and the next thing you know, we get a slapstick comedy adaptation.

Frankly, I understand his frustration. I think what he says is that by supporting such impotent efforts, we - the fans - don't aspire the studios to do so much more with their properties to reach their true potential.

 

[Sardaukar]

There is no comparison between F4 and this disaster waiting to happen. I did not enjoy the F4 movie, but it was much, much closer to its comic roots than most people would like to believe. Yes, F4 could have been a light-hearted, family-oriented movie and been done a lot better, but it was in no way the same thing as this GL debacle. The Fantastic Four is a book that has always been light and somewhat comedic in nature, and the movie did reflect that. Again, I'm not saying it was a good movie by any means, but to say that it bastardized the characters the way this movie could is just ridiculous.

The FF comic is a lot less comedic than apologists like me seem to want to admit. I'm sure there are many instances of humour in GL comics that are ripe to be picked for this flick! For all we know, the final product will feature good, harmless FUN with a little drama and action to balance everything out! As many people constantly have told me (I don't know why I didn't listen to them before), we should see a film before we judge it! Give it a chance!

 

[dnno1]

It's a very minute part and hardly the majority of the cannon

Joe Staton wrote and drew Green Lantern in the mid to late 70's and late 80's. He also did the Guy Gardner and Green Lantern Corps titles back in the late 80's as well (I guess he's doing Scooby Doo nowadays). Staton has a sense of humor and you could see it in his work (just read his brief autobiography on the web). Even though compared to the 60-plus year history of GL you could say his runs were minute, Statons work was done at a significant period in the GL history (where characters like Jon Steward, Guy Gardner, and Katama Tui played significant roles in the GL universe), a significant period in DC history (Infintie Crisis), and did get exposed to a generation of readers that are considered potential movie goers today. Also, and once again, it is still part of the source material and is very much a part of the cannon and is free to the choosing of the writer to use.