Because I'm tired of this **** - Goku vs. Superman - The end of all polls

[SSJ4_Mikael]

You know that's garbage, Goku increasing his level is

1)A normal established part of Gokus power, thats like me saying Superman isn't allowed to fly. Sun dipping requires LEAVING the battlefield AND is NOT something Superman normally does. Infact he's only done it ONCE that I can think of while he already had super powers. ie Superman does not go off to fly into the sun every time a tough battle comes along. Its actually quite dangerous for him

Look, as a child Gokou could lift a ton.
As an adult he could lift 40 tons.
And we all know adult Gokou could kill his child version in 1 punch.
And he was just 40x as strong,pychical.
Supes is probobly trillions of times stronger, he just need a simple touch to win.

2)Goku could destroy the sun...if he wanted to
Ofcourse... that's even been stated in the manga...
Seru,Supa kanzentaini, stated that he could destroy the entire solar-system.

As for the speed we have these factors.
cannot move SoL.
- Enviorment is affected normally, which proves it's not in slomo.
- Boo couldent locate Dende in the same time he located every human on earth.
- It took Fruiza half an hour to get half across Namek.
can move SoL.
- can avoid blasts that reaches distant planet's in a ''instant''

 

[OMEGAVEGETTO]

Gokou lockaed Bejiita whithin the 5 second's Buu-han, gave him to fuse.
And shin Boo I is far better than Gokou ever was in the manga.

BtW. you don't know how long it took for the beam's, ray's. to reach space, since there aint stated. pure speculation

And I've already countered that with Buu's destroying enviorment by flyging pass them.

DBZ-SoS
Supes-SoL

Gokou would easiley die by 1 punch.
And he's too slow to dodge it.

DUDE YOUR CRAZY...VEGETA'S POWERLEVEL IS EASY TO TRACK, DENDE'S ISNT..THE BEAM THAT HIT THE MOON WAS ALMOST INSTANT AND THAT WAS AT POWERLEVEL 1200....SUPERMAN MAY RUN/FLY LIGHT SPEED BUT NOT FIGHT AT IT...GOKU WOULD DODGE HE EYE BEAMS WHICH ARE SIMILAR TO FREISA'S AND GOKU WOULD LET SUPERMAN PUNCH HIM AND SMILE AFTER IT. OH AND GOKU CAN U I.T IN THE FIGHT..SUPERMAN CANT TOUCH HIM THEN...AND DONT SAY HE HAS TO TOUCH HIS HEAD AND LOCATE A ENERGY SIGNATURE FIRST BECAUSE THATS NOT TRUE WHEN HES FIGHTING...PERFECT EXAMPLE... THE FIGHT AGAINST CELL AND THE KAMEHAMEHA BLAST...ANOTHER IS WHEN HE SAVED TIEN AND PICOLLO FROM CELL..OH AND WHEN HE FOUGHT METAL COOLER AS WELL

 

[D.Rex]

Wouldn't Goku's flight speed not even matter here considering he uses instant transmitition and teleports anywhere he wants in an instant?

 

[OMEGAVEGETTO]

You know that's garbage, Goku increasing his level is

1)A normal established part of Gokus power, thats like me saying Superman isn't allowed to fly. Sun dipping requires LEAVING the battlefield AND is NOT something Superman normally does. Infact he's only done it ONCE that I can think of while he already had super powers. ie Superman does not go off to fly into the sun every time a tough battle comes along. Its actually quite dangerous for him

Look, as a child Gokou could lift a ton.
As an adult he could lift 40 tons.
And we all know adult Gokou could kill his child version in 1 punch.
And he was just 40x as strong,pychical.
Supes is probobly trillions of times stronger, he just need a simple touch to win.

2)Goku could destroy the sun...if he wanted to
Ofcourse... that's even been stated in the manga...
Seru,Supa kanzentaini, stated that he could destroy the entire solar-system.

As for the speed we have these factors.
cannot move SoL.
- Enviorment is affected normally, which proves it's not in slomo.
- Boo couldent locate Dende in the same time he located every human on earth.
- It took Fruiza half an hour to get half across Namek.
can move SoL.
- can avoid blasts that reaches distant planet's in a ''instant''

CORRECTION..WHEN GOKU WAS AN ADULT, HE COULD LIFT A CITY...AND PROBABLY MORE IF THE GT WRITERS DIDNT MAKE HIM STRUGGLE WITH IT...BUT THAT IS PRETTY HEAVY LIFTING A CITY FROM ITS ROOTS...GOKU IN BASE FROM WASNT LIFTING 40TONS, HE WAS PUNCHING AND KICKING WITH 40 TONS...BIG DIFFERENCE...AND WHEN HE TRANSFORMED INTO THE WEAKEST SSJ LEVEL(WHICH IS STILL HIS OWN POWER) MADE IT LOOK LIKE HE WAS WEARING NOTHING...(FOR GOD SAKE, DID U SEE HOW FAST HE WAS PUNCHING IN THE AIR I MIGHT ADD) OH AND WAT ABOUT VEGETA WHO TRAINED IN 450X EARTHS GRAVITY BEFORE HE EVEN TURNED SSJ....FLYING, PUNCHING, KICKING, ENERGY BALLS THAT DONT DROP STRAIGHT TO THE GROUND...THIS IS SOME POWER...AND IF GOKU CAN DESTROY THE SOLAR SYSTEM WATS MAKE U THINK HE CANT TRAVEL FASTER THE SPEED OF LIGHT......HOW LONG DOES IT TAKE TO DO THAT? IF GOKU OR HIS POWERS CANT TRAVEL THE SOL THEN HE COULD NEVER DESTROY IT...HE WOULD DIE B4 HE COULD....AND IF SUPERMAN NEEDS A TOUCH TO WIN THEN WHY DIDNT HE SIMPLY TOUCH DOOMSDAY? WHO WOULDNT TOUCH GOKU...OR WHY DIDNT HE TOUCH ALL THE OTHER GUYS WHO SUPERMAN HAS LOST TO AND HAD TO TOUCH THE SUN TO DEFEAT?

 

[Guyverjay]

You know that's garbage, Goku increasing his level is

1)A normal established part of Gokus power, thats like me saying Superman isn't allowed to fly. Sun dipping requires LEAVING the battlefield AND is NOT something Superman normally does. Infact he's only done it ONCE that I can think of while he already had super powers. ie Superman does not go off to fly into the sun every time a tough battle comes along. Its actually quite dangerous for him

Look, as a child Gokou could lift a ton.
As an adult he could lift 40 tons.
And we all know adult Gokou could kill his child version in 1 punch.
And he was just 40x as strong,pychical.
Supes is probobly trillions of times stronger, he just need a simple touch to win.

2)Goku could destroy the sun...if he wanted to
Ofcourse... that's even been stated in the manga...
Seru,Supa kanzentaini, stated that he could destroy the entire solar-system.

As for the speed we have these factors.
cannot move SoL.
- Enviorment is affected normally, which proves it's not in slomo.
- Boo couldent locate Dende in the same time he located every human on earth.
- It took Fruiza half an hour to get half across Namek.
can move SoL.
- can avoid blasts that reaches distant planet's in a ''instant''

Thats the dumbest thing I've read on here. SS3J Goku only 40 times stronger than he was when he was 11 years old?


bwhahaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa

 

[SSJ4_Mikael]

CORRECTION..WHEN GOKU WAS AN ADULT, HE COULD LIFT A CITY...AND PROBABLY MORE IF THE GT WRITERS DIDNT MAKE HIM STRUGGLE WITH IT...BUT THAT IS PRETTY HEAVY LIFTING A CITY FROM ITS ROOTS...GOKU IN BASE FROM WASNT LIFTING 40TONS, HE WAS PUNCHING AND KICKING WITH 40 TONS...BIG DIFFERENCE...AND WHEN HE TRANSFORMED INTO THE WEAKEST SSJ LEVEL(WHICH IS STILL HIS OWN POWER) MADE IT LOOK LIKE HE WAS WEARING NOTHING...(FOR GOD SAKE, DID U SEE HOW FAST HE WAS PUNCHING IN THE AIR I MIGHT ADD) OH AND WAT ABOUT VEGETA WHO TRAINED IN 450X EARTHS GRAVITY BEFORE HE EVEN TURNED SSJ....FLYING, PUNCHING, KICKING, ENERGY BALLS THAT DONT DROP STRAIGHT TO THE GROUND...THIS IS SOME POWER...AND IF GOKU CAN DESTROY THE SOLAR SYSTEM WATS MAKE U THINK HE CANT TRAVEL FASTER THE SPEED OF LIGHT......HOW LONG DOES IT TAKE TO DO THAT? IF GOKU OR HIS POWERS CANT TRAVEL THE SOL THEN HE COULD NEVER DESTROY IT...HE WOULD DIE B4 HE COULD....AND IF SUPERMAN NEEDS A TOUCH TO WIN THEN WHY DIDNT HE SIMPLY TOUCH DOOMSDAY? WHO WOULDNT TOUCH GOKU...OR WHY DIDNT HE TOUCH ALL THE OTHER GUYS WHO SUPERMAN HAS LOST TO AND HAD TO TOUCH THE SUN TO DEFEAT?

He didn't exactly lift half a city, more like a piece of it, that was lose cause of the earthquake.
And then he were in SSJ4. And he couldnt hold it for the long.

Gokou could destroy the solar system, but it would be cause of the explotion.
In anime he would be even stronger (non-canon) since Burori could destroy galaxies.
And yes in the anime they do travel in SoL, but not in the manga.
We still await McGyver's proof. There Akira say's that they travel in SoL.

 

[Guyverjay]

How ironic that even if I had a link to give you, you're too daft to actually read it

 

[SSJ4_Mikael]

Thats the dumbest thing I've read on here. SS3J Goku only 40 times stronger than he was when he was 11 years old?


bwhahaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa

I ment in his base... 40 ton weights...
And not in chi, in phycichal stronger...
In chi he would been billion if not trillion of times stronger.
Gokou had a pl of 10, but could lift a car (aprox 1 ton) but that fatass with shotgun with pl 5 do you claim he could lift 500 kgs?

Phycichal he's not strong at all... But with his chi he can accomplish things even Prime can't.
Beside:
Gojiita SSJ4 > XiShenlon >> LiShenlon > Gokou infused with the dragonball's

 

[SSJ4_Mikael]

How ironic that even if I had a link to give you, you're too daft to actually read it

Do your part, and expect me to do mine....

 

[SSJ4_Mikael]

Wouldn't Goku's flight speed not even matter here considering he uses instant transmitition and teleports anywhere he wants in an instant?

As I proved before, he used it on Seru but he wasent fast enough to se were Seru was so it was kinda useless...
Otherwise he wouldnt have any enemies after the fRUIZA SAGA.

 

[Guyverjay]

I ment in his base... 40 ton weights...
And not in chi, in phycichal stronger...
In chi he would been billion if not trillion of times stronger.
Gokou had a pl of 10, but could lift a car (aprox 1 ton) but that fatass with shotgun with pl 5 do you claim he could lift 500 kgs?

Phycichal he's not strong at all... But with his chi he can accomplish things even Prime can't.
Beside:
Gojiita SSJ4 > XiShenlon >> LiShenlon > Gokou infused with the dragonball's

Wow you are so confusing

Ps unless the power level was stated in the maga, it means nothing. The world guides power levels weren't even written by Toriyama

 

[Guyverjay]

Do your part, and expect me to do mine....

Again you prove your stupidity as I've already stated twice (this is the third) that I have no link to give you

So I put to you again even if I posted a link you would not even read it and would no doubt still be asking for it lol

 

[SSJ4_Mikael]

Again you prove your stupidity as I've already stated twice (this is the third) that I have no link to give you

So you have no proof then... What a pity, you're bad at lying.

 

[SSJ4_Mikael]

Only pl stated in the manga (Fruiza saga- vs. Fruiza)
Fruiza: 530,000
each time he transform 2x incresse.
Fruiza 2nd form: 1,060,000 - He stat that he's over a million.
Fruiza 3rd form: 2,120,000
Final Fruiza: 4,240,000
Gokou base keeped up with Fruiza
Final Fruiza >/= Gokou base.
Fruiza powered up 50% >/= Gokou KaiOken 20
So he was fighting at 2,5% against the others and Gokou before powering up.

 

[Harlekin]

We still await McGyver's proof. There Akira say's that they travel in SoL.

McGyver needs no proof!

 

[OMEGAVEGETTO]

I ment in his base... 40 ton weights...
And not in chi, in phycichal stronger...
In chi he would been billion if not trillion of times stronger.
Gokou had a pl of 10, but could lift a car (aprox 1 ton) but that fatass with shotgun with pl 5 do you claim he could lift 500 kgs?

Phycichal he's not strong at all... But with his chi he can accomplish things even Prime can't.
Beside:
Gojiita SSJ4 > XiShenlon >> LiShenlon > Gokou infused with the dragonball's

AND REALLY THATS ALL THAT MATTERS..SUPERMAN=MORE STRENGTH GOKU=EVEN MORE POWER AND SKILL

 

[SSJ4_Mikael]

AND REALLY THATS ALL THAT MATTERS..SUPERMAN=MORE STRENGTH GOKU=EVEN MORE POWER AND SKILL

I dont think Superman would survive a powerful blast from Gokou, and i don't think Gokou would survive a hit from Superman.
It's a matter of who strikes first, and I belive Supes is faster.

 

[OMEGAVEGETTO]

I dont think Superman would survive a powerful blast from Gokou, and i don't think Gokou would survive a hit from Superman.
It's a matter of who strikes first, and I belive Supes is faster.

NOT AS FAST? I.T. IS WELL INSTANT...CELL IS AS FAST AS IT AT SHORT DISTANCES BUT SSJ3 WOULD RUN LAPS AROUND CELL AND GOKU HAS TAKEN PUNCHES HARDER THAN SUPERMANS....HOW MANY OF SUPERMANS ENEMIES HAS HE PUNCHED THAT DIDNT GET HURT BY IT...DOOMSDAY 4 1 AND GOKU WOULD DESTROY DOOMSDAY WITH HIS BLAST...GOKU HAS TAKEN BLASTS THAT COULD DESTROY PLANETS SO WHY CANT HE TAKE A HIT FROM SUPERMAN...AND I KNOW SUPERMAN HAS TAKEN BLASTS JUST AS STRONG...SO WAT IT REALLY COMES DOWN TO IS SKILL AND GOKU HAS MORE

 

[Jplaya2023]

NOT AS FAST? I.T. IS WELL INSTANT...CELL IS AS FAST AS IT AT SHORT DISTANCES BUT SSJ3 WOULD RUN LAPS AROUND CELL AND GOKU HAS TAKEN PUNCHES HARDER THAN SUPERMANS....HOW MANY OF SUPERMANS ENEMIES HAS HE PUNCHED THAT DIDNT GET HURT BY IT...DOOMSDAY 4 1 AND GOKU WOULD DESTROY DOOMSDAY WITH HIS BLAST...GOKU HAS TAKEN BLASTS THAT COULD DESTROY PLANETS SO WHY CANT HE TAKE A HIT FROM SUPERMAN...AND I KNOW SUPERMAN HAS TAKEN BLASTS JUST AS STRONG...SO WAT IT REALLY COMES DOWN TO IS SKILL AND GOKU HAS MORE

because he likes to make up things that superman can do to hurt goku.

 

[Warhammer]

because he likes to make up things that superman can do to hurt goku.

 

[dnno1]

...GOKU HAS TAKEN BLASTS THAT COULD DESTROY PLANETS SO WHY CANT HE TAKE A HIT FROM SUPERMAN...

I thought Goku died after Cell blew up King Kai's planet.

 

[OMEGAVEGETTO]

I thought Goku died after Cell blew up King Kai's planet.

AND SUPERMAN DIED BY GETTIN THE CRAP BEAT OUT OF HIM

 

[Ultra-Herald9]

DUDE YOUR CRAZY...VEGETA'S POWERLEVEL IS EASY TO TRACK, DENDE'S ISNT..THE BEAM THAT HIT THE MOON WAS ALMOST INSTANT AND THAT WAS AT POWERLEVEL 1200....SUPERMAN MAY RUN/FLY LIGHT SPEED BUT NOT FIGHT AT IT...GOKU WOULD DODGE HE EYE BEAMS WHICH ARE SIMILAR TO FREISA'S AND GOKU WOULD LET SUPERMAN PUNCH HIM AND SMILE AFTER IT. OH AND GOKU CAN U I.T IN THE FIGHT..SUPERMAN CANT TOUCH HIM THEN...AND DONT SAY HE HAS TO TOUCH HIS HEAD AND LOCATE A ENERGY SIGNATURE FIRST BECAUSE THATS NOT TRUE WHEN HES FIGHTING...PERFECT EXAMPLE... THE FIGHT AGAINST CELL AND THE KAMEHAMEHA BLAST...ANOTHER IS WHEN HE SAVED TIEN AND PICOLLO FROM CELL..OH AND WHEN HE FOUGHT METAL COOLER AS WELL

Dude stop acting like you know about supes. Supes can fight at super speed quite well and has done things that even the DBZ gang hasn't done like prying open the blocking arms and punching the belly of the imperiex probe so fast that it looked like the thing was jumped by four supermans. And there is NO way he could shrug off a blow from Supes saying this would mean that Goku could shrug off a blow from an SSJ4 at least.

 

[Ultra-Herald9]

CORRECTION..WHEN GOKU WAS AN ADULT, HE COULD LIFT A CITY...AND PROBABLY MORE IF THE GT WRITERS DIDNT MAKE HIM STRUGGLE WITH IT...BUT THAT IS PRETTY HEAVY LIFTING A CITY FROM ITS ROOTS...GOKU IN BASE FROM WASNT LIFTING 40TONS, HE WAS PUNCHING AND KICKING WITH 40 TONS...BIG DIFFERENCE...AND WHEN HE TRANSFORMED INTO THE WEAKEST SSJ LEVEL(WHICH IS STILL HIS OWN POWER) MADE IT LOOK LIKE HE WAS WEARING NOTHING...(FOR GOD SAKE, DID U SEE HOW FAST HE WAS PUNCHING IN THE AIR I MIGHT ADD) OH AND WAT ABOUT VEGETA WHO TRAINED IN 450X EARTHS GRAVITY BEFORE HE EVEN TURNED SSJ....FLYING, PUNCHING, KICKING, ENERGY BALLS THAT DONT DROP STRAIGHT TO THE GROUND...THIS IS SOME POWER...AND IF GOKU CAN DESTROY THE SOLAR SYSTEM WATS MAKE U THINK HE CANT TRAVEL FASTER THE SPEED OF LIGHT......HOW LONG DOES IT TAKE TO DO THAT? IF GOKU OR HIS POWERS CANT TRAVEL THE SOL THEN HE COULD NEVER DESTROY IT...HE WOULD DIE B4 HE COULD....AND IF SUPERMAN NEEDS A TOUCH TO WIN THEN WHY DIDNT HE SIMPLY TOUCH DOOMSDAY? WHO WOULDNT TOUCH GOKU...OR WHY DIDNT HE TOUCH ALL THE OTHER GUYS WHO SUPERMAN HAS LOST TO AND HAD TO TOUCH THE SUN TO DEFEAT?

Dude apparently you need to pick up some comics before you talk trash. The higher the power level means more destructive energy not faster energy. And Doomsday has a little ability called INVUNERABILITY which makes him highly resistant to attacks. Is your last statement even serious? There are people who are tougher than Supes so he sometimes powers himself up to try to defeat his opponent.

 

[Ultra-Herald9]

AND SUPERMAN DIED BY GETTIN THE CRAP BEAT OUT OF HIM

For the last time Doomsday can easily kill a kryptonian because he can bypass their bioelectric auras which means Supes durability was nearly cut in half when he fought Doomsday and he still fought and killed Doomsday who was at his peak invunerability which is a testament to Superman's strength. Goku has never fought an opponent he has had a serious handicap against and plus Superman apparently wasn't even supposed to die in that battle since he only perished due to Superboy-Prime messin up reality.