In two weeks, Daniel Radcliffe will end his critically acclaimed (and full-frontal) role in Broadways Equus and start filming his final installment as the boy wizard, Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows. This June, Harry Potter and the Half-Blood Prince comes to theaters, and if the new trailer is any indication, it will be Radcliffes darkest and most violent turn as young Harry yet. The Daily Beasts Kevin Sessums caught up with Radcliffe last week for afternoon tea at the Algonquin Hotel in New York before the actor heads to the latest Hogwarts set.
Happy Martin Luther King Day.
Thank you. You too.
On Tuesday Barack Obama becomes our new president. We happen to be seeing each other in a very American week. Does it make you feel overly British to be here right now, or less so?
I feel privileged to be here for Obamas inauguration. But I do tend to go doubly British when I am away from home. I have picked up certain phrases while here in America that I plan to eradicate as soon as I get back home.
Examples?
I knowright? That phrase and its little rhythm there is very American and not really used in England. Ive started saying that and people are picking up on it when they come over. But getting back to Mr. Obama. I am so proud and happy for this country. He is everything the rest of the world liked about America and now likes again. He is both Martin Luther King and JFK. He is a pioneer. He is a symbol of progress which is what we dig about this country. What you love about England is all the old buildings and such. The traditions. I love that, too. But this is what we want from you.
Britain beat us at having a female leader. But could such a thing happen in Englanda black man being elected as prime minister. Or how about a Pakistani?
I think that will be the next thing to happen. It will happen with an Asian guy before it happens with a black guy. I dont know why that is, but English politics is just so overly white. Its very much about the class structure. And particularly with the Labour Party being like it is. New Labour now. Its so upper class, really. I mean you cant criticize people for being born upper class, but that does seem to be the trend, and you just really feel you need somebody to go in and really shake things up. The thing is this is what my generation in England misses in politics and what America has just gained through this fantastic man, Barack Obama. We dont have a figure we can all get behind. The parties in England are now so close together that people my age feel it doesnt matter who they vote for because its going to be the same group of people basically in government. I mean, look at the last London mayorial election: The reason Boris Johnson got in is simply because he hosted Have I Got News for You a few times, which is an English satirical show. It was a vote for celebrity. But during that election, I was the only person I knew my age who voted. Not one of my friends even registered.
Going back to the possiblity of a Pakistani prime minister, what is your take on Prince Harry being caught using the term Paki on the old videotape that surfaced? Are you a royalist?
No. I am not a royalist. Not at all. I am definitely a republican in the British sense of the word. I just dont see the use of the monarchy though Im fierce patriot. Im proud proud proud of being English, but I think the monarchy symbolizes a lot of what was wrong with the country. Not that theyre doing anything wrongbut that symbol of class division is not something I particularly like. And I am a very upper-middle-class kid. I have nothing against the royals as people. Ive never met them. But in terms of that particular comment about Pakistanis, Prince Harry said a very stupid thing. He was probably very young at the time. I hope he has learned since not to say such a thing or at least learned not to be filmed saying it. The big deal to me was his wearing a Nazi uniform at that costume party.
Your mother is Jewish. Do you identify as Jewish yourself?
Absolutely. I really do. My dad is Northern Irish and my mum is Jewish. Thats working blood. Though I am not religious in the least, I am very proud to be Jewish.
That should help you fit in here in New York. Are you ready for the run of Equus to end?
Im going to be very sad. The Harry Potter films brought me a reputation. And doing Equus in London and now in New York has consolidated that and brought me a certain amount of respect. It will always be my first experience on the stage.
What will be your second? Will it be a musical? I saw you do your satirical dance number at the Gypsy of the Year contest with your chorus line of horses from Equus. It was so charming, especially the Rockettes kickline ending you came up with.
I would like to do a musical. Very much. Its just a matter of finding the right one
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Whats it been like working in the small bower world of the theatre? Its a very different environment than film. Much more collegial and camp and...well, lets face it...gay.
And for a lot of straight guysand I know Im guilty of it sometimeswhen you know a gay guy has a crush on you it is the most flattering thing.
Forgive me, but to be politically incorrect here, Ive seldom met a straight actor who is not a *** hag. Are you?
Oh, yeah. I know I definitely caught it. Absolutely. My mom was a casting director and my dad was a literary agent and I was surrounded by gay men from a very young age. And I was the only boy in my class at school who had that kind of relationship with gay men. Most of my friends had parents who had proper jobs in banks and law firms so none of them had been exposed to homosexuality in the way I hadas a normal course of things. So they had a rather different attitude toward it than I.
Theyd just bugger each other.
Well, I didnt go to a boarding school if thats what youre getting at. Thats one thing Harry Potter has done if nothing else. It has restored the reputation of the English boarding school. It has made it something other than a hotbed of homosexuality. Every time a new Harry Potter book comes out, the numbers at English boarding schools go up.
There is a whole genre of literature that centers on the orphaned. Your first role at nine was David Copperfield. Theres Oliver Twist. Jane Eyre. Faulkners Light in August. Almost every superhero. Whats your theory as to why the genre is so enduring since Harry is perhaps the most famous orphan in all of literature?
I suppose its because we love the underdog. I saw James Carville talking on television and he said a fantastic thing. It was during the last days of John McCains campaign. I got hooked on political coverage during the campaign. I love that Joe Scarborough chap. Do you watch Morning Joe? I quite like him. What is it he says? American by luck. Southern by the grace of God. Thats great phrase-making.
But back to Carville and orphans. He said that McCain should come out as the underdog. He said Americans love an underdog, but they hate a loser. And for an orphan, from the earliest, most basic, most primitive part of your life, things have gone against you. Everything we know about how people work and are successful, in the conventional sense, starts with family. So the notion is for that to be taken out of the picture one has to work doubly hard to achieve things. It is odd that almost every role Ive played has been a kid who comes from a screwed-up family background because I have had such the opposite of that.
You are an only child who attained worldwide fame at a very early age. Fame itself has become a presence in your life. Im sure you have a love/hate relationship with it. In that sense, did fame become your sibling?
Its not so much the fame thing as it is the person you are when you are in front of an audience or, well, being interviewed.
So you have become your own sibling?
I guess in a way, yeah because you develop two personas. Its not even a conscious thing. Something happens. Like when I did Inside the Actors Studio. Adrenalin hits you and your mind starts working very, very fast. People always say to me, Oh, youre so funny in interviews. And I go, Well, Im not really in real life particularly. Thats what fame does to you. You acquire another self.
You suffer from dysplaxiawhich is a kind of physical dyslexia. Rote physicality is difficult for you to comprehend. How has that affected you as an actor?
I have a very mild form of it. Ive gotten it mostly under control now. I played a lot of videogames as a kid which really helped it. It basically surfaces as bad coordination. Another example of it is how terrible my handwriting is because I can never quite tell when the pen is going to land on the page.
As for the emotional technique to acting, I read that you were a big fan of the poet John Keats.
Exactly. The biggest.
I was wondering if his theory of negative...
...capability.
Yes. Do you use Keats theory of negative capability in your approach to acting? He came up with the theory after seeing Shakespearethat the deepest truths are found in uncertainty and doubt and mystery and not in the irritating reach for fact and reason.
Absolutely. Youve found me out. The truth is to be found in the things that are not certain and not solid and not easy and not simple. Keeping your childlike attitude is important too. Having a sense of wonder about everything in the world. Harnessing that wonder is what acting is about.
One of the main themes of the Harry Potter books is the loss of innocence. Has there been a parallel loss of innocence in your own life as the films made you such a star?
There hasnt been such a loss of innocence in my own life. Theres nothing more fun than being a 13-year-old kid on a film set. Its fantastic. But thats the difference between star systems in America and England. Kids stars in America are treated like stars first and kids second. But in England youre just treated like a kid. Youre always being told dont get too big for your boots. Thats why Ive been able to maintain a relatively level head through it all.
Who are you reading now? I know that youre a big reader.
Im being really indulgent at the moment and reading P.G. Wodehouse. Lots of Jeeves and Wooster.
Thats the saddest thing youve said all day. You really are homesick, arent you.
I am. Just this morning I was listening to Noel Coward singing, I went to a MAAAAAAVELOUS party with Nunu and Nada and Nell...
I thought you liked punk rock.
Yes. Well. Thats what being abroad has done to me.
One last question. Have you shagged Dame Diana Rigg yet?
Not yet. Though I long for it to happen, I still await the day.
Its been nice meeting your sibling, Daniel.
I knowright?