Ben Affleck To Team With DC’s Geoff Johns On Standalone ‘Batman’ Film - Part 3

[Resistance61513]

Moviepilotnews or whatever they're called are reporting that "The Batman" is also getting a page one rewrite. I've been looking everywhere online and the only thing reported is by Forbes. Forbes is credible to a certain degree but, to another, they are constantly out of touch in regards with certain industries.

I've gone a few pages back in this thread but haven't seen anything about a rewrite.

 

[Greenlite]

Check the Hollywood reporter, or my post

 

[Greenlite]

Any chance this movie begins filming this year?

I wouldn't be too concerned whether they start this year or next, 2019 is the release year anyway, as long as they start by April next year.

 

[Resistance61513]

Check the Hollywood reporter, or my post

Awesome, thanks Green.

 

[Boom]

Right now we have conflicting reports about the script's status. Either way, it stands to reason that Reeves would do some work on it.

 

[Greenlite]

Awesome, thanks Green.

 

[Infinity9999x]

Right now we have conflicting reports about the script's status. Either way, it stands to reason that Reeves would do some work on it.

Yep. Honestly, I do think how the next few DCEU films are received is going to have a major impact on this film. Regardless of the reports that Ben and WB are happy with the script, I find it somewhat suspect, since he said that he would leave the project (as a director) if the script wasn't ready. And he left. It seems a bit odd that not more than two weeks after he steps out they're saying they're all very happy with the script.

Regardless of what the truth is, it certainly seems like they're scrambling, and that they have no clear plan. Which is how the movies have felt since MOS really. I hope they get their house in order, but at this point, I honestly wouldn't be surprised if Affleck leaves the project entirely within the next year.

 

[mclay18]

Any chance this movie begins filming this year?

Variety said considering how quickly WB secured Reeves, they will start filming at the end of the year. And it also seems like the guy is a relatively quick shooter -- Rise and War only took 3-4 months of shooting.

So if production goes similarly to Reeves' previous two films, they'll start filming fall 2017, wrap in winter 2018, and complete the film for a spring 2019 release.

 

[metaphysician]

I can understand that some people here don't have faith in the team of David Goyer, Zack Snyder and Charles Roven.

But not having any faith for Geoff Johns, Chris Terrio, Ben Affleck, Matt Reeves and Jon Berg is puzzling.

It depends on whether you think the core problem is Snyder and company, or the execs above him. Which. . . well, there's arguments both ways, but Suicide Squad does strongly suggest that Snyder is not the sole source of problem, at least.

Wonder Woman will probably provide some more evidence, one way or another. If its legitimately good, then the execs are at least manageable and its mostly Snyder's fault. If its the same old crap? Then the rot goes to the top.

 

[2kt09]

It depends on whether you think the core problem is Snyder and company, or the execs above him. Which. . . well, there's arguments both ways, but Suicide Squad does strongly suggest that Snyder is not the sole source of problem, at least.

Wonder Woman will probably provide some more evidence, one way or another. If it's legitimately good, then the execs are at least manageable and its mostly Snyder's fault. If it's the same old crap? Then the rot goes to the top.

The same execs/producers along with "Snyder and co" are indeed involved with the next two.
It won't be until Aquaman that the management difference will be of significant note.

 

[Boom]

Yeah. Silverman oversaw WW and JL.

Wonder Woman has been put into such a hard spot. So many expectations now. And for all this to be put on the character's first feature film is very distressing.

 

[mclay18]

Snyder exec produced WW (doesn't mean anything apart from a one-time fee and on-screen credit) and co-wrote the story treatment. But he didn't tell Patty Jenkins how to do her job, how the action scenes should be filmed and cut, or what composer she should hire.

Wonder Woman looks very promising and totally different than Snyder's films. Ditto for James Wan and Reeves.

 

[BlueLanternKal]

It depends on whether you think the core problem is Snyder and company, or the execs above him. Which. . . well, there's arguments both ways, but Suicide Squad does strongly suggest that Snyder is not the sole source of problem, at least.

Wonder Woman will probably provide some more evidence, one way or another. If its legitimately good, then the execs are at least manageable and its mostly Snyder's fault. If its the same old crap? Then the rot goes to the top.

I love it how people get off on thinking they know how things operate behind closed doors.

 

[FunkMiller]

It depends on whether you think the core problem is Snyder and company, or the execs above him. Which. . . well, there's arguments both ways, but Suicide Squad does strongly suggest that Snyder is not the sole source of problem, at least.

Wonder Woman will probably provide some more evidence, one way or another. If its legitimately good, then the execs are at least manageable and its mostly Snyder's fault. If its the same old crap? Then the rot goes to the top.

I'm extremely critical of Snyder's approach in MoS & BvS, but I know damn well that ultimately the fault must lie further up the chain with people who allowed him free rein, with no oversight from a Kevin Feige-like figure.

Same goes for SS, to a certain extent, although a lot of issues with that film were as a direct result of the cock up made with BvS.

I hate Snyder's take - but the man did what he wanted to do, and had a clear vision. He cannot be blamed or criticised for making the film according to that vision.

There should have been someone to keep him in check, so he stayed truer to the source material. I think we'd have had a decent movie if that had been the case.

 

[2kt09]

Snyder exec produced WW (doesn't mean anything apart from a one-time fee and on-screen credit) and co-wrote the story treatment. But he didn't tell Patty Jenkins how to do her job, how the action scenes should be filmed and cut, or what composer she should hire.

Wonder Woman looks very promising and totally different than Snyder's films. Ditto for James Wan and Reeves.

Snyder's listed as producer.
Wonder Woman does look very promising and I enjoy the fact it doesn't seem that off from what Snyder established. There's not nearly enough to judge for James Wan's take on Aquaman let alone Reeves's who is still just in the signing process.

Same goes for SS, to a certain extent, although a lot of issues with that film were as a direct result of the cock up made with BvS.

So, more or less the opposite of what goes for BvS.

There should have been someone to keep him in check, so he stayed truer to the source material. I think we'd have had a decent movie if that had been the case.

Meh.

I expect Matt Reeves to stick to what he enjoys most of the IP like Nolan did and craft a take that's unique to his sensibilities hopefully without straying so far from what's been established. DotPotA worked as well it did because there were certain elements retained from RotPotA whilst he got to put his own spin.

 

[shauner111]

Snyder exec produced WW (doesn't mean anything apart from a one-time fee and on-screen credit) and co-wrote the story treatment. But he didn't tell Patty Jenkins how to do her job, how the action scenes should be filmed and cut, or what composer she should hire.

Wonder Woman looks very promising and totally different than Snyder's films. Ditto for James Wan and Reeves.

WW still has that slow motion in there, which reminds me of Snyder unfortunately. Gal still needs to convince me that she is a good enough actress to not only lead her own film, but to even hold her own in a scene with dialogue.

How do you know that about Patty not being told what to do or who to hire?

I'm extremely critical of Snyder's approach in MoS & BvS, but I know damn well that ultimately the fault must lie further up the chain with people who allowed him free rein, with no oversight from a Kevin Feige-like figure.

Same goes for SS, to a certain extent, although a lot of issues with that film were as a direct result of the cock up made with BvS.

I hate Snyder's take - but the man did what he wanted to do, and had a clear vision. He cannot be blamed or criticised for making the film according to that vision.

There should have been someone to keep him in check, so he stayed truer to the source material. I think we'd have had a decent movie if that had been the case.

Well, if he had free reign to do what he wanted, then he should take a lot of the blame (along with the studio for not having somebody there to keep him in check). It's still his vision, and he should take responsibility. Especially if nobody forced him to go in that direction. He's a big boy, he knows they were trying to set up a shared universe, and he blew it. That's on him, even more so than WB's executives.

 

[Kane52630]

Snyder exec produced WW (doesn't mean anything apart from a one-time fee and on-screen credit) and co-wrote the story treatment. But he didn't tell Patty Jenkins how to do her job, how the action scenes should be filmed and cut, or what composer she should hire.

Wonder Woman looks very promising and totally different than Snyder's films. Ditto for James Wan and Reeves.

Yeah because Suicide Squad did great without any Snyder involvement.

 

[Greenlite]

Snyder had free reign until the editing room =P

WB was a "director driven studio" then turned into Sony's Spidey studio and cocked up the SS editing.

The biggest hit WB took from the critics was editing, that's inexcusable, and at least Patty doesn't have to deal with the same exec that meddles with the editing during her post production.

 

[shauner111]

Yeah seriously. They made him butcher his own film in the editing room.

I personally don't think he had free reign because they desperately wanted to get going on the Justice League members. Regardless, his Ultimate Cut is something he stands by and is proud of. So we shouldn't put all the criticisms on the studio.

 

[FunkMiller]

Yeah because Suicide Squad did great without any Snyder involvement.

Arguably, Snyder's mistakes with BvS led to the 'course corrections' with SS that probably ruined it. So you could say he's responsible for its failures by proxy.

Yeah seriously. They made him butcher his own film in the editing room.

I personally don't think he had free reign because they desperately wanted to get going on the Justice League members. Regardless, his Ultimate Cut is something he stands by and is proud of. So we shouldn't put all the criticisms on the studio.

It's probably six of one, half dozen of the other, really. The WB suits screwed up by hiring him, he screwed up by making a poor movie. Neither are blameless. The issue is the culture that's going on over there, and whether its one Reeves will want to be a part of.

 

[jmc]

The whole debacle is from a combination of things really. The biggest crock of **** was the whole 'director driven' crap. You can't do director driven in a universe that's suppose to have an overarching connection. You need someone overseeing that.

 

[Jekecy]

You can't do director driven in a universe that's suppose to have an overarching connection.

It's possible, but all the directors would have to be in on the plan from the get-go. Scheduling alone, especially that far ahead, makes it extremely difficult.

 

[Benal]

WW still has that slow motion in there, which reminds me of Snyder unfortunately. Gal still needs to convince me that she is a good enough actress to not only lead her own film, but to even hold her own in a scene with dialogue.

How do you know that about Patty not being told what to do or who to hire?

Well, if he had free reign to do what he wanted, then he should take a lot of the blame (along with the studio for not having somebody there to keep him in check). It's still his vision, and he should take responsibility. Especially if nobody forced him to go in that direction. He's a big boy, he knows they were trying to set up a shared universe, and he blew it. That's on him, even more so than WB's executives.

When did Snyder use slo-mo in the last couple of years? I wish Patty had %1 of his skill with action, because her slo-mo looks terrible.

Arguably, Snyder's mistakes with BvS led to the 'course corrections' with SS that probably ruined it. So you could say he's responsible for its failures by proxy.

Again with this? You had THR telling you that the movie was a hot mess and WB saw an opportunity to make some moeny with a marketing campaign aimed at teens after the first trailer generated so much buzz.

 

[idiot09]

When did Snyder use slo-mo in the last couple of years?

Zack didnt use any slow motion in MOS. He mostly used slowmotion in the dream sequences of BvS, and they were not over-used at all.

 

[shauner111]

BvS had slow mo.