Ben Affleck To Team With DC’s Geoff Johns On Standalone ‘Batman’ Film - Part 4

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[Web-Head]

I think the best way to do a soft reboot is some sort of Flashpoint.

 

[shauner111]

They should just do some weird timeline mindf**k and bring back Bale, and have him be Batman in this universe with the same costume design and Batfleck history lol. Take that Affleck.

 

[FunkMiller]

They should just do some weird timeline mindf**k and bring back Bale, and have him be Batman in this universe with the same costume design and Batfleck history lol. Take that Affleck.

Well, he would be a younger Batman t:

 

[Greenlite]

Ha, he'd be like, WTF happened to my Joker?

 

[Boom]

Unless we get a press release stating that Affleck has left the film, all we can really do is take him at his word. I know people are hung up on him contradicting himself on Kimmel, but I don't know what people are expecting. Is WB supposed to issue a statement every week saying, "Hey, guys. New week. Ben Affleck is still playing Batman."

He has already said that he remains fully committed to the project, that he's going to focus on his performance, and that he's going to collaborate with the new director. There is nothing more he or WB can do to combat these rumors about him leaving - save for them announcing that he is actually leaving.

Long story short, we could very well be dealing with this ******** back-and-forth for months, if not an entire year. And that's incredibly disappointing. Because under any other circumstances, Matt Reeves directing a Batman movie would have me running around my apartment shirtless. Now? How could anyone get too excited about this when the entire narrative surrounding this movie is "What the **** is going on?" Will Affleck stick around? Will he leave? Are they happy with the script? Are they starting from scratch? The constant exchange of contradicting rumors is just... numbing. Matt ****ing Reeves potentially directing a Batman film, and I can barely enjoy it because of all of this nonsense. And even him directing is a maybe at this point.

Frustrating to say the least. I'm very curious what made Reeves decide it's worth the hassle, if he does sign on.

 

[shauner111]

My money is on him doing The Batman and then saying goodbye. I don't think Justice League 2 is in the cards, unless they do it without Batman which would be weird considering the size of the threat coming to earth..

 

[Rorschach2012]

If Affleck leaves, Gyllenhaal is by far the best choice

God if Affleck is leaving let's just recast Joker too

 

[shauner111]

Jake for Joker and Batman.

 

[Rorschach2012]

Bale with the Affleck voice changer and the Affleck suit tailored to Bale would make Baleman unbeatable

All that Affleck has over Bale is the costume and voice

 

[Boom]

What happens if The Batman just kills at the box office and plays well with critics? Would he change his tune about playing the role in further solo films?

Also, it's going to be super awkward if JL2 doesn't happen, considering the whole point of Steppenwolf is to set up Darkseid and Apokolips.

Steppenwolf: "Darkseid is coming. You're all doomed!"
The End. Forever.

Cool! Thanks guys!

 

[Rorschach2012]

The other day I was sitting in my car at school just reminiscing about the old days. The Hype was so exciting in between Nolan Batman movies. God, remember the speculation about TDKR's villains? Fun times

I like BVS but the DCEU has drained my enthusiasm I used to have. We had it good with Nolan.

I have my criticisms of Nolan (mostly with TDKR, **** John Blake, and I wish Nolan would've created a universe where the other DC characters could have existed) but those were some undeniably good movies

The foundation of the DCEU is very weak. A reboot would not be out of the question. I like the DCEU but there's no question that those movies have not even come close to reaching their potential. Snyder was not the guy.

 

[OutOfBoose]

What happens if The Batman just kills at the box office and plays well with critics? Would he change his tune about playing the role in further solo films?

What tune? I don't remember uncle Ben saying anything about the future of the franchise.

 

[misslane38]

My money is on him doing The Batman and then saying goodbye. I don't think Justice League 2 is in the cards, unless they do it without Batman which would be weird considering the size of the threat coming to earth..

If a Justice League sequel takes the next step and introduces Darkseid, then just have Darkseid kill Batman in a situation roughly analogous to the events of Final Crisis.

 

[Infinity9999x]

The other day I was sitting in my car at school just reminiscing about the old days. The Hype was so exciting in between Nolan Batman movies. God, remember the speculation about TDKR's villains? Fun times

I like BVS but the DCEU has drained my enthusiasm I used to have. We had it good with Nolan.

I have my criticisms of Nolan (mostly with TDKR, **** John Blake, and I wish Nolan would've created a universe where the other DC characters could have existed) but those were some undeniably good movies

The foundation of the DCEU is very weak. A reboot would not be out of the question. I like the DCEU but there's no question that those movies have not even come close to reaching their potential. Snyder was not the guy.

This is more or less how I feel. The hype I had between the Nolan movies was insane. Now, to be fair, part of that may simply have been where I was in life. I was 16 when BB came out, and I had just graduated high school when TDK did, so I was at an age when I was more invested in films. I still am now, but when you have to worry about paying bills and making rent, obsessively following every aspect of a film's development just doesn't seem as important as it once did.

That aside, the overall take of the current DCEU has really killed my enthusiasm. I don't think Synder was the right guy, but even beyond that, it's been pretty apparent they had no real plan. Everything they've done since MOS reeks of throwing everything at the wall and seeing what sticks.

I honestly hope they get their house in order. Despite being weighed down by a cruddy script, I saw the potential for Ben to deliver a great Batman. I'd love to see him with a good script that really understands the Batman character.

 

[Boom]

What tune? I don't remember uncle Ben saying anything about the future of the franchise.

My post was operating under the assumption that he wants out.

 

[Greenlite]

Frustrating to say the least. I'm very curious what made Reeves decide it's worth the hassle, if he does sign on.

A fresh start? t:

They kinda brought this on themselves, Ben saying point blank on JKL that he's directing Batman when he could have asked him not to ask the Q.

Mark Hughes always say stuff like "I'll believe his words" etc and he expressed his regret and doubt now.

They better make an official statement before/around the middle of the year so this "will he won't he" nonsense won't carry into JL. Reeve's gotta start his story/re-write whatever after Apes release too, so Ben better make up his mind, if he stays, release a statement "Reeves and Affleck collaborating about such and such story with xyz villains" or "Reeves has a new vision and Affleck in support"

My money is on him doing The Batman and then saying goodbye. I don't think Justice League 2 is in the cards, unless they do it without Batman which would be weird considering the size of the threat coming to earth..

I heard his contract is BvS, JL part 1 and 2, either way if he appears in The Batman then he's completed his deal.

If Affleck leaves, Gyllenhaal is by far the best choice

What happens if The Batman just kills at the box office and plays well with critics? Would he change his tune about playing the role in further solo films?

Also, it's going to be super awkward if JL2 doesn't happen, considering the whole point of Steppenwolf is to set up Darkseid and Apokolips.

Steppenwolf: "Darkseid is coming. You're all doomed!"
The End. Forever.

Cool! Thanks guys!

JL2 will probably happen after BatCU, RockCU, GLCU etc are all established and going well, then the team up JL2 will be a bigger event.

 

[OtherwiseKnownAs]

The other day I was sitting in my car at school just reminiscing about the old days. The Hype was so exciting in between Nolan Batman movies. God, remember the speculation about TDKR's villains? Fun times

I like BVS but the DCEU has drained my enthusiasm I used to have. We had it good with Nolan.

I have my criticisms of Nolan (mostly with TDKR, **** John Blake, and I wish Nolan would've created a universe where the other DC characters could have existed) but those were some undeniably good movies

The foundation of the DCEU is very weak. A reboot would not be out of the question. I like the DCEU but there's no question that those movies have not even come close to reaching their potential. Snyder was not the guy.

Well to be fair, the marketing campaign for TDK is still unparalleled to this day. It is easily the most hyped I had even been for a film before.

 

[The Shape]

Long story short, we could very well be dealing with this ******** back-and-forth for months, if not an entire year. And that's incredibly disappointing. Because under any other circumstances, Matt Reeves directing a Batman movie would have me running around my apartment shirtless. Now? How could anyone get too excited about this when the entire narrative surrounding this movie is "What the **** is going on?" Will Affleck stick around? Will he leave? Are they happy with the script? Are they starting from scratch? The constant exchange of contradicting rumors is just... numbing. Matt ****ing Reeves potentially directing a Batman film, and I can barely enjoy it because of all of this nonsense. And even him directing is a maybe at this point.

In fairness, much of this "What the **** is going on?" narrative has been created and perpetuated by all kinds of contradictory reports/rumors/opinions from outside sources -- bloggers, "scoopers", speculators, fans, etc -- rather than from things we know for certain are happening within the production itself.

The biggest and most official "WTF" moment came after Affleck had been saying he's on board to direct the film upon being hounded by questions about it for the past year, only to recently announce he would no longer be directing. And even then, he provided a seemingly legitimate reason for stepping down from that role, claimed he remains committed to the project as an actor/producer, and that he was searching for a collaborator to come on board and work with him on this.

Not even 2 weeks later, it was reported that Matt Reeves would (all but certainly) be coming on board to direct The Batman, which should have been a very positive sign and lines up with what Affleck had publicly announced. And yet, there is still a negative spin surrounding this news among the fan community and some of those other sources/outlets.

Frustrating to say the least. I'm very curious what made Reeves decide it's worth the hassle, if he does sign on.

It definitely is frustrating for some of us fans, who are trained to expect a steady flow of information coming from these projects and want to be reassured that "everything is awesome". However, this is a project that is just beginning to come together. Even if Affleck were still directing, he had only finished up with all his Live By Night **** a few weeks ago and we still wouldn't be getting a huge wave of information about the film at this point. With any film that is this early in its production timeline, possibly several months to a year from shooting, we don't always have "all the answers" about the inner-workings of the production or its scripting process at this stage of the game.

As for what made Reeves decide it's worth the hassle to take on this film, he might feel that it isn't a hassle at all because this project isn't experiencing the crazy levels of inner-turmoil and behind-the-scenes drama that many people claim it is. And beyond that, he may be very excited for Affleck/WB's vision for what this film could be and is happy to have the opportunity to take a crack at it. We really have no idea what the deal is.

Furthermore, even if he feels that making this film will be a challenge, that doesn't mean it isn't a challenge worth accepting. The key to life is accepting challenges, and a challenging production will only make him feel that much more satisfied and rewarded if he's able to knock this out of the park.

Plus, imagine passing on the opportunity to direct a huge Batman movie and to become a part of the Batman legacy, and then living the rest of your live wondering what could have been.

 

[shauner111]

If a Justice League sequel takes the next step and introduces Darkseid, then just have Darkseid kill Batman in a situation roughly analogous to the events of Final Crisis.

Ouuu i like that a lot. Realistically, that makes a lot of sense because Bruce is the one human on the team, with no superpowers. I mean, the guy could barely hang with Doomsday. So i can see Darkseid killing him in the beginning of the film. That could be a huge way to start that sequel. Superman by then is back, and he's the leader. The only thing that would suck is not having a Justice League, or any movie where Bats and Supes are a team.

Or maybe Matt Reeves can pull off the ballsiest of moves, and kill Batfleck at the end of his solo film. That would be crazy. I just don't like the idea of killing off a character just because an actor doesn't want to continue. It's very soap opera-ish.

Bale with the Affleck voice changer and the Affleck suit tailored to Bale would make Baleman unbeatable

All that Affleck has over Bale is the costume and voice

I don't care for Affleck's voicebox, but it's a good idea. I just wished it sounded different, not as robotic. Bale with that suit, and a voice that was somewhere between the voicebox and his natural voice would be great.

What happens if The Batman just kills at the box office and plays well with critics? Would he change his tune about playing the role in further solo films?

Also, it's going to be super awkward if JL2 doesn't happen, considering the whole point of Steppenwolf is to set up Darkseid and Apokolips.

Steppenwolf: "Darkseid is coming. You're all doomed!"
The End. Forever.

Cool! Thanks guys!

It would be a lot like the end of Amazing Spider-Man 2, where they got so confident that they were setting up a Sinister Six movie

The other day I was sitting in my car at school just reminiscing about the old days. The Hype was so exciting in between Nolan Batman movies. God, remember the speculation about TDKR's villains? Fun times

I like BVS but the DCEU has drained my enthusiasm I used to have. We had it good with Nolan.

I have my criticisms of Nolan (mostly with TDKR, **** John Blake, and I wish Nolan would've created a universe where the other DC characters could have existed) but those were some undeniably good movies

The foundation of the DCEU is very weak. A reboot would not be out of the question. I like the DCEU but there's no question that those movies have not even come close to reaching their potential. Snyder was not the guy.

It was really fun. And spirits were so high because of TDK.

 

[Pants Under Underpants]

Why do people always fancast actors from movies and shows they just watched, despite being so incredibly wrong for the part?

Gyllenhaal doesn't have the chin, and his eyes are too close together for the bat mask unless they give him the white lenses to hide his goofy-a$$ face. He's a great actor, but no f****ing thank you to him as Batman.

 

[Greenlite]

Jake was on the list since 2004...
...and it's more than just the look...acting's the most important part.
You can CGI the chin and use make ups to change the face if general audiences care about the face...

 

[idiot09]

One baseless scoop and everyone loses their mind. Not saying it's improbable, but it's highly premature to discuss now.Oh well, gotta keep the "DCEU doomed" narrative going.

 

[OutOfBoose]

Why do people always fancast actors from movies and shows they just watched, despite being so incredibly wrong for the part?

Gyllenhaal doesn't have the chin, and his eyes are too close together for the bat mask unless they give him the white lenses to hide his goofy-a$$ face. He's a great actor, but no f****ing thank you to him as Batman.

Because that's the nature of all fan-castings. Typecast your favorite actor or favorite recent performance based on appearance.