Best action sequence in any comic book adaptation!!!!

[Rich Santoro]

That was a good one, but I prefer the part I posted on page 2, because it's one continuous camera shot with no cuts. I think that's pretty cool.

That was good... I just get annoyed at April beating up ninjas.

 

[Obi-Ron]

Yes, well there is that.

 

[OsGom]

I've been thinking about this and probably the entire end of spiderman 1 has had me the most entertained. Even though it had the cliche 'bad guy winning then good guy gets second win' trollocks, it did really well with the suspense of the tram hold and the fact spidey was able to save both the tram and mj in one swoop.

I can't believe you're disrespecting TIH & SM2 and this travesty is your favorite action sequence!

The Gobby battle might have been the worst supervillain battle in any superhero movie. I rank it right up there with Ghostrider vs. Blackheart as a 9.5 in disappointment factor. Okay mybe not that bad but still pretty diappointing.

 

[November Rain]

TIH is a joke. Total damage caused by them is one crashed helicopter, one halved car, one broken window and one cracked ceiling. ang's hulk caused more damage on a INDIVIDUAL rampage. Let's not even go into the whole choke thing.

sm2 has ock with an adamantium jaw, anyone who is mildly interested in spidey has read asm 3, a real ock/spidey encounter would have spidey spending the entire film trying to land one crucial blow.

 

[Chewy]

TIH is a joke. Total damage caused by them is one crashed helicopter, one halved car, one broken window and one cracked ceiling. ang's hulk caused more damage on a INDIVIDUAL rampage. Let's not even go into the whole choke thing.

This is one of the most ridiculous things I have ever read.

Hulk wasn't on a rampage, he was fighting Abomination. He was focusing his force on Abomination. If he had knocked down a couple of buildings, the fight would have been better? Give me a ****ing break.

 

[Kirk Langstrom]

sm2 has ock with an adamantium jaw, anyone who is mildly interested in spidey has read asm 3, a real ock/spidey encounter would have spidey spending the entire film trying to land one crucial blow.

Which would have bored the mainstream audience, y' know like 90% of the people who spent time and money seeing the movie, to tears....

Directors have been taking liberties with these movies practically since they began in order to sell them to the summer crowd. Doesnt mean hardcore fans cant enjoy them as well. Take X-Men for example, no way in hell should Mystique have been any sort of a physical match for Wolverine, yet she nearly defeated him in personal combat, and it made for an exciting movie, dont you agree?

 

[The Joker]

Which would have bored the mainstream audience, y' know like 90% of the people who spent time and money seeing the movie, to tears....

Exactly!

Also, Doc Ock's tentacles were different to the comics. They were A.I., and they were wired into Ock's brain and central nervous system via his spinal chord. So they could have prevented him from losing consciousness.

For example, in the hospital massacre scene, right after the carnage is over, Ock suddenly awakens, and one of the tentacles gently removes the bandage from his eyes. It's like they willed him awake after the violence was over.

 

[kedrell]

1. Hulk vs. Abomination
2. Iron Man vs. Iron Monger
3. Slaughter truck sequence in TDK
4. Spider-Man vs. Doctor Octopus on the train

In that order.

 

[kedrell]

This is one of the most ridiculous things I have ever read.

Hulk wasn't on a rampage, he was fighting Abomination. He was focusing his force on Abomination. If he had knocked down a couple of buildings, the fight would have been better? Give me a ****ing break.

Actually I was kinda hoping for something like that, but I guess it didn't fit into the budget. Thankfully, their both still alive and an even better fight in the future is possible.t:

 

[Chewy]

Sure, it would have been nice, but to state that its absence had any effect on the quality of the film or that the fight was a "joke" because of it is ridiculous.

 

[November Rain]

Which would have bored the mainstream audience, y' know like 90% of the people who spent time and money seeing the movie, to tears....

Ah cap, ya know asm 3 is one of the gems of the entire spiderman history, there's nothing boring about that comic at all.

The story was somewhat adapted into 'armed and dangerous' as well as the doctor octopus first volume of ULtimate spiderman. Neither of those stories come across as boring either.

Spiderman hit goblin like 10 times in the entire first film and he's superhuman with armour. ock got well over fifteen direct hits to the face when aunt may was in mortal peril and he still didn't go down, the same dude who was casually knocking out gangs of humans while striking poses for a camera.

The suspense with a confrontation with ock is a real time chess match of spidey and ock both using their intellect to counteract each other while spidey waits patiently for the right opportunity to present itself

look at magneto in the first x-men film, he got nailed with one optic blast all the way through, his portrayal was far from boring.

besides, you don't have superhero films where the hero is downtrodden the whole way through, which is actually the whole point of spiderman, the hero who walks away from fame and fortune to be downtrodden for no real incentive other than it's the right thing to do. The film missed this essence.

Directors have been taking liberties with these movies practically since they began in order to sell them to the summer crowd. Doesnt mean hardcore fans cant enjoy them as well. Take X-Men for example, no way in hell should Mystique have been any sort of a physical match for Wolverine, yet she nearly defeated him in personal combat, and it made for an exciting movie, dont you agree?

Mystique vs Wolverine isn't on this list for that same reason and there are multiple posters on this very thread whom have complained about wolverine's fighting prowess outside of his cage fight scene.

up till that point we hadn't seen wolverine take out multiple gangs and humans with no stress but struggle to knock out a fat old man.

 

[November Rain]

This is one of the most ridiculous things I have ever read.

Hulk wasn't on a rampage, he was fighting Abomination. He was focusing his force on Abomination. If he had knocked down a couple of buildings, the fight would have been better? Give me a ****ing break.

The hulk wasn't on a rampage in the first film either, he was simply trying to get to betty and put down everything that tried to stop him (without totally harming the soldiers).

If you read the script and the preview stuff, they promised the world, massive damage in downtown on the scale you haven't seen, fights in malls, cars been thrown everywhere, escalators being used as whips, bones being drawn out and used as knives from abomination, A physical representation of the hulk getting stronger by getting leaner and more ripped, a TEN MINUTE FULL SLUG MATCH, THE BOUT TO HOLD ALL BOUTS.

What we got was

hulk kicked and winded
car bashing against abomination which made no difference
hulk kicked again and winded
about 2 minutes of helicopter hanging (yay)
some rooftop pushing and shoving
abomination's leg gets trapped and he hits HIMSELF over the head with the rope thing knocking himself down
hulk strangling him


W...T...F?

the downtown fight in superman 2 was on a much bigger scale and that's just sad. How can a film 20 years your senior have a much more epic fight?

again, i've seen better fights on angel and buffy.

Considering the WHOLE film was advertised around this confrontation and they showed the best bits of it already on the internet, i was devastated.

 

[OsGom]

the downtown fight in superman 2 was on a much bigger scale and that's just sad. How can a film 20 years your senior have a much more epic fight?

again, i've seen better fights on angel and buffy.

Considering the WHOLE film was advertised around this confrontation and they showed the best bits of it already on the internet, i was devastated.

First off, I don't believe the whole film was advertised around this confrontation.

Secondly, your definition of an "epic fight" leaves something to be desired.

Superman 2? Hardly a punch was thrown. Just a bunch of super beings blowing air and throwing girders and manhole covers at each other. Great for it's time but epic? Not IMO.

I don't think the Abomination vs. Hulk was the best action sequence but certainly better than your choices.

Spiderman? The ridiculous and cliche heroes choice scenario followed by a few seconds of Spiderman in half a mask getting his ass handed to him before the Goblin kills himself. I liked the film but hardly an epic battle. Where is the chase through the city? Where is the staple spider tow?

At least the train battle with Doc Ock was well coreographed and exciting. Maybe SM should have been able to take him with one punch but that detail certainly didn't ruin the moment for me or many other fans. It seems to me many more less probable things occur in the actual comics than took place in SM2. So if you are looking to the books for realism I think you should look someplace else.

 

[November Rain]

The ock fights and the whole of spidey 2 accurately showcases that most fans aren't really fans and are happy to lap up what's infront of them regardless of what is shown.

I've seen hulk comic fans happy even though the entire film is based off a highly inaccurate tv series

I've seen spidey fans deeply enraged about organics but happy to have spidey's powers turn on and off powered by mj's love.

I've seen ock fans delighted even though ock was controlled by the tentacles, he got ordered around by harry and got jumped and heavily beaten by spidey in every encounter, unable to defeat him on his own merit and having to use a speeding train to weaken him.

i've seen batman fans who watch the dark knight, a film very much different from all comic sources of any of the main characters but a good story nonetheless, who are happy to throw away 90% shred of the comic idols persona for a good film.


so for me, a fan's opinion does not hold much water when the dust settles, we ultimately take what we're given and the studios still make money.

abomination and the hulk could have been kissing behind a bus stop and you'd still get people saying it was the greatest fight of all time.

 

[Kirk Langstrom]

Ah cap, ya know asm 3 is one of the gems of the entire spiderman history, there's nothing boring about that comic at all.

No one's saying there IS.

However, a direct translation from a comic with a total of about 24 panels of action to a major motion picture aimed at an audience that couldn't care less about ASM #3 would probably not be the smartest move Sam could have made...

Nor does it take away from the fact that the scene Sam DID give us completely kicks ass, and is considered by many to be the best action scene in any comic book movie to date.

 

[November Rain]

I'm not saying directly translate the fight, ultimate spiderman or spidey tas didn't directly translate it.

I'm saying translate the essence of it.

The pupil vs teacher aspect
The agility and speed vs genius and planning
the greatest superhero game of cat and mouse

the aspect that ock could be knocked out at any time gives so much more suspense to it, spidey getting pummelled to just get that one good punch in.

Those are the things which make an encounter with ock so special especially when spidey is using quips or playing with his ego to try and put him off.

Those are all the things that make a spidey/ock encounter. Those are the things asm 3 had and i wanted translated.

the train fight had none. It was just a showcase of choeography & cgi, kinda like the burly brawl.

A fight that lacks emotion and suspense is not a fight worth watching.

 

[Obi-Ron]

They could have easily thrown in a line about Doc Ock's cybernetic computer "boosting his adrenaline to superhuman levels," or something like that. Oh well, they didn't, but that's the explanation I'm going with. Do I get a No-Prize?

If you read the script and the preview stuff, they promised ....A physical representation of the hulk getting stronger by getting leaner and more ripped

"The madder Hulk gets the skinnier he gets?" Who wants to see that?

 

[November Rain]

no no prize.

not skinny, leaner as in carrying less body fat, he becomes a walking bulk of muscle

there was some concept art from awhile ago but it's best to ask some regular on TIH for the specifics.

it was a welcome change for many who didn't want to see him grow but also wanted it fairly obvious he was getting stronger.

 

[Obi-Ron]

not skinny, leaner as in carrying less body fat.

Oh OK. I still want my No Prize though!

 

[broblacksteel]

november, good point about the superman 2.... If a character doesnt have to be all cgi for a fight i think the audience can get into it more... example... if thor is filmed like lord of the rings, there can be a LOT of physical battles that do not need cgi (vickings, multiple warriors etc).... of course lightning, cracking the ground or a whirlwind at the end of a hammer strike is a must...

i just wish chris nolan cared more for batman's FIGHT scenes, the chases and explosions are nice...BUT lets see ol bat throw down since he is the best at hand to hand combat... Pull back the damn camera and let us SEE it... sighs.. rant over...

 

[Kirk Langstrom]

I'm not saying directly translate the fight, ultimate spiderman or spidey tas didn't directly translate it.

I'm saying translate the essence of it.

The pupil vs teacher aspect
The agility and speed vs genius and planning
the greatest superhero game of cat and mouse

the aspect that ock could be knocked out at any time gives so much more suspense to it, spidey getting pummelled to just get that one good punch in.

Those are the things which make an encounter with ock so special especially when spidey is using quips or playing with his ego to try and put him off.

Those are all the things that make a spidey/ock encounter. Those are the things asm 3 had and i wanted translated.

the train fight had none. It was just a showcase of choeography & cgi, kinda like the burly brawl.

A fight that lacks emotion and suspense is not a fight worth watching.

You're saying the train scene in SM2 lacked suspense and emotion?

Wow...we're going to have to agree to disagree on THAT one.

 

[Kirk Langstrom]

november, good point about the superman 2.... If a character doesnt have to be all cgi for a fight i think the audience can get into it more... example... if thor is filmed like lord of the rings, there can be a LOT of physical battles that do not need cgi (vickings, multiple warriors etc).... of course lightning, cracking the ground or a whirlwind at the end of a hammer strike is a must...

i just wish chris nolan cared more for batman's FIGHT scenes, the chases and explosions are nice...BUT lets see ol bat throw down since he is the best at hand to hand combat... Pull back the damn camera and let us SEE it... sighs.. rant over...

Agreed. Batman is supposed to be one of the best un-armed combatants in comics, yet that's the one aspect of the character Nolan completely skimps on.

 

[Chris Wallace]

Best action sequence in any Comic book adaptation!!!!

Of all comic book adaptations in movies which would you say was the best and most accurate depiction of a comic book character in an action sequence regardless of how you feel about the movie as a whole?

 

[Obi-Ron]

Good scene... but put the damn mask on, Macguire!

 

[Chris Wallace]

It's excusable if the damn mask catches on fire.

You want him to look like Two-Face?