Drama Better Call Saul! - Breaking Bad Spinoff A Go At AMC - Part 1

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‘Breaking Bad’ Saul Goodman Spinoff A Go At AMC, Will Serve As Prequel To Original
By NELLIE ANDREEVA

Breaking Bad‘s Saul Goodman will live on at AMC. After lengthy negotiations, the cable network and Breaking Bad producer Sony Pictures TV have reached a licensing agreement for a spinoff from Vince Gilligan‘s acclaimed drama series. The spinoff series, tentatively titled Better Call Saul, had been in the works for months. It centers on one of Breaking Bad‘s most recognizable supporting characters, Bob Odenkirk‘s unflappable criminal lawyer Saul Goodman. Conceived by Breaking Bad creator Gilligan and series writer-producer Peter Gould, who created the Saul character together for a Season 2 episode written by Gould, the spinoff will be be a one-hour prequel that will focus on the evolution of the Goodman character before he ever became Walter White’s lawyer, AMC said. The network wouldn’t elaborate on the project’s status, but I’ve learned Better Call Saul has a series order pending the complication of Sony TV’s deals with Gilligan, Gould and Odenkirk. The pact between AMC and Sony TV came after talks between the two sides came down to the wire, with other outlets, including Netflix, which has had huge success with Breaking Bad, very interested in snatching the spinoff series.

The title of the spinoff comes from the original Saul episode of Breaking Bad, titled “Better Call Saul”, in which Walt (Bryan Cranston) and Jesse (Aaron Paul) hire the flamboyant Goodman after Badger (Matt L. Jones) is caught by the DEA. Goodman, who has been a regular presence on the show since, is a sleazy but highly competent criminal lawyer with a penchant for over-the-top TV commercials in which he uses his signature tagline “Better Call Saul!” Saul has served as Breaking Bad‘s comic relief, which is not surprising given Odenkirk’s strong comedy background. While houlong, the spinoff is expected to be be far less dark than the original series, with more comedy infused into it.

Gilligan has been high on the idea for over a year. “I would love to see a Saul Goodman spinoff,” he said in a July 2012 interview. “I like the idea of a lawyer show in which the main lawyer will do anything it takes to stay out of a court of law. He’ll settle on the courthouse steps, whatever it takes to stay out of the courtroom. That would be fun — I would like that.”
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"Don't" has to be Gus, it's definitely his style.

Chuck's move with their mother was some nasty business that automatically propelled him into irredeemable territory. Short of a confession, which I doubt we'll ever see, Chuck damned himself with that. I did like the clever way they revealed it was a flashback too!
 
On one of the early Better Call Saul Insider podcasts this season, Vince said it was goal to make make Chuck a lot more likeable this season. I think he failed miserably. :hehe:
 
I did like the clever way they revealed it was a flashback too!

The filter gave it away. They use the same filter anytime we see a flashback

On one of the early Better Call Saul Insider podcasts this season, Vince said it was goal to make make Chuck a lot more likeable this season. I think he failed miserably. :hehe:

I don't think he's any more likable, but I do understand him more. Scenes like Jimmy having dinner with Chuck and his wife, the scene with his mother, and learning more about their childhood made me understand why he's so bitter about Jimmy.
 
nice season finale, definitely agree that the "Don't" was from gus
 
even with tape jimmy can just say he was doing it to make him feel better
 
So this is basically two shows for the price of one: Better Call Saul and The Mike Show.
I couldn't be happier. I wonder how long will they be able to keep them separated. I mean, how long has it been since Mike was with Saul?
 
Mike and Saul had about 2 minutes of screentime together all season. The last time they shared a scene was when Mike was telling the cops he changed his story, I think.
 
I don't think he's any more likable, but I do understand him more. Scenes like Jimmy having dinner with Chuck and his wife, the scene with his mother, and learning more about their childhood made me understand why he's so bitter about Jimmy.
I agree with this. Honestly, most of the time when Chuck and Jimmy argue, it's actually Chuck that's in the right.

The story about Jimmy skimming from the tills in particular showed how from's Chuck's perspective, he's always been the only one that can see through Jimmy's BS.

And when Chuck's mom ignored him on her deathbed? If you didn't feel sorry for Chuck there, you never will.
 
So why on earth didn't Gus just call Mike and tell him not to attack Hector, the way he did Hank in BrBa? He's lucky that no one heard the horn going off.

I'm seriously done with Chuck and his whole storyline. I wish he'd died in the store. Do we need to see his resentment of Jimmy play out over and over? At this point Jimmy's looking like a dope for constantly taking care of the brother who clearly hates his guts.

And the writers should've had Jimmy taking shadier clients instead of more old people. I'm tired of that as well.

Season 2 started strongly but otherwise it's mostly been a misfire.
 
The filter gave it away. They use the same filter anytime we see a flashback

I was thinking the same thing. :up:

I'm seriously done with Chuck and his whole storyline. I wish he'd died in the store. Do we need to see his resentment of Jimmy play out over and over? At this point Jimmy's looking like a dope for constantly taking care of the brother who clearly hates his guts.

Do you not have siblings?

As for the horn thing, I'm admittedly not sure about that one. My thinking right now is that maybe, since it's 2003, cell phones aren't as big yet. I know Mike has one, but I don't know. I'm guessing they had an internal explanation in the writers' room but it's just not explained in the show itself.
 
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idk, i loved the first season but for some reason this season didn't do it for me. it was honestly boring as hell and i hate to say that ( it's a complaint i've heard against breaking bad numerous times , and that STILL surprises me to this day because that show pulls you in from like episode 1 . ) , but that's just how i felt on it , and y'all can rag all me all you want and say some condescending crap like how the show's " too smart " for me or that i should go watch transformers or something , but i really don't care. it seems like it's only truly exciting when tuco appears and he apparently only shows up like once per season. even in breaking bad's earlier , more " boring " seasons, they still had great finales . there's just no excuse . not even the " YEAH WELL THIS ISN'T BREAKING BAD SO DEAL WITH IT " excuse. it's by the same writers. we know they can do better than this.

it's also heavily focused on mike this time around . and i love mike, but they might as well just rename the show " mike does some stuff " with the amount of attention paid to him .
 
Thanks. And even with all that being said , I'll still continue watching it , because DJ khaled once told me " you smaht, you loyal" so I live my life by that philosophy and am as loyal as can be to this universe.

And now that its confirmed that Gus will be in the series soon, then I definitely can't leave now, haha
 
idk, i loved the first season but for some reason this season didn't do it for me. it was honestly boring as hell and i hate to say that ( it's a complaint i've heard against breaking bad numerous times , and that STILL surprises me to this day because that show pulls you in from like episode 1 . ) , but that's just how i felt on it , and y'all can rag all me all you want and say some condescending crap like how the show's " too smart " for me or that i should go watch transformers or something , but i really don't care. it seems like it's only truly exciting when tuco appears and he apparently only shows up like once per season. even in breaking bad's earlier , more " boring " seasons, they still had great finales . there's just no excuse . not even the " YEAH WELL THIS ISN'T BREAKING BAD SO DEAL WITH IT " excuse. it's by the same writers. we know they can do better than this.

In my experience most of the people in the Misc TV Series forum are actually pretty nice. Note, for example, the post immediately after yours.
 
I really liked the episode, but I feel like the previous episode would've been a better finale, this episode felt more like a season premiere than a season finale to me.
 
In my experience most of the people in the Misc TV Series forum are actually pretty nice. Note, for example, the post immediately after yours.

this i noticed . one has to be prepared for such things on the internet, however . especially IMDB , lol.
 
Chuck might be more two faced than Walter White. Lawd.
 
Do you not have siblings?

I have several. If one of them were as nasty and burdensome to me as Chuck is to Jimmy I would wash my hands of them and move on. It's not like Chuck will be alone, anyway. He's got HHM to look after him.
 
I have several. If one of them were as nasty and burdensome to me as Chuck is to Jimmy I would wash my hands of them and move on. It's not like Chuck will be alone, anyway. He's got HHM to look after him.
Hm, I see.

Yeah, I mean, there has to be a breaking point with Jimmy and I'm guessing this is it.
 
I agree with this. Honestly, most of the time when Chuck and Jimmy argue, it's actually Chuck that's in the right.

The story about Jimmy skimming from the tills in particular showed how from's Chuck's perspective, he's always been the only one that can see through Jimmy's BS.

And when Chuck's mom ignored him on her deathbed? If you didn't feel sorry for Chuck there, you never will.

They're both very flawed, complicated people. And Chuck is far more like his brother than he would ever admit. He conned the con artist. I felt sorry for him at the beginning of the episode with the great shot of him on the gurney being, as he felt, tortured. But at the end of the episode with the recorder reveal, I thought he had lost any shred of decency because he turned against his own family. Then again, Jimmy did first with the copier scheme.

You're right that Chuck has never been wrong necessarily. And he always works within the law, unlike Jimmy. But his antipathy toward his brother exacerbates Jimmy's less than admirable qualities. I get why Chuck does what he does and why he feels they way he does, but his attitude is still reprehensible.
 
Given that he's even able to practice law as Saul Goodman, the only thing Chuck will be accomplishing by trying to prey on Jimmy's conscience is ensuring that he won't let that get in the way again. I don't care if Jimmy's already on a sketchy path, it's Chuck's actions that will pave the way for Saul.
 
My thoughts about the season finale...

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The wait for season 3 is going to be tough.
 

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