Bigfoot

[QuiGonJosh]

I am BigFoot...I wear an 18-size shoe...

 

[Brodie Bruce]

Originally posted by Truthteller
Sasquatch is the more proper name.

The likelyhood is that an unknown primate could indeed exist in North America. Take into account that the Mountain Gorilla in Africa was not confirmed untill the early 1900s, and was said to be an imaginary critter before then.

Check this out: http://www.bfro.net/GDB/newadd.asp

ah, one who is informed. I was worried Sasquatch would confuse some of these lesser beings

 

[Truthteller]

Has anyone else ever heard this animal call?

http://bfro.net/AVEVID/MJM/Scream.wav

 

[spiderrasmon]

BIG-FOOT!!! and the Muscle Machines!!!

 

[Truthteller]

Originally posted by spiderrasmon
BIG-FOOT!!! and the Muscle Machines!!!

Not that BIGFOOT rasmon! Although that one is dang cool. Sasquatch man!

 

[The Incredible Hulk]

Originally posted by spiderrasmon
BIG-FOOT!!! and the Muscle Machines!!!

"They're big, bad, dirty, and MEAN!!"

 

[Clerk]

I ate a piece of a Big Foot once at a party.

 

[Truthteller]

Report # 2393 (Class A)
Submitted by witness David K. on Thursday, March 09, 2000.
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A group of military police report an encounter while guarding a chopper accident site
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YEAR: 1985
SEASON: Summer
MONTH: September
STATE: Georgia
COUNTY: Lumpkin County
LOCATION DETAILS: The location was northwest of Dalonega, Ga about 5-6 miles in the Chatahoochee Forest, 4 miles north of Camp Darby (US Army Ranger training camp). The main N - S Park access (dirt and gravel) road was about two miles from the location. The Park starts about 1/2 mile north of Camp Darby and the access road is the road from Darby into the Park - follow this road for about 2 miles and take the right (north) fork. About 2-3 miles north of the fork and on the west side of the road is a large mountain (I dont know the name of it, and was probably only known as a number on the military maps, however I do not recall what it is) the incident occured near a ridge, about 1/3 of the way up mountain. If I had a military map of the area I could show you the exact location.

NEAREST TOWN: Dalonega
NEAREST ROAD: state park access road about 2 miles away
OBSERVED: In 1985 I was assigned as a Military Policeman to the US Army Garrison at Fort McPhearson, Ga.(Atlanta). We recieved a alert for my squad to go and secure the crash site of an AH-1 (Cobra) helicopter that belonged to the Texas Army National Guard that crashed in the Chatahoochee Forest, North of the Ranger Camp.

We were helicoptered into the ranger camp with our gear and we boarded a "Duece" (2 1/2 ton truck) for the ride to the crash site.

We made it to within about 1/4 mile of the site and had to carry our gear in.

We relieved the Rangers that were guarding the site (the crash occured about 12 hrs earlier) and set up camp. Our job was to keep people out of the area (curiosity seekers, news people, etc.) until the crash investigation team arrived and took over.

The crash site was small, about 100 feet by 30 feet because the Cobra crashed in one piece and then burned, so the whole area had that fuel smell and that "burned flesh" smell.

We set up camp adjacent to the wreckage about 50 feet away and posted our guard shifts. (I will not name complete names here because of 2 reasons, 1. some of the people involved refused to even talk about it afterward. 2. I do not know where they are today.)

My squad consisted of 5 men:

SGT Ken R. - Patrol Supervisor (NCOIC)
SPC Rodney T. - MP
SPC Shaun N. - MP
PFC Tim A. - MP
PFC David K. (Me)-MP

We finally got the camp set around 6:00 pm and the sun was going down. A large fire was built in our perimeter (which was pretty stupid in retrospect due to the large amount of fuel on the ground from the crash) and had set 4 hour shifts. Myself and SPC Shaun N were on the second shift (10:00 pm-2:00 am) we finally racked out about 8:00pm to get some shut-eye.

Around 10:00 pm I woke to the most god awful howl/scream you could imagine and when I looked at SGT Ken R, SPC Rodney T and PFC Tim A, you would have thought that they saw a ghost! All three had their 45's out (we were armed with [45's] with two 6 round magazines) ****ed, locked and ready to rock!

All were visibly shaken. Myself and SPC Shaun N got up and asked what the hell was that, the only answer we got was another howl/scream that was about 50 feet to our east (from the direction of the wreckage) at which time SGT Ken R started dousing the fire from a 5 gallon water can and then told us to spread out online. He told us to keep our flashlights off until he told us and then told us to move out to the wreckage keeping online. His words were "If these locals wanna F*** with the Army then lets give em what they want."

At this point as we started to move out I could hear metal being pulled, thrown and moved around at the crash site and I kept looking for a light down there as I was moving. About 30 feet away SGT Ken R turned on his mag-lite and what I saw scared the S*** out of me: 3 creatures were there among the wreckage and they were not bears! the closest one (about 10 feet away) was holding a piece of metal from the heicopter and stood on 2 legs at least 7 1/2 feet tall, covered in hair except for the face, which looked like a chimp, the one behind him(15 feet away) was dragging part of the pilot's body from the wreckage, he (or she) was larger than the first one, however it was stooped while dragging the body. My estimate was over 8 feet tall with the same facial features. I only saw the 3rd one briefly 40 feet away as it was fleeing.

SPC Rodney T. was the first one to fire which sent everyone into "Dodge City" mode (basically shooting everywhere). After SGT Ken R. got everyone to stop shooting and got us calmed down (yea right!) we reloaded a fresh clip and circled the wagons so to speak. This all lasted about 20 min from start (when I heard the scream) to finish(when we stopped firing) however we stayed locked and loaded till sunrise and did not move from our 360 at the wreckage.

Around 6:00 it started getting light, so we moved out to see if we killed one of the creatures or could at least get a bloodtrail. We found no creature bodies or bloodtrails.

The crash invesigators arrived at 8:00 am and we said nothing to them (upon agreement) and we left and returned to Fort McPhearson.

When I think about that night I really get the "Willies" about what I saw and as I said earlier some of the guys with me absolutely refused to talk about it. I honestly think (looking back on this) that these creatures ment us no harm - they were only scavaging. I think they may have smelled the burned bodies in the same way you can smell someone bar-b-quing, how good it smells? They sensed a free meal - even though we were 50 feet away - and were willing to take the risk.

The howl/scream? one of the creatures calling the others to his find. I have only talked to 2 other people about this and because I am still in the military (though I am no longer an MP) I wish to remain unknown to the public - at least until I retire (in 4 years). As an investigator you are free to contact me any time and I will answer any of your questions that I can.
OTHER WITNESSES: 5 total witnesses involved 2 were sleeping - (myself and SPC Shaun N.) 3 were guarding - (SGT Ken R., SPC Rodney T., PFC Tim A.)
TIME AND CONDITIONS: 10:00-11:00 pm Light Conditions: dark but clear Weather: clear and about 60 degrees

ENVIRONMENT: Geography: mountain terrain (by Georgia standards) with elevations around 3000 feet (highest peak in the area). It has many fast flowing creeks and streams with deep beds. The terrain tends to be very steep in most places with lots of gullies and draws.

Heavily wooded with areas of clearcut. underbrush is thick with lots of deadfalls. Virgin forest and 2nd generation forest about 50 / 50. Mostly Oak and Pine, some Walnut and a few Elm. Blackberries and wild plums abound. Enviorment of Encounter Area: 2nd generation hardwood forest (about 20-30 yrs old) and thick underbrush (oak scrub) about 200 meters (175 yards) from the edge of virgin timber (hardwood)

See Pics and the followup report here: http://www.bfro.net/GDB/show_report.asp?id=2393

http://www.superherohype.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=12025&perpage=25&pagenumber=5

 

[The Lizard]

I'm down with the Loch Ness Monster and the South Carolina Lizardman, but I don't know about Bigfoot.

Didn't the guy who first made up the Bigfoot hoax in the 60's recently die, and confess to it on his deathbed?

 

[Truthteller]

Originally posted by The Lizard
I'm down with the Loch Ness Monster and the South Carolina Lizardman, but I don't know about Bigfoot.

Didn't the guy who first made up the Bigfoot hoax in the 60's recently die, and confess to it on his deathbed?

Yes, Wallace. That was a hoax. He was a well known hoaxer. Here is some info on it: http://www.bfro.net/news/Wallace.asp

Also, The Loch Ness Monster does not have the food suppy to be sustained in that loch unless there is an underground passage to the sea, and that can not be found. I study these things, it is more likely that an unknown primate does indeed exist in North America.

 

[PALADIN]

Originally posted by The Lizard
I'm down with the Loch Ness Monster and the South Carolina Lizardman, but I don't know about Bigfoot.

Didn't the guy who first made up the Bigfoot hoax in the 60's recently die, and confess to it on his deathbed?

Actually,the legends of the Sasquatch extend back over centuries in Native American tribes. The fellow who made his own wooden "bigfoot" clogs and went stomping around the woods to create a hoax was hardly responsible for the variety of sightings that have continued over the years. He merely added a farcical footnote and created interest in something that was already there--much the same as the two retirees in Great Britain who produced Crop Circles yet could not possibly have been responsible for the circles that have appeared around the world,or even all the circles in England for that matter.

 

[Truthteller]

Originally posted by PALADIN
Actually,the legends of the Sasquatch extend back over centuries in Native American tribes. The fellow who made his own wooden "bigfoot" clogs and went stomping around the woods to create a hoax was hardly responsible for the variety of sightings that have continued over the years. He merely added a farcical footnote and created interest in something that was already there--much the same as the two retirees in Great Britain who produced Crop Circles yet could not possibly have been responsible for the circles that have appeared around the world,or even all the circles in England for that matter.

Thats exactly right.

Moreover in the case of Sasquatch, if you check out this link, you will see that the reports come from all over North America, not just the Pacific Northwest. http://www.bfro.net/GDB/newadd.asp

Just a few recent examples:

Reports posted since April 1, 2003

August 1972; Nevada, Washoe County (Class A) - Three boys encounter sasquatch in eroded terrain.

October 2001; Manitoba, (Class A) - Woman sees creature cross city park

January 2001; Colorado, Archuleta County (Class A) - Large creature crosses road in 1 1/2 strides

August 1996-97; New Mexico, Otero County (Class A) - Ongoing encounters in southeastern New Mexico

June 1999; Washington, King County (Class A) - Vocalization, followed by sighting near Carnation/Fall City.

February 2002; California, Monterey County (Class A) - Dusk sighting by hunter on Fort Hunter Liggett


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Reports posted since March 1, 2003

June 1987; Wyoming, Carbon County (Class A) - Juvenile sasquatch startles young squirrel hunters

August 2002; Missouri, Greene County (Class A) - Meteor watchers see large two-legged dark creature approach vehicle near Springfield.

1975-1977; Idaho, Bonner County (Class A) - Multiple sightings by northern Idaho family


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Reports posted since February 1, 2003

February 2003; Kentucky, McCreary County (Class A) - Man observes sasquatch looking at him along Highway 92 near Pine Knot.

January 2003; Wyoming, (Class A) - Motorist changes his mind about bigfoot after seeing animal cross road in early morning

July 2002; Ontario, (Class A) - Man watching his sons canoeing also sees upright animal. Extraordinary vocalizations heard.

August 1976; Nevada, Clark County (Class A) - Mother and daughter have sighting along road

June 2000; California, Siskiyou County (Class A) - On a warm summers day, two young men have three separate sightings.

 

[Jack Rabbit]

Originally posted by Man-Thing
bigfoot is a dummy!

look, we found the missing link!

 

[The Lizard]

Originally posted by Truthteller
Yes, Wallace. That was a hoax. He was a well known hoaxer. Here is some info on it: http://www.bfro.net/news/Wallace.asp

Also, The Loch Ness Monster does not have the food suppy to be sustained in that loch unless there is an underground passage to the sea, and that can not be found. I study these things, it is more likely that an unknown primate does indeed exist in North America.

Well to be honest, I'm no slouch in the Cryptozoology department either, my friend (although I DO realize that the SC Lizardman is almost certainly a bunch of hillbilly B.S.-- I just like the concept ). As far as Nessie goes, the pleisiosaur theory is ridiculous, of course. However, a large freshwater mollusk that has access to possible underwater caves or the muddy bottom of the loch is a theory I personally like to entertain.

As far as unknown primates in the Americas, perhaps a smaller creature along the lines of DeLoy's Ape (which I know is a photo that has been largely debunked, but the physiology is still curious) might be the culprit. I don't visualize Bigfoot (or the South's own Skunk-Ape) as the hulking humanoids brought to mind in popular culture or the Yeti stories.

The giant Yeti, however-- that's an interesting possiblity. A decendant of Gigantopithecus, maybe?

 

[PALADIN]

Originally posted by Truthteller:

"Moreover in the case of Sasquatch, if you check out this link, you will see that the reports come from all over North America, not just the Pacific Northwest. "



----Don`t forget the Southern Cousin of Bigfoot: in the southwest area of Arkansas is the town of Fouke,which is said to have it`s own Bigfoot. That monster is a little more famous than the others . . . he's a film star.

Supposedly, this monster is 7 feet tall and hairy all over. The monster has a characteristic smelly odor and kills chicken, cattle, dogs and livestock but so far it hasn't killed any people. It walks on two feet. It's sort of the southern version of a Sasquatch (aka "bigfoot"). The monster supposedly harassed two families living outside of Fouke in the late 1960s. In 1973, the monster story was made famous in a low budget movie called "The Legend of Boogy Creek" (Boggy Creek is the rural area where the monster is suspected to live).

However, the cheesy movie, "Legend of Boggy Creek", is worth the time. It is very interesting and makes you wonder if this monster might really have existed. I recommend you rent it before you go to find the monster, but get your *MST3k gear ready because this one is a hoot. If you can stand the cheesy script, actors and filming, you might learn a bit about the monster.

The monster did actually rate a MSTing from Mike, Servo and Crow! Mike and the bots riff the third of the three films made about the Fouke Monster, "Return To Boggy Creek".

If you do decide to go to Fouke, there is a gift shop near the Creek where you can buy T-shirts and monster memorabilia so even if you don't see the monster it's not a total waste of time. It's fun Arkansas history!

*MST3k is Mystery Science Theater 3000, a popular cult series that ran from 1989-1999.

 

[The Lizard]

Originally posted by PALADIN

If you do decide to go to Fouke, there is a gift shop near the Creek where you can buy T-shirts and monster memorabilia so even if you don't see the monster it's not a total waste of time. It's fun Arkansas history!

Hey Paladin, have you ever been over to Bishopville, SC where the Lizardman made his appearance in the Scape Ore Swamp in 1989-1990? I keep meaning to go over there, but it's like a six-hour drive from Atlanta. If they still had any Lizardman doodads or t-shirts at their gift shops, it might be worth it.

 

[spiderrasmon]

How can you believe in Bigfoot and not believe in God?

 

[Truthteller]

I saw that movie at the theater!

As I recall, the original encounters are documented at BFRO and are rather compelling...

 

[PALADIN]

Originally posted by spiderrasmon
How can you believe in Bigfoot and not believe in God?

.....I can`t recall anyone saying they did not believe in God,but did believe in Bigfoot in this thread.

 

[PALADIN]

Originally posted by Truthteller
I saw that movie at the theater!

As I recall, the original encounters are documented at BFRO and are rather compelling...

I saw it as well.....
It was cheaply done,but quite creepy and compelling.

 

[Cyclops]

I can't think of bigfoot without thinking of "Harry and The Hendersons".

 

[PALADIN]

Originally posted by Cyclops
I can't think of bigfoot without thinking of "Harry and The Hendersons".

Bloody hell, CYC......You`re still better off than I am .....

I can`t think of Bigfoot without envisioning that "Cyborg Sasquatch" from the ol` "Six Million Dollar Man" series.

 

[The Lizard]

Here's a board game I had as a kid...

Bigfoot Game

Man, I loved that game....good times.

 

[Cyclops]

Originally posted by PALADIN
Bloody hell, CYC......You`re still better off than I am .....

I can`t think of Bigfoot without envisioning that "Cyborg Sasquatch" from the ol` "Six Million Dollar Man" series.

Cy... borg sasquatch. Oooooo-kay... and I thought the robotic gorilla from "Spawn" was a lame idea (well, I thought everything from "Spawn" was a lame idea, but still....).

 

[PALADIN]

Originally posted by Cyclops
Cy... borg sasquatch. Oooooo-kay...

Yessirreebob...... Steve Austin battled "The Bionic Bigfoot" several times in the ol` 70`s series....Pro Wrestler Andre The Giant played the hairy creature,a weird creation of space aliens who used him to guard their secret mountain headquarters in the pacific northwest. They had been there for centuries,hence the entire "Sasquatch" legend.

Of such stuff was 70`s tv sci-fi made of.....