Bigger threat: Loki vs. Joker? Mischief vs. Chaos

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  1. Nave 'Torment'

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    The two greatest anarchists on the face of superhero movies...

    The original Norse trickster figure/god of mischief/horse-raider who manipulates your heart vs. The archetypal trickster/agent of chaos/schizophrenic clown who inspires your mind to madness

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    "I come with glad tidings. Of a world free... from Freedom."

    a malignant bastard son who feels wronged for being born in the wrong place, with a self-appointed need to oppose Fate

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    "Their morals, their codes is a bad joke. They're only good as the world allows them to be. When the chips are down, these civilized people will eat each other. The truth: the only sensible way to live life is without rules."

    a nihilistic clown who sees the world as inherently absurd and meaningless, with a propensity to show that morality is a joke and that any action is ultimately justifiable by the idea of opposites.



    Picture a three-part contest, concluding with a face-off.

    1. Each has to escape their respective prisons,

    2. Cause at least 1 significant landmark catastrophe in town

    3. Kill a beloved "supporting character"

    * all the while keeping your do-gooder off-track.

    Finally

    Break the other guy in their own torture-room / evil-lair. Loki gets Arkham Asylum, Joker gets Hel. (OR if you want to keep things relevant to the movies, Loki gets Gordon's MCU at Gotham Central - Joker get's the Helicarrier). Essentially this last place has to be the one where your anarchist broke out of in the first place.

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    Round 1: The Break Out

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    The God of Mischief is imprisoned, either here:

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    The S.H.I.E.L.D. Hellicarrier

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    or here...

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    Hel's Rock, Niflheim. The Asgardian prison.

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    The Break Out

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    The Clown's either imprisoned here...

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    Gordon's MCU cells at Gotham Central

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    or at home...

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    Arkham Asylum. Home for the emotionally disturbed and the criminally inspired.

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    Round 2: Ragnarok

    The idea is to cause at least one landmark catastrophe in each of their respective locations:

    Asgard,

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    Some prominent landmarks include Valaskiaf: Palace of Odin, and the Bifrost (seen here) as well as...


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    The Hall of Heroes (Great Hall of Asgard)

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    Arena / Dome of Combat

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    Warrior's Walk / Thingstead / Asgardian Agora (Divine Council)

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    Hlidskiaf: Highseat of Odin

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    Urd's Well / Well of Fate

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    Odin's Weapons Vault

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    Seat of Frigga


    or...
     
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    Marvel's New York:


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    Statue of Liberty / Liberty Island


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    Queensburo Bridge

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    Empire State Building

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    Columbi...er... I mean Empire State University

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    Brooklyn Bridge (as appeared in Fantastic Four)

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    Baxter Building

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    Chrysler Building

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    The Daily Bugle

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    Oscorp Towers

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    Stark Towers
     
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    Round 2: Ragnarok

    The Joker's location, of course, would be more limited than Loki's since he's only got Gotham City to play with. But that doesn't mean his choice for symbolic landmarks is any less.

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    You start with Gotham's other prince...

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    Wayne Tower

    (the adjacent road leads both to the Monorail Station as well as to the street where there was once a confrontation with the Dark Knight)

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    Wayne Manor

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    Gotham Clock Tower

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    Sprang Memorial Bridge

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    Monarch Theatre, Parkrow "Crime Alley" - a special place for Batman, located in Lower East End, where incidentally Catwoman hangs around.

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    Gotham Hall of Records - you blow this up and you destroy the city's history

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    The Batcave - if only you can locate it...

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    Gotham Cathedral - Batman vs. Joker history that makes it a landmark
     
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    Prewitt Building - another personally historical landmark

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    Gotham Stadium

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    Gotham Stock Exchange

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    Gotham General Hospital

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    Gotham National Bank (if it worked once it'll work again)

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    Gotham District Court House

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    Gotham International Airport

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    Blackgate Penitentiary

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    Gotham City Hall
     
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    BONUS ANTAGONISTS:

    Since this is a contest between two evil-doers, it's rudimentary that the character alone blows the chosen landmark, which means they might have to one-up another anarchist-figure in the process in Round 2.

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    and for DC's clown, it's Vertigo's own anarchist:

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    Round 3: Getting the Bunny

    Having destroyed one significant landmark in the city, the character's primary nemeses are busy dealing with the disaster. During the ensuing confusion, the agenda (and opportunity) is perfect to cause a holocaust that's much more personal...

    The objective of Round 3 is to kill a supporting character, either an ally or a love-interest. The methods to do so, as always, remain open to improvisation.

    For Loki, the potential victims are...

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    Sif "The Beautiful Haired"

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    "Doctor" Jane Foster

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    Heimdall "The Sentry"

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    Professor "Myth-Knowing" Selvig

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    Baldur "The Other Brother"

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    Phil Coulson, "Agent of S.H.I.E.L.D."
     
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    The Joker has the choice of selecting between

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    Rachel "Bat's Little Bunny" Dawse

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    "Commissionerr" Gordon

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    CEO of Wayne Enterprises Lucius Fox

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    "Catwoman"

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    That Orphan Kid (with a crowbar)

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    District Attorney Harvey Dent
     
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    Heroes on your back:

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    Finally...

    The Face-Off. You have to break your opponent at their own prison. Winning this determines the outcome, but the advantages...

    At the site of the face-off, if you come in first and have a 2 outta 3 advantage in the "race," you get to keep one of your own goodies. The advantage means that Loki gets to keep his scepter, and the Joker gets to keep all his cards. So, who would break first in a hypothetical torture scenario? Loki in Hel/Helicarrier, or the Joker in Arkham/MCU, provided that the torturer is the other guy? You decide. With reasons.

    Who's better at anarchy?

    the God of Mischief,
    or the Prince of Chaos?

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    I can't be the only one confused about this thread. :dry:
     
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    Lol I don't even know if it's about breaking out of prison and fighting or who can break out of prison first. And I have no clue what Green Goblin and Vertigo have to do with this.
     
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