The Dark Knight Biggest Disappointment

[Batman jr.]

you expected that to be in the movie?
when would that be needed for other than a cool poster? lol
i guess joker could do it to get batmans attention but i kinda knew it wouldnt be anything other than an awesome poster

Well, whining fanboys will be always among us. Perhaps they are working on a signal like for them to lit up the sky

 

[abcdefz]

LOL That is the coolest thing I've ever seen!

Isn't it great?

I wasn't sure if it had been posted anywhere else on these boards yet or not.

 

[miggizle85]

Isn't it great?

I wasn't sure if it had been posted anywhere else on these boards yet or not.

Yeah someone made to celebrate TDk passing $400 million mark a few weeks back. Can't remember who made it but it was posted in the "Your Box-Office predictions" thread in the Non-Spoilers area. There are a whole bunch of other awesome gifs like that one there as well.

 

[Double Down]

I was sorry that this scene was cut:

It's mesmerizing.

 

[krisl]

Does anyone know how you find or save the animation to send on?

 

[X Lobo]

Factually there's a lot of flaws in that movie, coming from the guy who did memento and who took me by surprise with liam neeson being ras al ghul in the last episode, that's my disapointment. but i'm not saying the film is bad at all.

As for the movie poster, it would have been some eyecandy in the movie (like the batwing in front of the moon if you remember '89) and i was really expecting it...the burning building at least not the batmn figure standing 'proudly' in front of it, like some sort of unreal and out of proportions tease from the joker, like the bat is responsible for everything, see what i mean it would have totally made sense !

 

[Batman jr.]

The level of newbie bs is too much for me *cries*

 

[abcdefz]

Does anyone know how you find or save the animation to send on?

I think if you right-click on it you'll get that option.

Yeah someone made to celebrate TDk passing $400 million mark a few weeks back. Can't remember who made it but it was posted in the "Your Box-Office predictions" thread in the Non-Spoilers area. There are a whole bunch of other awesome gifs like that one there as well.

Harvey's head is a little too small, but whoever did it got enough images of Joker to make it look really expressive. It looks exactly right.

 

[The Englishman]

I was quite Dissapointed with the size of Bruce Waynes LCD TV in his penthouse, it should have been much bigger for a playboy Billionaire....

 

[Harrygucha]

Dare I say it...But, yes...to me some of the Batman The Animated series episodes were more grounded and realistic than The Dark Knight. I wish Nolan would show some restraint when it comes to his Batman films; you don't have to push the action to the extreme in the third act; you don't have to have batman fliping bikes up walls and turning, and you don't hav to have him using ridiculously unreal technology. What makes Batman so special is the fact that he does NOT have any super powers. He has to use his intillect, and training to get through obstacles. TDK did very well for the first hour: I thought this is gonna be an intimate, grounded film. It's gonna be unique.... - And then we get the pod riding up the wall, Harvey suddenly turning bad after his face gets burned, The barge scene (completely unrealistic..and absurd), And we also get bat sonar which was also BADLY done...and UNREALISTIC, and overly used, and then we get that stupid building scene where batman uses his sonar - TOO CHAOTIC...And everything goes South from there. Why can't Nolan show restraint?? Just because it could be your last film, don't try to shove everything in one movie and spoil it for fans. KEEP IT REAL. KEEP IT SIMPLE. The animated series was able to this in certain episodes. Why can't a movie do it all the way through??? Batman is the most realistic character..don't violate it and make it too far fetched. Maybe Hollywood will never learn. Although, I have to admit, the first hour was the best thing i have seen in a while - just wish the last hour and a half was just as good.

 

[Harrygucha]

A perfect way for this movie to have gone: After the hospital scene, Harvey goes missing. That's it. That's the last we see of him in the film. And right after that scene we have Batman trying to track down the Joker. He's getting nowhere. We then go to Jim Gordon's house. There's a knock at his door. He looks out his window: squad cars. Gordon opens the door: An officer...except there is something odd about him...his smile. It's the Joker. The Joker kills Gordon's wife in front of him. Joker takes Gordon with him to a random location (could be an amusement park). The Joker tries to get Gordon to kill him - Gordon is about to pull the trigger, but the batman shows up and gives Gordon a moral speech. This would have been one dramatic scene. The Joker giggling all the while, urging Gordon to pull the trigger. Gordon doesn't. They take the Joker into custody. That would have been perfect. Intimate. Real. Awesome.

 

[Goodfellas]

wasnt that the original plan to have two face scarred and not have much of him as two face so they could save him for the third movie?

because i was shocked when he was given a decent amount of screen time as two face anfd than he dies because i always though that they were gonna leave it a clif hanger with harvey and bring him back for the third were he would be the main villain

 

[Ziggyman]

My biggest disapointment was the ending (sort of). Not the actual ending where Batman is running from the cops, no that was epic and one of my favorite parts. No I'm talking about the the last 30 mins of the film. After Joker escaped from the jail and Rachael blew up the film just kind of takes a nose dive for me. With the excpetion of the money burning scene, the Joker nurse scene, and the Batman v. Swat scene, the rest of the movie just didn't satisfy me.

For me the whole disapointment starts at the scene where Bruce is mourning Rachael's death. It was a great scene and it ended awesomely. I especially like Alfred's line about how they "burned the forest down" to catch the bandit in Burma. Okay so after that scene I'm totally hyped and eager to see how that analogy is going to relate to Batman's current situation. I was like "Okay... this is the start of THE BEST part of the movie, I know it. If you thought that Joker Semi-Truck scene was amazing then this next part is going to blow that one out of the water". And in my mind I was picturing Gotham city being evacuated and then suddenly being blown to smithereens (by Batman or Gordan or even them just allowing Joker to blow it up). That's how I thought Batman was going to "burn the forest down". I even had images of the posters where Batman is standing in front of the Burning building and where Joker is standing with all kinds of rubble flying past him. I was like "Here we go mother f%cker. Oh yeah."

Instead we get a cheesey ass boat scene, and the cheesey ass Bat sonar. Bat Sonar. That was Batman's version of "burning the forest down". Wow real extreme Batman. Oh no "this.. is.. wrong". Yeah it's wrong. It's anti-climatic that's why.

Still the Swat fight scene was awesome. The Joker's last fight with Batman could've been better had it not been cut down and spliced with the boring ass Boat scene. The Joker's final shot was definately disapointing (falling while laughing was cool but being captured by swat with no other mention whatsoever was kinda lame). And finally that Two-Face "death" scene was lame as hell. Like someone else said "Batman could've found a million other ways to handle that situation than how he did". He has gadgets, ninja training, Kevlar armor, grapple hooks, throwing "thingys". He didn't have to get shot like a ***** and then outta nowhere just maul Harvey Dent sending him falling to his apparent death and putting Gordan's son in danger as well. Still the very last scene was so emotional and epic that it made up for those disapointing last 30 mins and "The Dark Knight" is still easily the best movie of the year for me. But it could have been just that much better if those last 30 mins hadn't been so lame.

...The story was meant to display to Bruce that The Joker doesn't want money...But wants to see the world burn...

By The Joker creating chaos...Every trying to stop him must play his game and create chaos themselves to stop such a man...Because they become desperate...When Alfred and the others couldn't find that man...They burnt the whole damn forest to find him...They went down to the robber's level of destruction...Although the man got caught...He got what he wanted...

The story explains the relationship between The Joker and Batman in the film very well...

 

[obiwan]

my biggest dissapointment, and im sure im not the only one out there who felt this way, nolan screwed up joker to an extent. not TOTALLY, but lets just say he changed joker about as much as burton changed the penguin. there were times where he just looked TOO much like a normal guy, and it was hard to watch. despite the lone "first appearance", joker was never a normal guy who puts "war paint" makeup on, he got dumped in chemicals and got perma white. in fact, it made more sense for him to be laughing all the time, the chemicals MADE him even more insane then he was before and it made him laugh uncontrollably. then joker would use the chemicals that made him joker, and apply as a weapon that would make ppl "die" with uncontrollable laughter. THAT is joker.

ledger did none of that stuff, he was like some normal guy who didnt appear to be artistic or have any kind of style in any way. a gun and a knife. woohoo, thats only part of what makes joker "joker". jack had guns....but he also had the rest of the joker gear, like pop guns, laughing gas, hand detonators, etc. he had all the gags that are familiar with joker. ledger had NONE of that stuff. which is why i believe that jacks joker is still THE best joker. period. you can say what you want, but thats my opinion and i aint changing it.

 

[Infinity9999x]

my biggest dissapointment, and im sure im not the only one out there who felt this way, nolan screwed up joker to an extent. not TOTALLY, but lets just say he changed joker about as much as burton changed the penguin. there were times where he just looked TOO much like a normal guy, and it was hard to watch. despite the lone "first appearance", joker was never a normal guy who puts "war paint" makeup on, he got dumped in chemicals and got perma white. in fact, it made more sense for him to be laughing all the time, the chemicals MADE him even more insane then he was before and it made him laugh uncontrollably. then joker would use the chemicals that made him joker, and apply as a weapon that would make ppl "die" with uncontrollable laughter. THAT is joker.

ledger did none of that stuff, he was like some normal guy who didnt appear to be artistic or have any kind of style in any way. a gun and a knife. woohoo, thats only part of what makes joker "joker". jack had guns....but he also had the rest of the joker gear, like pop guns, laughing gas, hand detonators, etc. he had all the gags that are familiar with joker. ledger had NONE of that stuff. which is why i believe that jacks joker is still THE best joker. period. you can say what you want, but thats my opinion and i aint changing it.

Actually, we don't know if the chemicals the Joker fell into did anything other then bleach him white. There are theories that the chemicals contributed to the insanity, but there are also other theories that postulate that the Joker was actually deranged before the accident, and yet more theories that the chemical bleaching was the breaking point in a series of bad events. We don't know if the chemicals effected his mind in any way. The only things we know for sure about the Joker is that he fell into chemicals and had his skin bleached white. Everything else is speculation.

And I would disagree that Ledger didn't have any style as the Joker. He certainly had a theatric flare. Stacking the judge's car with Joker cards so the cards were blown everywhere when the car blew up, carving smiles into his victim's faces, carving a smile and painting the face of the two people who were "Harvey Dent", dressing up as a Nurse when sneaking into the hospital, or riding in a Semi truck that he altered to say "Slaughter is the best medicine."

No, he didn't have his normal Joker gags, and I would have liked to see them too, but he certainly had a style. But the Joker laughing gas and Joker's lethal pranks is not the core of the Joker. Many great stories with Joker don't feature these elements at all, such as Arkham Asylum or Joker's first appearances in Batman comics.

I'm not saying it's bad that you perfer these elements in the character, but I'm just saying that you don't necessarily need them to tell a good story.

 

[Ratatat]

My biggest disappointment is we have d-bag fanboys STILL *****ing about no permawhite Joker. That is all.

 

[Dark Victory]

They left out the skateboard scene and the part with Joker in the red car.

 

[deathfromabove]

My biggest disappointment is we have d-bag fanboys STILL *****ing about no permawhite Joker. That is all.

They left out the skateboard scene and the part with Joker in the red car.

heath was skateboarding on set for kicks. it was never intended to be in the film.

 

[drunkhomer]

My biggest disappointment is we have d-bag fanboys STILL *****ing about no permawhite Joker. That is all.

+1

 

[Dark Victory]

heath was skateboarding on set for kicks. it was never intended to be in the film.

 

[Gamma Ray]

I really hated the final sonar scenes. That's the only part of the movie that I wish I could fast forward in the theater.

 

[Ace of Knaves]

my biggest dissapointment, and im sure im not the only one out there who felt this way, nolan screwed up joker to an extent. not TOTALLY, but lets just say he changed joker about as much as burton changed the penguin. there were times where he just looked TOO much like a normal guy, and it was hard to watch. despite the lone "first appearance", joker was never a normal guy who puts "war paint" makeup on, he got dumped in chemicals and got perma white. in fact, it made more sense for him to be laughing all the time, the chemicals MADE him even more insane then he was before and it made him laugh uncontrollably. then joker would use the chemicals that made him joker, and apply as a weapon that would make ppl "die" with uncontrollable laughter. THAT is joker.

ledger did none of that stuff, he was like some normal guy who didnt appear to be artistic or have any kind of style in any way. a gun and a knife. woohoo, thats only part of what makes joker "joker". jack had guns....but he also had the rest of the joker gear, like pop guns, laughing gas, hand detonators, etc. he had all the gags that are familiar with joker. ledger had NONE of that stuff. which is why i believe that jacks joker is still THE best joker. period. you can say what you want, but thats my opinion and i aint changing it.

the story of joker falling into the chemicals and turning white aren't 100% truth are they? joker doesn't even know his past "if i have a past, i prefer it to be mulitple choice". burtons batman just went with the chemical bath story, thats just another portrayal.
Ledgers Joker did plenty of things that were Jokerish. He still broadcasted threats on TV, he still had elaborate ways to kill people, escape jail and rob banks. He lied about or didn't know his past, i just think we got the best portrayal of Joker in TDK. I still think Jacks the maaaan. but his joker was just a amped up version of himself in a purple suit and make-up.

 

[Gamma Ray]

The way the Joker went on TV and announced he would kill people and then the way they sealed off the buildings, but people still died was incredibly reminiscent of Joker's first appearance in the comics.

 

[Bat Creature]

Originally Posted by Doubledown44 View Post
One thing I predicted during the movie didn't happen, but I wish it would have. When the people on the boats had their remote control to blow up the other ship, I wish one of them would have pushed the button ... only to find out that it blew up their own boat. That seems like the kind of messed-up thing the Joker would do.

That's exactly what I thought would happen when the guy on the citizen's boat wanted to press the button. Well if he had pressed the button, maybe that would have happenend.

The only disappointment in the movie for me:

Unlike in Batman Begins, Scarecrow's voice was not distorted while he was wearing his mask. That seemed odd.

 

[I Am The Knight]

The only disappointment in the movie for me:

Unlike in Batman Begins, Scarecrow's voice was not distorted while he was wearing his mask. That seemed odd.

I think that had to do with the fact you don't see Scarecrow from the POV of someone infected with the fear toxin.