The Dark Knight Biggest Disappointment

[Batmatic]

The Joker's laugh at the very end made up for the lack of laughing throughout the film. I thought they deliberately did it that way so that, in essence, after telling Batman his plan, he would get the "last laugh."

 

[scatterax]

...I mean, if he wasn't strong enough to turn it around when it was doing a wheely than he shouldn't of even been able to turn it when it was on the ground. just look at how b\thick those wheels are compared to normal motor cycle wheels

 

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This thread is still alive?!?!?!

 

[dark_b]

the batpod turning on the wall was 100% not from Nolan.

 

[scatterax]

This thread is still alive?!?!?!

nope, it isn't. because nobody, not even you, post here anymore.

 

[Verdammt]

the batpod turning on the wall was 100% not from Nolan.

Schumacher's Last Laugh?

 

[JaD]

Joker not laughing?

http://ie.youtube.com/watch?v=ByPjPF57Khs

Wow.

I really enjoyed that video. t:

 

[scatterax]

Schumacher's Last Laugh?

 

[Jack O Lantern]

Funny. The only person I recall seeing die in that scene is the fake Ra's. Considering the amount of training these guys have had, do you really think they've never been in a tight situation where they've had to get the hell out of Dodge at a moment's notice?

Except you see three or four being wngulfed by the flames. You have to remember that two of these highly trained ninjas were easily beaten by Alfred,

He was also being a smartass to Two-Face even when the guy had a loaded gun in his hand. And called the Joker a "nobody" even after he'd stolen over 60 million from him and his pals. That says more about Maroni's nature than it does about Batman's supposed inability to intimidate.

So if they have a guy who's not afraid to stand up to Batman, why are they so desperate that they turn to the Joker?

i am not following you. elaborate on that please.

Police have to follow rules and precendure where arresting a suspect. One of which, I would imagine, is that if a guy dressed like a Bat kidnaps somebody, infront of witnesses, from his home country. That's illegal and anybody with any knowledge of the law would be able to get a mistrial. And it;s stupid stuff like that that stop this from being a serious Oscar contender.

 

[Ace of Knaves]

The mob aren't afraid of Batman himself, only what he can do ie. help get their money taken away. This is proved when he brings Lau back to Gotham.

And that thing about Lau, if you remember Dent denies Batman had anything to do with it " I don't know about Mr Lau's travel arrangements ". It's not hard to believe really, i'm sure the US government does things like that all the time. Or even bounty hunters who cross the border into Mexico to bring someone back to the US to be prosecuted.

 

[Mr. Earle]

I thought it was stupid, but not terribly unrealistic. I remember watching that special that was on HBO that talked about the Batpod and it said something about it having a motor for each wheel sitting inside the hub. Moving at the right speed, the front motor could keep the front wheel spinning enough to force it up the wall, but to get the whole 'Pod to turn around on the back wheel like it did would require some phenominal upper body and arm strength. Unless the 'Pod kicked itself off the wall somehow, but I didn't see indication that that was the case.

I'm pretty sure batman has enough upper body strengh. I mean, he trains enough. I'm not saying he wouldn't half to try hard, I'm just saying I think he'd be strong enough to do it.

Its not about realism (because the semi flip was unrealistic too), its about how it looks. And it looked ridiculous.

 

[scatterax]

I don't think the other mobsters thought maroni could do much about the batman problem than they could. bring in the joker

 

[Mr. Earle]

Police have to follow rules and precendure where arresting a suspect. One of which, I would imagine, is that if a guy dressed like a Bat kidnaps somebody, infront of witnesses, from his home country. That's illegal and anybody with any knowledge of the law would be able to get a mistrial. And it;s stupid stuff like that that stop this from being a serious Oscar contender.

Yes because the Academy will be agitated by that. Come on, they voted Million Dollar Baby the best movie of the year! That overrated piece of crap!

The fact of the matter is that you re watching a movie about batman. He beats crooks, ties them up and the police takes them to prison. If you are so concerned about realism, then you should start with the memory cloth cape, the fact that the bad guys always miss, the fact that they conveniently failed to hit the tumbler where it hurts (the tyres), etc. Relax and enjoy the masterpiece man!

 

[Ace of Knaves]

Yea people are looking too far into this "realism" thing. It is still a fantasy film, its just grounded in reality.

 

[scatterax]

Its not about realism (because the semi flip was unrealistic too), its about how it looks. And it looked ridiculous.

I thought it was looked pretty cool. it mighta been unnescisary, but it was sure cool. (kinda like the joker in the nerses outfit) look, if you don't like it that's fine. just try not to let it bother you enough to take you outa the movie, cuz it's really not that big a deal. ok?

 

[Mr. Earle]

I thought it was looked pretty cool. it mighta been unnescisary, but it was sure cool. (kinda like the joker in the nerses outfit) look, if you don't like it that's fine. just try not to let it bother you enough to take you outa the movie, cuz it's really not that big a deal. ok?

Of course man! I loved the movie and that part was trivial really.

 

[scatterax]

Of course man! I loved the movie and that part was trivial really.

k, awesome.

 

[The Navigator]

The only things that were disappointing were the subplots--they were either irrelevant to the movie's point (Reese) or trailed away and forgotten about (volunteer batmen). Other than that, I liked it.

 

[The Navigator]

Yes because the Academy will be agitated by that. Come on, they voted Million Dollar Baby the best movie of the year! That overrated piece of crap!

And Chicago. *shudders*

 

[Anita18]

The only things that were disappointing were the subplots--they were either irrelevant to the movie's point (Reese) or trailed away and forgotten about (volunteer batmen). Other than that, I liked it.

Not really. I would think that the volunteer Batmen would have ran for the hills and not come back after seeing what happened to their leader, Brian Douglass. Since Brian was still dressed in his Batman outfit, he might have attempted to go after Joker himself, but at that point nobody knew what the Joker was truly capable of.

And the whole bit with Reese proved the lengths that Bruce would go to rescue someone, even if they don't have his interests in mind. Reese might also think that revealing Batman's identity will get Joker to stop killing, because at that point, everyone still thinks that Joker only wants to know who Batman is.

To me, the "central dramatic question" of the entire film is, "Will Gotham stop the Joker?" Brian tried and failed. Reese tried and failed too. Both subplots are off-shoots from the conflict with Batman, but they're still relevant to the movie's main plot.

 

[scatterax]

Not really. I would think that the volunteer Batmen would have ran for the hills and not come back after seeing what happened to their leader, Brian Douglass. Since Brian was still dressed in his Batman outfit, he might have attempted to go after Joker himself, but at that point nobody knew what the Joker was truly capable of.

And the whole bit with Reese proved the lengths that Bruce would go to rescue someone, even if they don't have his interests in mind. Reese might also think that revealing Batman's identity will get Joker to stop killing, because at that point, everyone still thinks that Joker only wants to know who Batman is.

To me, the "central dramatic question" of the entire film is, "Will Gotham stop the Joker?" Brian tried and failed. Reese tried and failed too. Both subplots are off-shoots from the conflict with Batman, but they're still relevant to the movie's main plot.

this post made me want to see the movie again.

 

[Verdammt]

this post made me want to see the movie again.

A post made you want to see it again? The fact that it's still in theaters should have done that.

 

[Anita18]

this post made me want to see the movie again.

I think you're the second or third person I've done that to.

 

[Mr. Earle]

The only things that were disappointing were the subplots--they were either irrelevant to the movie's point (Reese) or trailed away and forgotten about (volunteer batmen). Other than that, I liked it.

Apart from the thoughts anita posted, i would like to add that Reese served as a tool for Nolan to show that the joker was no longer interested in killing Batman. Sure he said so himself, but he also put his words where his mouth is (how does that expression go anyway?) and proved it when batman's identity was about to become public.

Also, bruce saving his ass was a great insight in Bruce's mentality.

 

[Verdammt]

Also, bruce saving his ass was a great insight in Bruce's mentality.

That being that no matter who you are, I'll save if to the fullest extent that my abilities will allow.