The Dark Knight Biggest Disappointment

[Mee]

Biggest disappointment? That it ended.





But for serious, I didn't much care for the sonar thing. I didn't hate it, it didn't ruin it for me, but...meh. I actually thought at one point "this is like a video game."


But there was more than enough awesome to make up for that.

 

[DarthSkywalker]

So does mine. I could go on about the disappointments, but my biggest one was the the rush feeling.

I don't understand this. What exactly was rushed?

 

[LBJ3000]

This thread is a disappointment.

This movie was brilliant, and you guys are complaining about small stupid things.

Give this movie some Respect. We've all been waiting for this film for this long, And we stoop down so low that we're complaining about how many laughs the joker had. C'mon guys.


I'm still glad about the fact that terrorists didn't destroy America before I saw this film. lol







-LBJ

 

[shadowman2]

I'm still not sold that Two-face died. Sorry. I won't be until its official. Which is wasn't.

Anyway, my biggest disappointment was.....I guess that Joker didn't laugh or smile as much. He made me laugh a few times, but Joker is all about evil and laughter. We didn't get too much of it, but he made me laugh throughout the film. He had a subtle laughter in him.

 

[nimrodson]

The music only overpowers the dialogue when it is suppose to.

Yeah, totally agree with you. But at the very end, when Gordon is laying it all out there for us, a small, subtle change in music would have helped (i.e. lowering the volume one notch and upping the "speech" one notch).

It was like I was struggling to hear every word. Which actually may not be a bad thing...

Just perplexed me to see someone list something else I was a little bit curious about. I understand where you're coming from though.

 

[Conebone69]

Okay, I'm not sure I'm right here, but was the Wayne Enterprises exterior seen at all in the film? I know we saw the interior, but I thought that the darkly colored, extremely window-y building that said "WAYNE" was the penthouse building. Could be totally wrong, though. If that WAS Wayne Tower, then I share that disappointment with you.



Come on. If you're going to go with the badass, attention craving, sarcastic rebel routine, at least try and inject a LITTLE wit into your "clever comebacks."

Anyway, I was pretty disappointed by the fact that Batman killed dogs. I love dogs. Even mean dogs.

And there was no monorail or narrows, two of my favorite visual aspects of Begins.

Aside from Two Face being dead (though I'm almost certain that he's only dead if the Batman franchise takes a break at TDK), there were really no other major disappointments for me.

Wit isnt my specialty

 

[I-T-B]

Wit isnt my specialty

Try reading some of those "Clean Fun With Knocknock Jokes" books. Whip you right into shape in no time flat...

 

[DarthSkywalker]

I'm still not sold that Two-face died. Sorry. I won't be until its official. Which is wasn't.

Anyway, my biggest disappointment was.....I guess that Joker didn't laugh or smile as much. He made me laugh a few times, but Joker is all about evil and laughter. We didn't get too much of it, but he made me laugh throughout the film. He had a subtle laughter in him.

Gordan's eulogy wasn't enough?

As to the Joker laughing or smiling, the point of his permit smile I thought was that he didn't have to smile. He does actually laugh quite a bit, though it is never the same. He also smiles quite a lot, though it is to himself. Listen to him giggle himself through the video recordings as such.

 

[Conebone69]

Try reading some of those "Clean Fun With Knocknock Jokes" books. Whip you right into shape in no time flat...

Lol, im on it...

 

[bluedragon77]

batmans voice which i hated.. and the fact that some of my fave parts in the trailers wernt in the movies..

 

[The Joker]

Ock, I love ya

Love you, too, buddy. We've had some times on these boards

but I don't understand this debate, at all. You've taken what I said and read a bit too much into, man. Honestly.

Falcone was aced a little over halfway through the film. Who kidnapped Rachel, the damsel in distress? Scarecrow. Who was the main threat through the 2nd act of the film? Scarecrow.

That's it. That was my point. A guy who was a central focal point in the last film is made into a mockery in this film, illustrating his decline on the threat scale.

I understand what you were saying, but I don't agree with the logic behind the stance in Begins. For example, I hate using the awful Spider-Man 3 as an example, but it's the only other comic book movie I can think of with three villains.

Which one of the three villains in that movie was the biggest threat? He fought Sandman the most out of the three, and he was probably the least threatening because he was just a poor father trying to save his sick daughter. He never wanted to hurt anyone. He even told Spidey he didn't want to hurt him and asked him to leave. He didn't even kill anyone in the movie. But Spidey engaged him the most in battle. But that doesn't mean he was the biggest threat.

See what I mean? I agree with your point about Scarecrow's decline of threat level in this movie. Never argued that. What he does in TDK doesn't compare to what he did in Begins. Nobody could argue that.

 

[DarthSkywalker]

Yeah, totally agree with you. But at the very end, when Gordon is laying it all out there for us, a small, subtle change in music would have helped (i.e. lowering the volume one notch and upping the "speech" one notch).

It was like I was struggling to hear every word. Which actually may not be a bad thing...

Just perplexed me to see someone list something else I was a little bit curious about. I understand where you're coming from though.

I see exactly what you are saying, the musics just keeps building at the end. It does get harder to hear, but I believe it is suppose too.

 

[The Mighty Wind]

I don't understand this. What exactly was rushed?

For me it felt like the movie, instead of building up to a series of climaxes simply tried to maintain a constant adrenaline rush by keeping the plot and action coming as fast and furious as possible. It sounds good, but sometimes the cake's just too rich if you get my meaning.

 

[Doc Samson]

That fact that when the Joker tells Batman "We can do this forever" you realize just at that point........that they can't now

 

[TLBorlando]

Okay fans, here are my complaints:

-Audio was way too loud. I could not even hear the dialogue sometimes (especially Gordon's speech at the end). In addition, I don't need to hear Joker's theme music (Da Da - Da Da) everytime he is about to appear on screen.

-It wasn't Batman's story. This was a story that revolved around Dent and Gordon mostly. I don't think the story became personal for Bruce/Batman until Rachel died. In addition, the story moved so quick if you said something to a friend - you could easily miss important details. It was crammed, and some parts of the movie (especially the pivotal action "consolidation" scenes) crushed under it's own weight (with the exception of the chase scene and the Harvey, Gordon scene at the end).

-Batman/Alfred relationship. I just felt as if Alfred was the butler and that's it. I did not see a great dynamic (father-like) relationship between these two like I saw in Batman Begins.

-The Bat-Bunker. I hated where it was located. I still feel as if anybody could accidentally go into the crate and stumble upon the Batman's toys.

-Dent's accident. I laughed when the court scene (where he is scared in the comic books) appeared very early in the film. They changed the bottle of acid for a gun that Dent took from Rossi's hand when Rossi tried to fire it. In my mind, Dent's disfigurement was not as heartbreaking in this film as in the comics. However, I loved the way Two-Face looked!


I can't remember anymore, too tired. I have a lot of likes and i'll post them in the proper forum.

As of right now, I like Batman Begins a little more than TDK because it was more personal for Bruce/Batman. Don't get me wrong though, I like TDK and I can not wait for a third Batman film!

TDK = 8/10

 

[I-T-B]

Gordan's eulogy wasn't enough?

I'm totally prepared to get bombarded with, "ARE YOU SUCH A BIG IDIOT THAT YOU NEED TO HAVE IT SPELLED OUT FOR YOU OMG!?!?" posts, but there was no casket at the eulogy. Now, under usually circumstances, I wouldn't need a casket to believe that somebody's dead, like Rachel. She's been blown up. She's ****ing dead. But Harvey, a young, sturdy lad, took a fall no worse than Maroni's, and if Maroni lived, why not Dent? On top of that, the whole nature of Gordon and Batman's deceit makes the lack of a casket fishy. Why can't it be a eulogy for Harvey in light of his metaphorical death, while Two Face lives on somewhere, Arkham, prison, whatever? That and it's Nolan, and he's a sneaky bastard. I'm not going to believe that he's dead until I see the next installment. Or if there isn't a third installment, in which case it makes sense for him to be dead.

Lol, im on it...

Top man. Always look for oppurtunities to hone your craft.

 

[Darkraven50]

no batarangs!! >_<

 

[Doc Samson]

That fact that when the Joker tells Batman "We can do this forever" you realize just at that point........that they can't now

 

[DarthSkywalker]

For me it felt like the movie, instead of building up to a series of climaxes simply tried to maintain a constant adrenaline rush by keeping the plot and action coming as fast and furious as possible. It sounds good, but sometimes the cake's just too rich if you get my meaning.

Did it? Didn't feel like that at all to me. There are constant moments of silence and even pause. I think the nature of Two Face and Joker as enemies do that.

There is a constant tension, but it isn't the same thing to me. One great example for me is the boat sequence.

 

[Mookiemoo]

Children are the ruiners of all that create joy and happiness. They're the worst things ever to put in a comic book movie. The ones in the Spiderman movies made me vomit a little in my mouth and the ones in TDK nearly ruined the chase scene and the Two Face finale.

I HATE them. HATE!

 

[Andrex]

I don't understand this. What exactly was rushed?

It lacked the cinematography and probing into Bruce's psyche (him sitting in front of the windows is one of the very few shots), and there was like no epilogue at the end. Even though Gordon's speech was *phenomenal*, I still would've like to hear Alfred and Bruce discuss their next moves, or perhaps a "hook" like the Joker card between Batman and Gordon.

In addition there was no shown funeral for Rachel, just Batman standing on rubble for ten seconds (which was a great shot nonetheless). But hitting back on cinematography, this film has so little. The sweeping shots of the mountains and Gotham in Begins was also used to flesh out the epic soundtrack, which I had trouble picking up actually. I didn't even notice Joker had a theme (even though I'd heard it beforehand).

Overall it seems like they went for punch-to-punch-to-punch storyline as opposed to building the characters up in the first 3/4 and then unleashing all the punches in the last one, like Begins. I'm going to wait a whole month before I make my final opinion up, though, because it took me two years to fully appreciate Begins.

/imo

 

[Cmill216]

That fact that when the Joker tells Batman "We can do this forever" you realize just at that point........that they can't now

I didn't have the time to really reflect on that line when he delivered it, but it's so sad in retrospect. Damn.

 

[The Joker]

I'm totally prepared to get bombarded with, "ARE YOU SUCH A BIG IDIOT THAT YOU NEED TO HAVE IT SPELLED OUT FOR YOU OMG!?!?" posts, but there was no casket at the eulogy. Now, under usually circumstances, I wouldn't need a casket to believe that somebody's dead, like Rachel. She's been blown up. She's ****ing dead. But Harvey, a young, sturdy lad, took a fall no worse than Maroni's, and if Maroni lived, why not Dent? On top of that, the whole nature of Gordon and Batman's deceit makes the lack of a casket fishy. Why can't it be a eulogy for Harvey in light of his metaphorical death, while Two Face lives on somewhere, Arkham, prison, whatever? That and it's Nolan, and he's a sneaky bastard. I'm not going to believe that he's dead until I see the next installment. Or if there isn't a third installment, in which case it makes sense for him to be dead.



Top man. Always look for oppurtunities to hone your craft.

LOL! I-T-B, you should win an award for the most random avatar and signature ever. Mrs Whistler from Diamonds are Forever?

I love it

 

[mongoose-mania]

That fact that when the Joker tells Batman "We can do this forever" you realize just at that point........that they can't now

I'm pretty sure anyone who heard that line was saddened. That was my only disappointment for the movie, and what a sad one it was.

 

[DarthSkywalker]

I'm totally prepared to get bombarded with, "ARE YOU SUCH A BIG IDIOT THAT YOU NEED TO HAVE IT SPELLED OUT FOR YOU OMG!?!?" posts, but there was no casket at the eulogy. Now, under usually circumstances, I wouldn't need a casket to believe that somebody's dead, like Rachel. She's been blown up. She's ****ing dead. But Harvey, a young, sturdy lad, took a fall no worse than Maroni's, and if Maroni lived, why not Dent? On top of that, the whole nature of Gordon and Batman's deceit makes the lack of a casket fishy. Why can't it be a eulogy for Harvey in light of his metaphorical death, while Two Face lives on somewhere, Arkham, prison, whatever? That and it's Nolan, and he's a sneaky bastard. I'm not going to believe that he's dead until I see the next installment. Or if there isn't a third installment, in which case it makes sense for him to be dead.

Can't call you an idiot when my brother said the exact same thing.

The thing that made me believe he was dead was the plan itself. Batman taking all of Harvey's crimes on to himself made me truly believe it. He did it because Dent was dead and he could save his reputation. If Dent is alive that wouldn't be the case.