Sequels Black Cat (Casting)

[RustyCage]

t: NICE, Ratcrawler.

I thought about mentioning the X-Men suits as an example, but I wasn't sure how that would be received here... lol

 

[Spider-Fan83]

 

[Ratcrawler]

Honestly Rusty, I think that's what everyone's expecting anyway. Either that or a black version of Jessica Alba's F4 suit.

Maybe the fur lining could hide pockets where she keeps her gear.

The mask could be some type of sleek night vision/infrared goggles.

 

[Doctor Jones]

Who says it would be a love triangle?

To be equally as hypothetical as your post, MJ could just up and leave Peter, unable to cope with everything she'd been put through, and move on with her life. Gwen probably wants nothing to do with him after that first impression either. Then of course, Cat shows up with a refreshingly uplifting effect on him after all the misery he's endured in his love life at the time. And she has an extra appeal because she's running around rooftops in a costume just like he is. Open opportunity for a singular love interest, temporary or not. Sounds just like the comics, right?

But didn't they forgive eachother at the end of the third film? It wouldn't make sense for her to leave him like that. "Hey, I just forgave you, after everything we've been through, so I'm just gonna leave you."

But the reason I don't want Black Cat in a film is that she paralles Catwoman too much. The relationship between Spidey/Cat Batman/Catwoman would be treated almost the same in film form. The attraction of dressing up in costumes. I don't want to see those two same things played out. I think we should leave that to Batman and Catwoman. Plus, after TDK, Selina has to be in it. Those things have to be brought up.

 

[American_Hobo]

Well I guess Black Cat will look something like this on screen?

 

[RustyCage]

But didn't they forgive eachother at the end of the third film? It wouldn't make sense for her to leave him like that. "Hey, I just forgave you, after everything we've been through, so I'm just gonna leave you."

They didn't speak a word, and it sure seemed like there was still a huge burden there, and a lot of tension. To me anyway. But then again, Kirsten comes across really b****y in her personality all the time, so maybe that was influencing how I took the ending.

Plus, even if they do forgive each other, that doesn't mean MJ can continue to cope with it. Maybe after a few weeks she realizes that things simply can't be the way they were before, the way she wanted them to be.

It happens.

But the reason I don't want Black Cat in a film is that she paralles Catwoman too much. The relationship between Spidey/Cat Batman/Catwoman would be treated almost the same in film form.

Says who? It's more nuanced than that. They don't have to handle it the same way at all. That's a poor assumption to make, I'd even say shallow.

And also, we don't have a current Catwoman, just an old 90's version that most moviegoers probably don't even acknowledge anymore now that we have a new Batman franchise that wipes the old one away.

I don't think Spider-man movies should be based on what Batman has or hasn't done in the first place though. And if it's really about that to you, then what if Spidey does Black Cat in a movie before current gen Batman does Catwoman? Should the new Batman franchise not have a Catwoman? Seriously. Give me a break.

 

[RustyCage]

Well I guess Black Cat will look something like this on screen?

As impressively accurate to the popular image of Cat as that is.. .. I would really not prefer an image that impractical or .. well.. for want of a better word.. so much like a prostitute, for the movie.

 

[American_Hobo]

They didn't speak a word, and it sure seemed like there was still a huge burden there, and a lot of tension. To me anyway. But then again, Kirsten comes across really b****y in her personality all the time, so maybe that was influencing how I took the ending.

Plus, even if they do forgive each other, that doesn't mean MJ can continue to cope with it. Maybe after a few weeks she realizes that things simply can't be the way they were before, the way she wanted them to be.

It happens.



Says who? It's more nuanced than that. They don't have to handle it the same way at all. That's a poor assumption to make, I'd even say shallow.

And also, we don't have a current Catwoman, just an old 90's version that most moviegoers probably don't even acknowledge anymore now that we have a new Batman franchise that wipes the old one away.

I don't think Spider-man movies should be based on what Batman has or hasn't done in the first place though. And if it's really about that to you, then what if Spidey does Black Cat in a movie before current gen Batman does Catwoman? Should the new Batman franchise not have a Catwoman? Seriously. Give me a break.

Agree.
Although I think whoever uses their "cat" character first will have advantage over the other one. (Well marketing wisely, anyway)

 

[Ratcrawler]

True. That's why I hope Nolan takes his sweet time on the third installment.

I was batting around a few ideas for Black Cat's film portrayal and something struck me. In SSM she was hired to steal the symbiote by "a certain captain of industry who offered an indecent amout of money."

I think it would be pretty cool if she was Adrian Toomes' hired thief. She steals blueprints and prototypes from rival companies allowing him to stay one step ahead of his competitors. Through her, he got technologies which allow him to develop the Sinister Six.

As I recall, Catwoman really only stole as a hobby. And that was always jewelery or cat-artifacts or whatever. Black Cat, in contrast, would be a hired professional.

 

[American_Hobo]

Well I really like the Spiderman 2 game plotline where Black Cat steals stuffs to get Spiderman's attention and later work together as a team.
Hope they use something like that in the movie.

And I think Black Cat is almost inevitable in either 4 or 5 because Black Cat almost made into Spiderman 2 and it was rumored that Chloe Sevigny was going to play Black Cat in Spiderman 3. (Dont know if that was true or not)

 

[Ratcrawler]

I liked the teamup asPect at the end of SM3. It'd be nice if he had some allies in his war against evil, even if this one is morally ambivalent. EsPecially if he faces the Sinister Six.

 

[American_Hobo]

If the villain is such a strong foe like Electro, I can see Spiderman working together with Black Cat to defeat Electro.
Well to me, the idea of Sinister Six is just too crazy.

 

[Doctor Jones]

They didn't speak a word, and it sure seemed like there was still a huge burden there, and a lot of tension. To me anyway. But then again, Kirsten comes across really b****y in her personality all the time, so maybe that was influencing how I took the ending.

Plus, even if they do forgive each other, that doesn't mean MJ can continue to cope with it. Maybe after a few weeks she realizes that things simply can't be the way they were before, the way she wanted them to be.

It happens.



Says who? It's more nuanced than that. They don't have to handle it the same way at all. That's a poor assumption to make, I'd even say shallow.

And also, we don't have a current Catwoman, just an old 90's version that most moviegoers probably don't even acknowledge anymore now that we have a new Batman franchise that wipes the old one away.

I don't think Spider-man movies should be based on what Batman has or hasn't done in the first place though. And if it's really about that to you, then what if Spidey does Black Cat in a movie before current gen Batman does Catwoman? Should the new Batman franchise not have a Catwoman? Seriously. Give me a break.

I didn't say that at all. I was talking about how the two are so similar. C'mon, you don't think people will wonder why two people who dress up as cats be strange for separate franchises when their both trying to be different? I never said I wanted them to be the same. If fact, you can check out the "Can the next Spider-Man film ever top TDK" for proof that I want a Spider-Man film that's great in it's own way.

And it's just my opinion that Catwoman would work better than Black Cat. Tell me, do you think she's essential to Spider-Man or could they do without her?

 

[Ratcrawler]

Honestly, I'd rather see Black Cat than Catwoman just because she hasn't been done before.

 

[Adrian89]

Jennifer Love Hewitt

She is no black cat. She doesn't have that sensuality, not to mention she is too skinny.

Black Cat = No

I think the same. But then again, this is not on topic and many of you don't seem to realize it for some reason. I don't want her there either, but if they will put her in I hope they will choose the right person and not some screwed up actress like Lohan and I mentioned why down there:

Sarah Michelle Gellar
Estella Warren
Lindsay Lohan

Lohan? Lohan is anything but an actress, but that's not the main point. The real point is that she is in no shape to play BC and she doesn't really have a hot body. I hope you were either drunk when you posted this or just sarcastic.

Well Cuthbert does look the part, not so sure about her acting though.

My pick would be Scarlett Johansson.

Then again, it doesn't take too much talent to play such a character as Black Cat, let's face it. It only takes the looks because she is not an interesting and complex character.

 

[Majik1387]

Lohan? Lohan is anything but an actress, but that's not the main point. The real point is that she is in no shape to play BC and she doesn't really have a hot body. I hope you were either drunk when you posted this or just sarcastic.

Check the date on the post, I suggested that like 10 months ago or so.

 

[Spider-Fan83]

ya, cause, 10 mouths ago or so, she was an amazing actress, and total hottie

no, but I kind

there was a point in her short lived career that there was a shimer of potential for her

in that time it could of been, understandable for her to be a possible candidate for the role, I guess

 

[Visionary]

Black Cat is a worst idea than Venom. And this is what you people want? All we need now is for Avi Arad to get hold of this idea, and it's all over for this franchise.

 

[gingysheringham]

i think black cat could be good but only if raimi gets his act together.

my choice would be kristen bell, i spose she could play it like elle from heroes

just my opinion

 

[American_Hobo]

i think black cat could be good but only if raimi gets his act together.

my choice would be kristen bell, i spose she could play it like elle from heroes

just my opinion

I think Raimi could, considering the fact that he intended to use Black Cat in Spiderman 2.
Maybe his idea of using Black Car was just like in the game.

 

[gingysheringham]

I think Raimi could, considering the fact that he intended to use Black Cat in Spiderman 2.
Maybe his idea of using Black Car was just like in the game.

how was she used in the game?

 

[American_Hobo]

how was she used in the game?

Well basically she steals jewelries from museum to get Spiderman's attention. She works along with Spiderman to bust crimes and to defeat Shocker.
But contrast to the movie, Black Cat suggests to Spiderman that normal life is boring and abandon his normal life and just have fun as Spiderman.
Spiderman eventually tells Black Cat that he needs to be both Peter Parker and Spiderman.

So yeah, if they decide to use Black Cat, I can see them using Peter Parker no more storyline with Black Cat.

 

[Venom'sDad]

Humm, sounds terrible.

 

[p4poetic]

Sarah Michelle Gellar? Jennifer Love Hewitt? This is Spider-Man, not I Know What You Did Last Summer. All of these girls are too slender. BC is very voluptuous. For all the Catwoman insults... I know this has been addressed only once but it needs to be repeated again.

The Black Cat is often mistaken as an homage to DC's Catwoman, however, Felicia Hardy's signature low cut black costume, cat burglar profession, and her steady relationship to Spider-Man predate Selina Kyle's similar depiction in comics by almost a decade. Catwoman originally appeared in comics as "the Cat", a maskless villain in a purple dress who used big cats for elaborate crimes; her modern incarnation as a black suited cat burglar with mutual romantic interest with Batman didn't occur until 1987 with Frank Miller's classic Batman: Year One.

For all the people who think having Black Cat in the Spider-Man film is a bad idea -- relax, its just a hypothetical casting thread. The chance of this happening is extremely low. If you want to have an unrealistic casting thread laugh, take a look at the Harley Quinn casting threads (or Poison Ivy for that matter). Christopher Nolan wouldn't stick those characters anywhere near his Batman films (now Joel Schumacher, that's your guy if you ever want Harley to be in a live action Batman movie. Otherwise, stick to the cartoons folks).

IMO, Spidey has never had as an interesting dynamic with any other supporting female character as he has had with the Black Cat. The whole thing with her being hot for him because he's Spider-Man but not being in love with Peter himself was brilliant. If there's such a thing as comic book chemistry, they have it in spades. I fear they brought "jackpot" in Brand New Day to try the same kind of thing, but there should only be one vigilante gal in Spidey's life and it's BC.

Ever heard of Lois Lane and Superman/Clark Kent?

I don't know who the actress is but......cool.....

Black Cat for SM4

Whoever made this clearly doesn't remember that Spider-Man is a PG 13 movie.

But didn't they forgive eachother at the end of the third film? It wouldn't make sense for her to leave him like that. "Hey, I just forgave you, after everything we've been through, so I'm just gonna leave you."

But the reason I don't want Black Cat in a film is that she paralles Catwoman too much. The relationship between Spidey/Cat Batman/Catwoman would be treated almost the same in film form. The attraction of dressing up in costumes. I don't want to see those two same things played out. I think we should leave that to Batman and Catwoman. Plus, after TDK, Selina has to be in it. Those things have to be brought up.

No she doesn't. I don't know why everyone (the general public alike) thinks The Riddler and Catwoman are the presumed villains. Its just too predictable. If Nolan decides to do it, he'd make us wait after Batman 3, and use under used/rated villains for the third film. Two mainstream villains back to back is going to be overwhelming, no matter how impatient fanboys may get.

I think Rachel McAdams should be a candidate for either Mary Jane or the Black Cat but mostly MJ. I would like Michelle Monahan as the Black Cat.

I'd love to see McAdams as Mary Jane. Just curious how she'd look with red hair.

 

[Doctor Jones]

Well, who else do you put in Batman 3? IMO, Selina is the next logical step. Especially after Rachel's death. But I just don't think it would be right having the same kind of female temptress in two different franchises. Do the one that would work more and that would mean well for the story. I mean c'mon, just think about it: would it work having two women who dress up as cats pretty much with a similar relationship to the hero in different franchises?

Black Cat isn't neccessary. What does she do to the story or revolve some way in Peter or Spider-Man's life that can work. And something that hasn't been done in a videogame.