Black Pessimism at 20 year high!

[Mr Jide]

That's gangsta rap. Rap music has many different styles and subject matters that focus on positive things.

...and Jag, I agree with your last post.

 

[Why Are You Crouching Spock?]

That's gangsta rap. Rap music has many different styles and subject matters that focus on positive things.

...and Jag, I agree with your last post.

Yea, I don't like that, it's a bad influence, people and kids with susceptible minds will and do try to emulate it, music seems more about image than actual music now, or was that always the case? god knows, mtv didn't help matters.

 

[Mr Jide]

I agree. Music isn't about music these days at all. Look back to the early 90s and before. You had people that were ugly as sin, yet they could sing their asses off and have some of the most memorable and recognised songs of all time. Who the hell is going to remember soldier boy in the next 8 months? Anyone remember J-kwon, where his ass at?

 

[Why Are You Crouching Spock?]

I agree. Music isn't about music these days at all. Look back to the early 90s and before. You had people that were ugly as sin, yet they could sing their asses off and have some of the most memorable and recognised songs of all time. Who the hell is going to remember soldier boy in the next 8 months? Anyone remember J-kwon, where his ass at?

Yep, that commercialism for ya, the "music video" seems to have dramatically changed music for the worse, from the music being primary, to the music being secondary to the video, sex and glamor sells sadly.

Late 80's

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2000

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[chamber-music]

My friend went to new york a couple of weeks ago and said that alot of different races stuff together and didn't socialize or talk to each other which was surprising to hear in a city like New York.

I think its like Lightning said, Black people are just frustrated because the current administration doesn't have the black communities issues at the top of its agenda. Stuff like Katrina hasn't exactly won them any fans in the africans americans eyes I suppose.

 

[Arkady Rossovich]

Black people rely too much on past history as an excuse to dictate their future. They also lack the capacity to work together simply because black people to a large extent can't stand to see each other succeed. Just look at rap music. Beef, wanting to end the careers of their peers. Ugh! Black people can't even succeed at organised crime, thats why the majority of prisons are mostly populated by blacks. In short, black people are their own worst enemy. They need to do all they can to get an education, be the best they can be and learn to cooperate with one another. Look at the jews, asians and even white people. These people can work together for a greater purpose but what do black people do? Complain about their brethren getting a new job or a new house or straight up hating on one thing or another.

Sure, Racism exists and is some areas its rampant but if black people equipped themselves with the right tools to succeed in life by putting in the effort and finding the means, nothing can stop them, they can start their own businesses. Black people need to wake the f*** up and recognise that there are opportunities but if they think its going to come to them they better think again and start chasin'.

Very blunt,but i applaude you for putting this down.It makes sence,the truth hurts.I heard from a friend that lives in America,that most just rap or play Basketball.Few do anything else,and most just sit on city streets.

I hope people can understand that comment isn't racism..

 

[terry78]

Whitney Houston ruined Dolly Parton's I will always love you.



On topic: I'm from Scotland, only met a few colored people irl, this will probably come across as ignorant, on the subject of racism and black identity in America, what's up with rap? It's like some sort of self racism, it's give off the image that black people are boastfully criminal (guns/drugs/killing/prostitution) simpletons from slums who objectify woman and quite happily sling around the term ****** to each other? seriously wtf is that **** all about? Are the KKK writing there lyrics?

Did you just use the term colored, Scot boy? It's ON now!


What it boils down to is, racism isn't the cause of all our woes, nor is it non-existent anymore either. There are a number of factors as to why a lot of us are ****ed up, it's not just us and it ain't just whitey either.

 

[Abaddon]

Very blunt,but i applaude you for putting this down.It makes sence,the truth hurts.I heard from a friend that lives in America,that most just rap or play Basketball.Few do anything else,and most just sit on city streets.

I hope people can understand that comment isn't racism..

is that the same friend that told you in NY they all live in the projects of Brooklyn and the Bronx, and the whites and asians live in Queens, Manhattan, and the Hamptons?

 

[terry78]

is that the same friend that told you in NY they all live in the projects of Brooklyn and the Bronx, and the whites and asians live in Queens, Manhattan, and the Hamptons?

We also eat watermelon year round, and sing about how mammy's lil' baby loves shortening bread.

 

[Victarion]

Racism is old hat. Its all about national extremism now.

---nazroM

 

[Abaddon]

We also eat watermelon year round, and sing about how mammy's lil' baby loves shortening bread.

k that part I don't get.

 

[SoulManX]

k that part I don't get.

"Shortnin' Bread" was a Negro plantation song (an Afro-American traditional, then called "la manière nègre") that enjoyed a revival during the golden days of the radio. Lawrence Tibbett (1896-1960, American baritone, principal of the Met for 27 seasons) made a famous recording of it - and America embraced the song. Tibbett became a national legend through several films in which he appeared as the hero, and he was a significant force in early American radio.

"Shortnin' Bread" later became associated with Nelson Eddy. "Mammy's L'il Baby Loves Shortnin' Bread" featured in the movie "Maytime" (MGM, 1937), a prime example of popular Depression-era entertainment, starring John Barrymore, Tom Brown, Nelson Eddy, and Rafaela Ottiano; the film was directed by Robert Z. Leonard and produced by Hunt Stromberg.

 

[Abaddon]

ah, it feels like February.

 

[raybia]

It's your own personal truth, though, and the way you wrote it was as if you were applying it to the entire race, which is what I took issue with. You're not wrong that people need to stop living in the past and look to the future. That's true on all sides. Keeping awareness of what has happened historically is important but dwelling on it and using it to keep progression at bay and cultural wounds open is not healthy, I agree. And everyone does own their own destiny whether they want to recognize or accept that or not. You get out of life what you put into it and there are no handouts. If you want it bad enough, work for it. That's something EVERY person, regardless of gender, race, religion, age, creed or whatever other factor you can dream up ought to come to terms with.

jag

Great post jag.

 

[BlackLantern]

I just try to be the best person I can. Some black people are so entangled how and why everyone else is keeping them back and not concerned with the fact that their own communities are still tearing each other apart. How anyone who tries to strive for success is considered a selllout or ridiculed beyond belief. I read a story about an inner city HS in Philadelphia about a kid, good student studied hard, had his eye put out by 3 other students because he was "making them look bad" in class.....

 

[raybia]

I just try to be the best person I can. Some black people are so entangled how and why everyone else is keeping them back and not concerned with the fact that their own communities are still tearing each other apart. How anyone who tries to strive for success is considered a selllout or ridiculed beyond belief. I read a story about an inner city HS in Philadelphia about a kid, good student studied hard, had his eye put out by 3 other students because he was "making them look bad" in class.....

The number 1 thing holding back the African American community is OUR mentality.

As a result, it should be our #1 priority.

 

[R0rschach]

Charlie is in that last scenet:

Darkness everybody, DARKNESS!!

 

[chamber-music]

We also eat watermelon year round, and sing about how mammy's lil' baby loves shortening bread.

His not gonna understand the watermelon and shortening bread thing because outside of america they are not stereotypes of black people. In the same way saying boy or cracker isn't offensive outside the states because it was more of a focus of southern american slaves.

 

[Why Are You Crouching Spock?]

Over here a cracker is something you eat with cheese.
Short bread is nice, bit sugary though.

 

[chamber-music]

Over here a cracker is something you eat with cheese.
Short bread is nice, bit sugary though.

Exactly!

I've been explaining to my african american friend that you could walk up to any white person outside of american and call ther a cracker ant they would say "why are you calling me savory biscuit ?" lol

Scottish Shortbread rules

Nothing is as funny as the trauma of Glasgow though
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AM-DtAXBUpIt:

 

[SoulManX]

I just try to be the best person I can. Some black people are so entangled how and why everyone else is keeping them back and not concerned with the fact that their own communities are still tearing each other apart. How anyone who tries to strive for success is considered a selllout or ridiculed beyond belief. I read a story about an inner city HS in Philadelphia about a kid, good student studied hard, had his eye put out by 3 other students because he was "making them look bad" in class.....

Chris Rock said it best...

 

[raybia]

Chris Rock said it best...

What did he say?

 

[I SEE SPIDEY]

The number 1 thing holding back the African American community is OUR mentality.

As a result, it should be our #1 priority.

Exactly.

 

[Arkady Rossovich]

is that the same friend that told you in NY they all live in the projects of Brooklyn and the Bronx, and the whites and asians live in Queens, Manhattan, and the Hamptons?

He lives in New York yes.

With all this news about the return of racism,i'm waiting for something very ugly to come out.Like a lynching or beating.

 

[Abaddon]

Racism never left. The faces change, but it's all the same.