Body Dismorphic Disorder

I think everyone has some level of insecurity. But most people know how to deal with it or accept it.

Why do some people not have this ability? I mean, if you are obese for example, don't whinge about it or blame it on other people/things, get the **** up and do something about it. If you don't have the mental strength to do that, tough **** as far as i'm concerned... just don't be wanting my tax money to pay for your gastro surgery.

I do have sympathy with some people though. But everyone can get over their insecurities if they really try i reckon.
 
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I think everyone has some level of insecurity. But most people know how to deal with it or accept it.

Why do some people not have this ability? I mean, if you are obese for example, don't whinge about it or blame it on other people/things, get the **** up and do something about it. If you don't have the mental strength to do that, tough **** as far as i'm concerned... just don't be wanting my tax money to pay for your gastro surgery.

Yeah, everyone has the ability to deal with it/accept it, but for some this ability has been swamped by years of bullying and abuse, so it is harder for them to get a grip. That's why it can look like there are easy answers to others who have had no such comparable problems with self image and confidence.
What i am talking about goes further than usual insecurity, which can come and go, what i am talking about is a frame of mind that is with the person 24/7 for years and prevents them from engaging in normal activities like going outside the house.

yes, people have to want to help themselves, and no-one should be mollycoddled into thinking 'it's alright to be like this, you are sick.', the attitude should be 'you are sick, but let's do something about this, it may take time and will not be easy, but we have to start somewhere.'
 
Yea everyone can do it, it's just harder for others.

When i was younger, between the ages of 17 and 20 i think, i was in a right mess. Going out all the time getting wasted. But then i just, dunno, got it into my head to stop going out for a while, just taking it easy, and i'm much better for it now.
 
Yea everyone can do it, it's just harder for others.

When i was younger, between the ages of 17 and 20 i think, i was in a right mess. Going out all the time getting wasted. But then i just, dunno, got it into my head to stop going out for a while, just taking it easy, and i'm much better for it now.

yeah, that's good to hear, i wish i had done that at the same age, it took me until the age of 33 to stop doing that. the thing that kept me wasted for so long was that getting drunk or whatever helped me with my body dysmorphic issues, booze is a killer because it actually does work and give you confidence, in the short term, but it just makes the problem worse in the long, and i had to sort that out for myself.

going back to what you were saying about the gastro-op thing though...the thing is these eating disorders can be in the form of an addiction, that is hard to break and puts the person's life at risk.
So, saying 'tough ****, you're not getting the op' to such a person, could be much the same as saying to a cigarette smoker that they should not be operated on for lung cancer.

but if as you say it is only for the sake of the mind being at risk, not the body, well, i would have to disagree, i would give them the op if it meant they went on to live something akin to a normal life, instead of being stuck in the house contributing nothing to society.
if you now have a functioning person as a result of the op, surely those taxes that paid for it would be an investment well spent, if the person then went on to be active and work for their living, instead of sitting in the house ill, living on benefits and doing nothing productive.
 
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Yea but why should my tax money pay for someone who has become obese through sheer laziness and greed?

Now if they actually had a genetic condition that contributed to them being obese? Sure.

Like that bloke recently over here in England, he weighs something utterly, utterly ridiculous like 80 stone. And he wanted gastro surgery. Taxpayer money would have to pay for the operation AND specialist equipment like a reinforced bed.

Now why the **** should i pay for that? Just because he is lazy and greedy? I mean 80 ****ING STONE!?!?!!?!?! You'd think he'd realize he has gone too far when he hit 20 stone... but 80 stone!??! Tough **** i say.

And as for smokers wanting help for lung cancer? The difference is they are not allowed help until they have proved they have quit smoking completely.
 
And as for smokers wanting help for lung cancer? The difference is they are not allowed help until they have proved they have quit smoking completely.

there are plenty of people who are treated in hospital, with taxpayers money, who have smoking related illnesses and still smoke.
i know a guy who has some kind of life threatening respitory illness who has just come out of the hospital for the second time, and is still smoking.
he is going to be undergoing some drastic treatment to help him quit though, the kind of thing where your brain receptors are cut off from the 'hit' that tobacco gives you.

i didn't know they could kb you for lung cancer treatment if you are still smoking, i know you have to be 6months dry of the booze before they will put you on the list for a liver transplant, but have not heard of the smoking equivalent.

as for that 80stone guy...i don't know what the rules are for someone being elligible for such help...but i do know that if someone has been suffering genuine psychological truama that has been affecting their day to day life for a long time, that they will be elligible for surgery, and that i do agree with.
 
yeah, dude i'm not trying to insult you, but you do display a tendancy to have a closed mind due to petty personal prejudice.

going by what you have said in previous posts-

you dismiss any artist's work immediately if you don't like what they say in interviews.

Not any artist. There's just a handful, and even aside from my dislike of them, their art is unimpressive to me.

you dismiss the notion that someone who takes drugs/has had a drug problem could be intelligent, and dismiss anything they say as a rule.

Once again, Courtney Love has constantly come across as an out of touch loser. Obviously I don't know her, so I only have a bit to go off of. Also, taking drugs is hardly an intelligent action, and stupid is as stupid does.

you don't understand why talking in the cinema with your friends during a movie should be an activity that is frowned upon.

Also, again. :whatever: It's not "talking" as if we're having a loud conversation, it's occasional QUIET comments made during the movie, and regardless, anyone expecting extreme quiet in a public place is deluding themselves, and I go to the movies with my friends to watch the movie WITH MY FRIENDS which requires interaction.

and now you barrel into a thread immediately dismissing people's personal experience as bs, thinking you know it all and there is a very simple catch all solution to this thing you do not even deem as a true illness of the mind.

I never dismissed anyone's personal experience, and never said that there's a catch-all solution. I only expressed a personal concern and disgust for this all too common human condition to be considered a disorder, for reasons I have already explained.

I don't know where this problem you have with me comes from, but it's getting annoying to have you call me out on things I've said in the past that are unrelated to the conversation at hand. Sure, I do and say things that aren't exactly popular or particularly consistent, but that's the human condition, and despite the "Ferret" in my username, I am only human.
 
I never dismissed anyone's personal experience, and never said that there's a catch-all solution. I only expressed a personal concern and disgust for this all too common human condition to be considered a disorder, for reasons I have already explained.

yeah, you did, when you come into the thread with nothing more than the sweeping declaration, 'Things like this make me sick! Why does everything have to be a disorder?', you are belittling anything said from personal experience on the thread and basically saying that this condition of the mind is nothing serious.

I'll try explaining it one more time, as simply as i can...

there is a big diff between what you are talking about and the point the mind gets to when it is mentally ill with the problem.
the mind can become damaged after years of abuse, whether from outside sources or self inflicted, or a combination of both. When it gets to a certain point of damage you bet it's a 'disorder', as detrimental to the person's well being as any chemical imbalance a person can be born with.

it seems that you just don't seem to be able to grasp the fact that the mind can become damaged and disordered, because you have nothing more than a superficial grasp of the concepts i am talking about.

yeah, and telling people to just 'get over it' was your catch all solution.

I don't know where this problem you have with me comes from, but it's getting annoying to have you call me out on things I've said in the past that are unrelated to the conversation at hand. Sure, I do and say things that aren't exactly popular or particularly consistent, but that's the human condition, and despite the "Ferret" in my username, I am only human.

i don't have a problem personally with you, but if i find your opinions closed minded, then i will say so, i don't mean to insult you, but that's just the way your opinions on some matters are imo.

i mean, look at what you just said about drugs, you just immediately branded all drug use as 'stupid', as if all drugs are the same thing, and all users are of the same mindset, i don't see how this is anything remotely close to being 'open minded'.
and when you spoke of courtney love in that other thread, you said she should never be listened to because she was a known drug user, nothing else was needed for you to immediately cast out anything the person has to say.
 

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