Bone claws!?

[KillerBob]

The adamantium in the movies were not done at a cellular level. The extremely hot molten adamantium was merely overlayed onto his skeleton with a needle that we saw in X2.

1) You dont know how the adamantium was put in his skeleton, so stop making assumptions.
2) Shoving a needle in his bones would be really stupid. It wouldn't coat them in unbreakable metal, it would fill the bone marrow with adamantium, which I'm sure would not be a good idea.
3) You can't just cover someone's bones with adamantium because it would interfere with the organic processes that the bones have to fulfill. If his bones were covered in molten adamantium Wolverine would eventually die, or live the rest of his life in a state of near death.
4) Big tank in comics? check. Big tank in movies? check. I'd assume the rest of the bonding process is fairly close to the original. Especially since Cornelius and Hines are going to be there.

Also, a lot of the things that work so well in the comics doesn't mean they would go over as great in the movieverse. That is why the Shi'ar aren't trying to take over the world. Bone claws fit into that category.

BS. Dont try to compare the Shiar race and asteroid bases to Bone Claws. The two aren't even remotely similar. Bone Claws are a hell of a lot more believable. And they make more sense.

In X2 Stryker told Wolverine he gave him claws and in X3 Beast mentioned that he had been fighting for mutant rights before Wolverine had claws.

Stryker could have merely been referring to the fact that he fixed/replaced the broken Bone Claws with a better weapon, therefor he "gave Wolverine his claws."

And Beast obviously doesn't know dick about Wolverine or he wouldn't have called him "Boy." Beast, like everyone else in the original Marvel Universe naturally assumed the claws were artificial because they knew his skeleton was adamantium (from the Weapon X reports) and the claws were metal too. Beast knowing about Weapon X doesn't prove anything.

yea right...bones cannot cut through metal or we would be seeing Ron Poppeil selling bone knives on late night television. Even if Wolverine's original skeletal structure was so dense...then why did he need help from adamantium...after all....he can heal.

Dont try to argue that his bone are super dense. They were and it can be proved. That is why the claws could cut through metal. If a guy can throw his pointed bones into a tree and through Wolverine's shoulder in X3 no one will care that Wolverine's claws can cut stuff.

You need adamantium because bones take longer to heal than other injuries. Without worrying about the damaged bones the healing factor can stop blood loss, organ damage and other injuries. It also means you can't have your head or limbs cut off, which is useful.

Deadpool has a heling factor, but he had to be put on a rack once to fix his shattered skeleton. The bones wouldn't have healed right if he hadn't. Kid Flash had to have his knee rebroken in the teen titans because his enhanced healing kept trying to heal the bones while they were in a position that would keep him from using his leg correctly. So even with a healing factor it helps to have an unbreakable skeleton. And now you see why.

 

[KillerBob]

Tell me this, how can bone claws be stupid?

So weapon X gives him Claws, I could see that, but the biggest problem is how could he use them? Did weapon X give him extra muscles so he could extend the claws out of his hand? Because that seems a lot more stupid to me then having bone claws to begin with. Bone claws make sense, because otherwise, he never would be able to extend or sheathe his claws.

Excellent point. To allow Wolverine to extend and retract the claws he would need a giant switchblade mechanism implanted into his arm. Considering Movie Wolverine does not have enhanced strength like Comic Wolverine he would not be able to move his arms very fast at all with a 25 lbs "pop-box" in each forearm.

The "pop-box" would also restrict arm movement as it would have to be bolted down to his arm bones.

The "pop-box" would also have to be made of adamantium, or it would get damaged and leave Wolverine's weapons completely useless for the rest of his life. This is a huge waste of a very expensive metal. A more logical choice would be to just give him an adamantium sword or knife.

 

[Sentinel X]

Although I agree with most of the things you say since Im for bone claws..I must admit that there are NO assumptions...his bones are coated in ademantium. Remember in X2, were Wolvie was shot in the head...think about it, if it wasnt coated in ademantium he'd be having serious health issues. And you are taking the bone claw thing too literal, everyone knows it cant be done...in fact a lot of people are taking bone claws to seriously....I just want to remind a few this is still a comic book film...Not everything has to be proven because really none of this can actually happen. If his bones were coated in ademantium hed probably have problems moving and have serious blood deficiency but its all fiction so anything can be done.

 

[Infinity9999x]

Excellent point. To allow Wolverine to extend and retract the claws he would need a giant switchblade mechanism implanted into his arm. Considering Movie Wolverine does not have enhanced strength like Comic Wolverine he would not be able to move his arms very fast at all with a 25 lbs "pop-box" in each forearm.

The "pop-box" would also restrict arm movement as it would have to be bolted down to his arm bones.

The "pop-box" would also have to be made of adamantium, or it would get damaged and leave Wolverine's weapons completely useless for the rest of his life. This is a huge waste of a very expensive metal. A more logical choice would be to just give him an adamantium sword or knife.

Another good point. And even if they did give him a small "pop box" how does Wolverine activate it? Did they somehow connect neral implants leading from his brain to the box? That entire idea seems MUCH more far fetched then bone claws.

 

[chaseter]

1) You dont know how the adamantium was put in his skeleton, so stop making assumptions.
2) Shoving a needle in his bones would be really stupid. It wouldn't coat them in unbreakable metal, it would fill the bone marrow with adamantium, which I'm sure would not be a good idea.
3) You can't just cover someone's bones with adamantium because it would interfere with the organic processes that the bones have to fulfill. If his bones were covered in molten adamantium Wolverine would eventually die, or live the rest of his life in a state of near death.

1)You don't know how the adamantium was bonded to his bones either then so you quit making assumptions as well.
2)You can tell by the equipment in X2 that nothing was done on the cellular level. I never said they would shove a needle in his bones...that needle was to break the skin and cover his bones with the molten adamantium.
3)Covering his cut/sharpened bone claws with adamantium would interfere with the organic processes that his bones have to fulfill...that is what I have been arguing. That point is invalid and directly contradicts your theory.

BS. Dont try to compare the Shiar race and asteroid bases to Bone Claws. The two aren't even remotely similar. Bone Claws are a hell of a lot more believable. And they make more sense.
Stryker could have merely been referring to the fact that he fixed/replaced the broken Bone Claws with a better weapon, therefor he "gave Wolverine his claws."

Every single fact, character, and event in the comics are not realistic. Bone claws work for Wolverine in the comics, but not the movie verse. Go back and watch X1 when they take his x-ray. The x-ray Jean takes shows his bones as well as the adamantium coverings. You can see every bone in his body...but not bone claws. In X2 at Stryker's lab...you can see x-rays of Wolverine's and Lady D's hands. Guess what...no bone claws, just adamantium talons.

Deadpool has a heling factor, but he had to be put on a rack once to fix his shattered skeleton. The bones wouldn't have healed right if he hadn't. Kid Flash had to have his knee rebroken in the teen titans because his enhanced healing kept trying to heal the bones while they were in a position that would keep him from using his leg correctly. So even with a healing factor it helps to have an unbreakable skeleton. And now you see why.

Deadpool got his healing factor from Wolverine and Teen Titans certainly has absolutely no weight nor any matter relatable to Wolverine and the X-Men universe.

 

[Asteroid-Man]

Ok there YJ1, but bone claws are apart of wolverine. They are who he is, more then the adamantium. He has always had the bone claws, he was given metal to coat it later. So if your gonna just ignore the entire back story of Wolverine, I guesse your not a fan of him, then I begin to wonder why you are even in the Wolverine Movie Section of this forum Honestly man, the bones are moreapart of him then the metal. He is the bone, the metal is a gift

I stand by what I said a few page back but also I want o share something with you all...

 

[Asteroid-Man]

1) You dont know how the adamantium was put in his skeleton, so stop making assumptions.
2) Shoving a needle in his bones would be really stupid. It wouldn't coat them in unbreakable metal, it would fill the bone marrow with adamantium, which I'm sure would not be a good idea.
3) You can't just cover someone's bones with adamantium because it would interfere with the organic processes that the bones have to fulfill. If his bones were covered in molten adamantium Wolverine would eventually die, or live the rest of his life in a state of near death.
4) Big tank in comics? check. Big tank in movies? check. I'd assume the rest of the bonding process is fairly close to the original. Especially since Cornelius and Hines are going to be there.
BS. Dont try to compare the Shiar race and asteroid bases to Bone Claws. The two aren't even remotely similar. Bone Claws are a hell of a lot more believable. And they make more sense.
Stryker could have merely been referring to the fact that he fixed/replaced the broken Bone Claws with a better weapon, therefor he "gave Wolverine his claws."

And Beast obviously doesn't know dick about Wolverine or he wouldn't have called him "Boy." Beast, like everyone else in the original Marvel Universe naturally assumed the claws were artificial because they knew his skeleton was adamantium (from the Weapon X reports) and the claws were metal too. Beast knowing about Weapon X doesn't prove anything.
Dont try to argue that his bone are super dense. They were and it can be proved. That is why the claws could cut through metal. If a guy can throw his pointed bones into a tree and through Wolverine's shoulder in X3 no one will care that Wolverine's claws can cut stuff.

You need adamantium because bones take longer to heal than other injuries. Without worrying about the damaged bones the healing factor can stop blood loss, organ damage and other injuries. It also means you can't have your head or limbs cut off, which is useful.

Deadpool has a heling factor, but he had to be put on a rack once to fix his shattered skeleton. The bones wouldn't have healed right if he hadn't. Kid Flash had to have his knee rebroken in the teen titans because his enhanced healing kept trying to heal the bones while they were in a position that would keep him from using his leg correctly. So even with a healing factor it helps to have an unbreakable skeleton. And now you see why.

WOWOWO time out ther buddy. Ok The adimantium was cotted onto his bones with a pressure needle. Sure it doesn't make sense but its in the comic. And you are basically stating stuff that I could use comics to counter act. Look at my previous post, theres proof of the bone claws. THE END

 

[sc12een17am3]

THANK GOD Asteroid-Man for posting that

wolverine did have bone claws, so those who hate it, get over it... LOL

 

[chaseter]

^ We all know Wolverine had bone claws...we are not arguing that. The bone claws were introduced far far after Wolverine had his adamantium ripped out by Magneto, even longer after his Weapon X origin. A lot of people believe it was a cheap way by the writers to keep Wolverine active in the comics and able to fight and resemble the original adaptation. I myself believe that they should keep bone claws out of the movieverse for a lot of reasons.

 

[D-day]

^ We all know Wolverine had bone claws...we are not arguing that. The bone claws were introduced far far after Wolverine had his adamantium ripped out by Magneto, even longer after his Weapon X origin.

Erm... The bone claws were introduced in Wolverine #75 which was part of the Fatal Attractions story line in the early 90's. It was released about a week after X-men #25 in which Magneto ripped out the Adamantium.

 

[Asteroid-Man]

...you got told chaseter. And also, you fan-boys are always whining about comic films not being close to the comics right? Well heres is a perfectly good example and your pissed? Here's a quote from Quentin Tarantino from Wizard Magazine #155 "The reason I'll never do a comic book movie with, like, Flash or something like that is f--- those comic geeks, man. You can't please them. I might do a comic book movie, but I'd come up with my own characters where I'm God, and I'm the expert and not you guys." Before that pissed me off, but now I agree completly. Don't go to movies saying "Oh, wolverines origin was completly cheasy and off" "His hair style is nothing like in the comics" honestly, does it matter? GO watch it, FORGETTING the comics and ENJOY a GOOD MOVIE!
-Asteroid

 

[chaseter]

Erm... The bone claws were introduced in Wolverine #75 which was part of the Fatal Attractions story line in the early 90's. It was released about a week after X-men #25 in which Magneto ripped out the Adamantium.

Wolverine was first introduced in October 1974...adamantium claws and all. His little bone claws were not introduced to us until as you say the early 90's. Now you cannot sit there and tell me his bone claws were not just a ploy to allow Wolverine to stay a fighter in the comics after he lost his metal claws. How come it took 20 years for the writers to show us these magnificent bone claws??? Fatal Attractions was not released until 1993. And no Asteroid-Man I did not get "told".

 

[chaseter]

...you got told chaseter. And also, you fan-boys are always whining about comic films not being close to the comics right? Well heres is a perfectly good example and your pissed? Here's a quote from Quentin Tarantino from Wizard Magazine #155 "The reason I'll never do a comic book movie with, like, Flash or something like that is f--- those comic geeks, man. You can't please them. I might do a comic book movie, but I'd come up with my own characters where I'm God, and I'm the expert and not you guys." Before that pissed me off, but now I agree completly. Don't go to movies saying "Oh, wolverines origin was completly cheasy and off" "His hair style is nothing like in the comics" honestly, does it matter? GO watch it, FORGETTING the comics and ENJOY a GOOD MOVIE!
-Asteroid

Then why are you on here arguing for them???

 

[chaseter]

Can't wait to see this in the movie....

That is probably one of the corniest Wolverine pictures ever...

 

[ang_hulk]

I dont like it because I dont think its nessery and I dont like them changing continuity.It was mentioned(and again look at the props and replicas) that wolverines(movie) claws didnt have bone in them,they were added and weather you like it or not the line "i just gave you claws" was ment to reflect it.Even singers mentioned it as one of the changes he made.Ima sucker for this kind of thing and i think that change worked but o well,im sure it will make it to the wolverine film.

 

[Majik1387]

I honestly think it would be stupid for the claws not to be bone.

 

[X-Maniac]

The bone claws are fine. It makes sense that at some point Logan had bone claws and that the grafted adamantium followed the bone's natural pattern/template/tendency to form claws. I don't mind whether or not he has/had bone claws, as long as it makes sense in the story.

 

[D-day]

^The bone claws were introduced far far after Wolverine had his adamantium ripped out by Magneto

^ Thats what you posted! Its wrong! admit it! I think after 19 years of just having Wolverine running around slashing everybody to pieces it was good to see him as a more vulnerable character. I dont care if they only gave him bone claws to keep him on as a fighter, they only ripped the Adamantium out so that they could introduce them anyway. Its called character development!

Personally Id love to see them, as wether you like it or not, they are part of the characters history! I'm not saying he should have them for the whole film. Just at the beginning when he is a boy and his mutation first manifests itself.

 

[chaseter]

^ Thats what you posted! Its wrong! admit it! I think after 19 years of just having Wolverine running around slashing everybody to pieces it was good to see him as a more vulnerable character. I dont care if they only gave him bone claws to keep him on as a fighter, they only ripped the Adamantium out so that they could introduce them anyway. Its called character development!

Personally Id love to see them, as wether you like it or not, they are part of the characters history! I'm not saying he should have them for the whole film. Just at the beginning when he is a boy and his mutation first manifests itself.

Wolverine more vulnerable...mmmmk. After 19 years of Wolverine running around with adamantium claws and slashing everybody...now he can run around with bone claws and still slash everybody. No s*** it is character development. My point is that it wasn't planned out and only used as a way to keep him active in the comics. I am not arguing they don't work in the comics...I just don't think they would work in the movies. As I posted above...In X1 we got an x-ray of Wolverine by Jean. You can see all of his bones as well as the adamantium overlayings....no bone claws. In X2 we see x-rays of Wolverine's and Lady Deathstrike's hands...NO BONE CLAWS. Stryker said in X2 that he gave Wolverine claws and in X3 Beast said he was fighting for mutant rights before Wolverine had claws. There is a ton of evidence against bone claws in the movies. Yet the only thing bone claw enthusiasts have going for them is comic proof...no movie/continuity proof.

 

[Asteroid-Man]

tru dat brotha D-Day!

 

[Asteroid-Man]

Wolverine more vulnerable...mmmmk. After 19 years of Wolverine running around with adamantium claws and slashing everybody...now he can run around with bone claws and still slash everybody. No s*** it is character development. My point is that it wasn't planned out and only used as a way to keep him active in the comics. I am not arguing they don't work in the comics...I just don't think they would work in the movies. As I posted above...In X1 we got an x-ray of Wolverine by Jean. You can see all of his bones as well as the adamantium overlayings....no bone claws. In X2 we see x-rays of Wolverine's and Lady Deathstrike's hands...NO BONE CLAWS. Stryker said in X2 that he gave Wolverine claws and in X3 Beast said he was fighting for mutant rights before Wolverine had claws. There is a ton of evidence against bone claws in the movies. Yet the only thing bone claw enthusiasts have going for them is comic proof...no movie/continuity proof.

are you on something? Since his claws are bone they are vulnarable to breaking! He isnt invicible anymore! He can be broken and crushed now! Atleast let it show him developing his claws when he is young like D-Day said!

 

[D-day]

Not planned!? The whole bloody Fatal Attractions storyline came about as a way of getting the Adamantium removed from him! Yes other things happened in that storyline, just like they are in Civil War after Spidey unmasks but Fatal Attractions was the end result of the whole "Remove the Adamantium" idea.

 

[D-day]

Everybodies entitled to thier own view! Thats why I started this topic! The reason I'm arguing is because you said that he didnt get his bone claws untill ages after Mags ripped out his Adamantium. Which is absolute bulls***!

 

[chaseter]

Everybodies entitled to thier own view! Thats why I started this topic! The reason I'm arguing is because you said that he didnt get his bone claws untill ages after Mags ripped out his Adamantium. Which is absolute bulls***!

I typed that sentence wrong and you promptly corrected me. That is why in my subsequent post I stated when Wolverine was first introduced back in 1974, the Fatal Attraction and Origin comics coming a couple of decades after. I know everyone is entitled to their own view and I am stating mine and backing it up just as you are. But the topic isn't when, how, or why Wolverine got his bone claws...it is if they would work in the movie.

 

[chaseter]

are you on something? Since his claws are bone they are vulnarable to breaking! He isnt invicible anymore! He can be broken and crushed now! Atleast let it show him developing his claws when he is young like D-Day said!

Quiet a few posters on here are saying his bone claws are so dense that they can cut through rocks, trees, and some metals. Yes I am on something...I am high on all this preachy bone junk going on in here...even the advocates for it cannot agree.