Bought/Though July 5th, 2006 SPOILERS INSIDE...

[Doc Destruction]

That's an understatement. This is definitely the most negatively-oriented "fansite" forum I've ever seen in my life.

That's a load of crap. No one blasts anyone for their positive reviews, so you barely even notice them. I'd say it's 50/50.

 

[Darthphere]

That's a load of crap. No one blasts anyone for their positive reviews, so you barely even notice them. I'd say it's 50/50.

No, see the way it works is that complaining about people who complain aka are negative is much better.

 

[Kotagg]

I failed to mention this is also the only comic books forum I've ever visited, didn't I?

 

[THANOSRULES]

The Avengers board at comicsboards.com is the absolute most ridiculous moderated board in history...

say 1 thing remotely negative and you will be banned for life.

 

[GNR]

Im guessing you havent gone to the DC Comics boards, Newsarama, Comicbook Resources, The John Byrne Boards, Comicboards.com etc.

Newsarama and CBR aren't bad.I'd say compared to SHH,they're pretty much on the same level.

Jinxworld is probably the most laid back board online.Not a whole lot of flaming or arguing going on,and you can basically post anything you want to talk about.Very hard to get banned there unless you're really being an ass.

 

[Marcdachamp]

Newsarama and CBR aren't bad.I'd say compared to SHH,they're pretty much on the same level.

Jinxworld is probably the most laid back board online.Not a whole lot of flaming or arguing going on,and you can basically post anything you want to talk about.Very hard to get banned there unless you're really being an ass.

Very true. Jinxworld is an awesome board. Bendis puts up with a lot of our ****, lol. You can also type "****" which is cool.

I heard that if you say "John Byrne" in front of a mirror 5 times, he'll make you insult Chris Claremont.

 

[Darthphere]

Newsarama and CBR aren't bad.I'd say compared to SHH,they're pretty much on the same level.

Jinxworld is probably the most laid back board online.Not a whole lot of flaming or arguing going on,and you can basically post anything you want to talk about.Very hard to get banned there unless you're really being an ass.

Thats Bendis'board right? Either wya, you'll agree that this place isnt as bad a some people make it out to be. And of course if you really hate it that much nobody is forcing people to log on here.

 

[GNR]

Very true. Jinxworld is an awesome board. Bendis puts up with a lot of our ****, lol. You can also type "****" which is cool.

I heard that if you say "John Byrne" in front of a mirror 5 times, he'll make you insult Chris Claremont.

Oh yea,Bendis is hilarious over there.

 

[SpideyInATree]

SIAT's funkalicious week of comics! 7-6-06, Because of Independence Day. GRRR! I wasn't off work for Independence Day and neither should anybody else! GRR!! Anyhoo....

FRIDAY THE 13TH FEARBOOK # 1 -- Basic Jason Voorhees stuff. Though it continued the plot of the past couple miniseries which was nice for once. Jason gets his vengeance, kills everyone, and lots of brutal death scenes to boot. If you like this stuff, buy it, cherish it, and most of all...don't get kill by a guy who's inhuman and wearing a hockey mask. 6/10

UNCANNY X-MEN # 475 -- I wasn't going to get this because I made a pact with myself to only read Astonishing X-Men. But Brubaker has kicked so much ass on Captain America, got me into the character. And he's ruling ass on Daredevil. So, I took a chance simply because it was a small week of comics. I liked it, wasn't earth shatteringly great. Though I think, out of anything, I'm more confused than anything. I read Deadly Genesis so I have the basic idea of what's going on...but isn't Warpath dead? I'll stick with it and see how it goes....the cover was bad ass though. 7/10

BEYOND # 1 -- It was all right. How Kraven The Hunter is magically alive again bothers me, unless it's a different Kraven...and I thought even Kraven's son was dead during the Clone Saga. The idea is a little boring to me and the characters that were chosen are a little odd. I'd probably keep getting this if I weren't getting so many comics already, but I'm definitely passing on this miniseries, and NOT BECAUSE OF THE ENDING. Just...something that doesn't interest me what so ever. I need to make room for other things. 7/10

LAST PLANET STANDING # 5 OF 5 -- Nothing earth shattering here either. Just Tom Defalco and Pat Olliffe telling a straight forward Marvel event story, with Galactus trying to destory the world. Nothing new, nothing fancy. Just a fun story with the MC2 universe. It was good to see Spider-Girl sort of save the day though. But next week is what I'm looking forward to as Spider-Girl comes to a close, for now...at least. 6.5/10

THE THING # 8 -- Final issue of this series. And the question is "Why?". It had everything you wanted out of a comic. Drama, love interest, comedy, friendship. Adults and kids could both read this and highly enjoy it. But it was a great farewell issue. Nice touch with the Great Lakes...err...Champions. The Imp side story was really funny. And Ben finally getting some play, yeah, he deserves it. This issue was full on perfect and should prove to these ass clown editors at Marvel who they're top writer really is. 10/10

MARVEL TEAM UP # 22 -- If it wasn't for Kirkman telling a good story I'd have dropped this book a couple issues ago. Man, is this artwork just HARD TO TAKE. This book is close to the chopping block, how about put an artist on there who ISN'T going to ruin the story. Would be nice. Titannus looks to be coming back, and that spells trouble. And I hope that Freedom Ring pulls through, maybe see more of him later on in the series... 7.5/10

DETECTIVE COMICS # 821 -- Wow. Great debut for the new creative team. Excellent plotline and a, surprising, one-shot story. Wait, it's not a six issue arc that can be collected into a trade paper back?! MY WORD! Art was good though the white flashes that showed the contact of the kicks and punches was rather annoying and took away from the art. But nicely tuned story, with an interesting new villain. I highly recommend this to anyone, even if you're not into Batman...it may get you into the character. Next issue, the new Riddler. Bring it. 9.5/10

THE PUNISHER # 35 -- Now on the other hand. We've got the lovely padded six issue arcs. While Ennis does a good job at it, I really think this Barracuda storyline could have been wrapped up a little sooner than this. Basically it was just Barracuda getting on Dermot's side, and wedging between him and the *****. Little Punisher in this issue, but he is on his way to deal out the punishment that a lot of the characters in this book deserve. Next issue is what I've been waiting for, too bad it TOOK SO LONG. 7/10

52 WEEK 9 -- Nicely balanced with the plot lines here. Though Delivance really reminds me of Galactus, and it's hard for me to take it seriously. But Adam Strange is bad ass, and that's all that counts. The Question returned to 52 this week, thank God, and approached Montoya in the lesbian bar, haha. Though I like how Montoya is just as confused as the reader is about The Question, hopefully we learn more about him. And Steel, I hope, gets Luthor because he's really getting on my nerves. And hopefully Natasha wises up and sees Luthor is using her, how she didn't realize he was a bad guy to begin with anyway is beyond me...but it wouldn't be a story if she didn't blindly go into getting superpowers. Hopefully, Animal Man, Adam Strange and Starfire get off that planet soon. Delivance is just way too much of a Galactus rip off for my tastes.

I highly recommend people get into 52 as soon as possible. It's probably one of the best books being put out on the stands, and it doesn't even have the top 3 DC characters in the book, all a bunch of lesser known characters carrying this well written and thought out series. Marvel eat your heart out, never thought I'd see DC beat Marvel at it's own game. 9/10

 

[Dwarf lord]

Im guessing you havent gone to the DC Comics boards, Newsarama, Comicbook Resources, The John Byrne Boards, Comicboards.com etc.

Comic book resources is awful. All they do is complain, unlike here where there is just a lot of complaining. The only time you hear good things is in the creator forums. I guess that's the only good part about having not many creators here. Everythings more or less honest.

 

[Genesis 1.0]

Thats Bendis'board right? Either wya, you'll agree that this place isnt as bad a some people make it out to be. And of course if you really hate it that much nobody is forcing people to log on here.

You said you'd kill my puppy if I didn't log in so you could pawn me.

No but seriously, I tangle with Darth, Doc, and the rest on a regular basis and things remain open, not uncomfotable. Sure there's alot of complaining, but fans of anything complain. I'd rather deal with opposition than some sausage fest.

 

[Darthphere]

You said you'd kill my puppy if I didn't log in so you could pawn me.

No but seriously, I tangle with Darth, Doc, and the rest on a regular basis and things remain open, not uncomfotable. Sure there's alot of complaining, but fans of anything complain. I'd rather deal with opposition than some sausage fest.

I love you too. Yeah, ive been to boards, creator owned boards speicifcally and all people do is kiss the guy's ass.

 

[MyPokerShirt]

The irony is painful.

oh grow up *******, all i've ever done against you is put an opinion across that wasnt yours. seriously grow up. what are you anyway? like 30? jeesus

 

[Colossal Spoons]

Jeeeesus has nuthin to do with your squabble

 

[MyPokerShirt]

Hmmm, usually when people start beating the CAPS button like it stole something, it means you've hit a nerve. That's truly unfortunate. But it's cool, I know it's difficult to come out of that nice comfortable shell, how scary it is to actually get out and do some legwork...actually I don't, but don't worry about it bro. On a side note, if you don't agree with anyone (which happens to be a big ass lie, I'm talking J-Lo big) then maybe you should find a new method.

seriously what are you on about?? what is this legwork i havnt done? what is it about me listening to people's recommendations that offends you? and since when have you seen me agree with anybody lately? lol.

 

[Dread]

BEYOND # 1 -- It was all right. How Kraven The Hunter is magically alive again bothers me, unless it's a different Kraven...and I thought even Kraven's son was dead during the Clone Saga. The idea is a little boring to me and the characters that were chosen are a little odd. I'd probably keep getting this if I weren't getting so many comics already, but I'm definitely passing on this miniseries, and NOT BECAUSE OF THE ENDING. Just...something that doesn't interest me what so ever. I need to make room for other things. 7/10

THE THING # 8 -- Final issue of this series. And the question is "Why?". It had everything you wanted out of a comic. Drama, love interest, comedy, friendship. Adults and kids could both read this and highly enjoy it. But it was a great farewell issue. Nice touch with the Great Lakes...err...Champions. The Imp side story was really funny. And Ben finally getting some play, yeah, he deserves it. This issue was full on perfect and should prove to these ass clown editors at Marvel who they're top writer really is. 10/10

MARVEL TEAM UP # 22 -- If it wasn't for Kirkman telling a good story I'd have dropped this book a couple issues ago. Man, is this artwork just HARD TO TAKE. This book is close to the chopping block, how about put an artist on there who ISN'T going to ruin the story. Would be nice. Titannus looks to be coming back, and that spells trouble. And I hope that Freedom Ring pulls through, maybe see more of him later on in the series... 7.5/10

52 WEEK 9 -- Nicely balanced with the plot lines here. Though Delivance really reminds me of Galactus, and it's hard for me to take it seriously. But Adam Strange is bad ass, and that's all that counts. The Question returned to 52 this week, thank God, and approached Montoya in the lesbian bar, haha. Though I like how Montoya is just as confused as the reader is about The Question, hopefully we learn more about him. And Steel, I hope, gets Luthor because he's really getting on my nerves. And hopefully Natasha wises up and sees Luthor is using her, how she didn't realize he was a bad guy to begin with anyway is beyond me...but it wouldn't be a story if she didn't blindly go into getting superpowers. Hopefully, Animal Man, Adam Strange and Starfire get off that planet soon. Delivance is just way too much of a Galactus rip off for my tastes.

I highly recommend people get into 52 as soon as possible. It's probably one of the best books being put out on the stands, and it doesn't even have the top 3 DC characters in the book, all a bunch of lesser known characters carrying this well written and thought out series. Marvel eat your heart out, never thought I'd see DC beat Marvel at it's own game. 9/10

Comments:

- The Kraven that is featured in BEYOND! is "Al" Kravenoff, yet another child of the original Kraven who is somehow about the same age he was, who popped up back during the late 90's. The original Kraven is still dead, and his first kid, the "Grim Hunter", is also still dead. This Kraven is the one that had a mini a few years ago that was almost universally lambasted. I like his design in BEYOND!, though, it beats the ballet slippers. My review is naturally on the second page before all the fighting. I liked BEYOND!, but to each their own.

- Unfortunately, the one thing THE THING didn't have is sales. Of course, Marvel really didn't help it out much, but that's another story. Was a great book that didn't deserve its fate. Hopefully the trade sells like gangbusters.

- Don't worry about Freedom Ring in MTU; he's due to get into gear and back into fighting by the last issue of the arc at least, according to solicts. I agree on the art, just because the book is on its last legs doesn't mean they couldn't have gotten a better artist. I miss Medina on that title.

- 52 does indeed rock, and I was glad the Question returned, too.

 

[Darthphere]

I wonder what the Thing sales numbers look at the retail level.

 

[Dread]

I wonder what the Thing sales numbers look at the retail level.

You mean how individual shops do in sales with it? It probably varies. In some stores, some books that normally don't show up on the Top 10 or even 50 are popular and said store can sell maybe a few dozen copies every month. Other shops, they may barely be able to turn over a half dozen. I figure it, like many other smaller books, just got lost in the shuffle. I know at my LCS, THE THING was one of those books where I'd be surprised if they got more than 9-10, kind of like MTU. Of course, that means that those books are usually the first to go, as they're not ordered in the mass numbers as something that the stops sell a lot of, like 52 or CIVIL WAR or an ALL-STAR issue, are.

 

[Darthphere]

Yeah I went to my store and another this week and they were both sold out of The Thing and my friend who goes to another store told me the same.

 

[Dread]

Yeah, if the store knows they can't sell more than, say, 6 issues of something a month, then they'll only order about that many and then that comic may be gone very quickly, even if it is a worse seller. That's why its harder finding back issues of INVINCIBLE than it is, say, ALL-STAR BATMAN in some ways. The hot books get overordered, the cold books get underordered. Its simple economics.

 

[Darthphere]

If anything it shows theres a solid fanbase howevere small it may be.

 

[Lactophiliac]

If anything it shows theres a solid fanbase howevere small it may be.

Which would be a good thing if there was away to make the comic for a cheaper price that the small loyal audience could pay for. The only way to do something like that would be to make it black and white (which I doubt Marvel would do), hire a less qualified artist(Which it seems they tired out), and pay the writer less money (Not really fair to Mr. Slott).

As long as making comics is a business comics with small fan bases aren't going to cut it with Marvel, it's something of a shame but also understandable

 

[SpideyInATree]

Comments:

- The Kraven that is featured in BEYOND! is "Al" Kravenoff, yet another child of the original Kraven who is somehow about the same age he was, who popped up back during the late 90's. The original Kraven is still dead, and his first kid, the "Grim Hunter", is also still dead. This Kraven is the one that had a mini a few years ago that was almost universally lambasted. I like his design in BEYOND!, though, it beats the ballet slippers. My review is naturally on the second page before all the fighting. I liked BEYOND!, but to each their own.

- Unfortunately, the one thing THE THING didn't have is sales. Of course, Marvel really didn't help it out much, but that's another story. Was a great book that didn't deserve its fate. Hopefully the trade sells like gangbusters.

- Don't worry about Freedom Ring in MTU; he's due to get into gear and back into fighting by the last issue of the arc at least, according to solicts. I agree on the art, just because the book is on its last legs doesn't mean they couldn't have gotten a better artist. I miss Medina on that title.

- 52 does indeed rock, and I was glad the Question returned, too.

Ah, ha! That's right. It slipped my mind about that second son that Kraven "apparently" had. Why can't they just let a good thing die sometimes? *sigh*

Well, The Thing proved one thing, that Dan Slott is an amazing writer and probably one of the strongest writers that Marvel has right now. Consistent. On time. And doesn't have his head up his ass.

I'm glad that somebody else is disgusted by the artwork in Marvel Team Up. Yeah, Medina was good on the book but I really miss Kolins, wish he would have stayed on for the run of it. This is another book, and another writer...Robert Kirkman...that doesn't get the attention that it truly deserves.

 

[gildea]

If anything it shows theres a solid fanbase howevere small it may be.

Thats an excellent point actually. (i'll try and explain my thinking).

It is possible IMO that many store may not order that many (or any at all) thing due to the complete lack of hype. Therefore it may be possible that it sales are generated from fewer stores which took a chance on it and it sells a relative stack.

Probably only a theory but hey hoe.

 

[Dread]

Ah, ha! That's right. It slipped my mind about that second son that Kraven "apparently" had. Why can't they just let a good thing die sometimes? *sigh*

Because Kraven the Hunter is amung Spider-Man's A-List villians. Think about it; any time one of his A-List has died, whether it be Kraven, Doc Ock or Green Goblin, they always return in some fashion. That's the way it is for A-List baddies. I mean, how many times has The Joker cheated death? Magneto? Dr. Doom? Its one of those things one has to deal with.

Medusa's reaction to Spidey's death is still surprising. I mean, Gravity, Dr. Pym and Wasp have all battled alongside Spider-Man before, so I could understand them being effected. Firebird is a noble Catholic heroine, so naturally something like that would move her. The others, I guess they were "shocked". But Medusa was in TEARS. The only thing she ever did with Spider-Man was fight him once during the Silver Age (but honestly, who hasn't either fought with or alongside Spider-Man at this point?). Maybe it was because she was simply a compassionate person who didn't like watching someone die before her? Was it because Spidey's "dying" words were to her, confusing her with his wife? Or what? It was just surprising because most Marvel comics have other heroes treat Spider-Man like garbage at worst and like a nuisance at best. So it was shocking to see a bunch of random figures almost treating it like Venom just killed Superman. Go McDuffie!

Well, The Thing proved one thing, that Dan Slott is an amazing writer and probably one of the strongest writers that Marvel has right now. Consistent. On time. And doesn't have his head up his ass.

Frankly that was true before THE THING, but yes, that just cements it. I hope his next stab at an ongoing later this year goes well.

I'm glad that somebody else is disgusted by the artwork in Marvel Team Up. Yeah, Medina was good on the book but I really miss Kolins, wish he would have stayed on for the run of it. This is another book, and another writer...Robert Kirkman...that doesn't get the attention that it truly deserves.

Kolins is fine, but I actually preferred Medina on the title, his work just seemed more energetic and fluid to me. But of course, like any decent artist, he was whisked off for an X-book and Kuhn's here to fill in. Heck, I'd have preferred Walker who drew the "1991" story a few issues back.