Bought/Thought April 1st - SPOILERS

[TheCorpulent1]

Agents of Atlas is awesome. The last issue was really good. Too bad Pags isn't on the art anymore.

Clayton Henry's still pretty awesome.

 

[Mr. Green]

True that.

 

[iloveclones]

If I was basing of the X-Men it would kinda suck but the main story so far has been excellent. Reread, and keep that stuff out of your mind and I think you'll turn around on this.

Just re-read both this weekend. Awesome. I liked it enough that I may go back and read Kingbreaker again.


That was the sound of 'clones jumping on board ......and apparently talking in the third person :

 

[RockSP]

"Oh, Darkhawk is a space cop too, just, uh, from a different race. Yeah." That's like having the Green Lantern Corps have competition from non-GL's.

It's been done. Darkstars.

 

[Mr. Green]

Heh, that's a pretty obvious example too.

 

[Dread]

Agents of Atlas is awesome. The last issue was really good. Too bad Pags isn't on the art anymore.

He's back with #5 (since the book is double-shipping next month).

Clayton Henry's still pretty awesome.

A double dose of AGENTS OF ATLAS will be good. I like Clayton Henry's work and usually enjoy it outside the X-Men books, where it fits better.

It's been done. Darkstars.

I see. Looked them up on wikipedia, they look rather generic. Token guys in space armor. I was hoping for more from a Darkhawk retcon, but we'll see.

 

[TheCorpulent1]

Where does it say Darkhawk is a space cop? I figured he was part of some elite guard for one specific race or something.

It's been done. Darkstars.

Has LEGION ever crossed paths with the GLs? It seems like an obvious conflict waiting to happen (before LEGION was hijacked from Vril, anyway).

 

[Dread]

Where does it say Darkhawk is a space cop? I figured he was part of some elite guard for one specific race or something.

In WAR OF KINGS: DARKHAWK #2,

Spoiler

Talon claims that their race, the "Raptors", are supposed to defend the cultures of the universe and that means protecting them from being destroyed, such as in giant space wars like the one about to begin between the Kree/Inhumans and the Shi'ar, who are being led into conquest by Vulcan. Therefore, I see that as "space cops". Really not much different than what Xanadar did with the Nova Corps after a while.

 

[RockSP]

Where does it say Darkhawk is a space cop? I figured he was part of some elite guard for one specific race or something.

I don't guess he's a cop, exactly. He's an "architect of the universal fate"...whatever that means.

Has LEGION ever crossed paths with the GLs? It seems like an obvious conflict waiting to happen (before LEGION was hijacked from Vril, anyway).

Doesn't legion patrol that sector that's supposed to be off limits to GLs?

 

[TheCorpulent1]

There's a region that's off-limits to the GLC? I thought that only Apokolips was.

In WAR OF KINGS: DARKHAWK #2,

Spoiler

Talon claims that their race, the "Raptors", are supposed to defend the cultures of the universe and that means protecting them from being destroyed, such as in giant space wars like the one about to begin between the Kree/Inhumans and the Shi'ar, who are being led into conquest by Vulcan. Therefore, I see that as "space cops". Really not much different than what Xanadar did with the Nova Corps after a while.

I remember that now. It didn't bother me because, unlike the Green Lantern Corps at DC, Marvel doesn't have any one body of heroes whose reach extends across the entire universe. The Nova Corps was initially just the Xandarian military until they expanded to protect allied civilizations. Where the GLC is one large entity with all of space as its "beat," the Marvel cosmos is much more fragmented, like a medieval feudal system, with warring civilizations that each have their own interests and protectors. The Nova Corps existed for Xandar and its allies, Quasar tried to protect the entire universe all on his own, and now we've got the Raptors who apparently protected some other bit of space.

Personally, that system feels much more realistic to me than one set of protectors who are universally recognized as a legal authority. Frankly, I've always felt the Guardians border on tyrants, since I doubt any of the ruling bodies of those worlds actually asked them to set a bunch of unimaginably powerful jerkwads buzzing around their worlds to interfere in their affairs.

 

[RockSP]

There's a region that's off-limits to the GLC?

Yep. The Vega system (I think). Wherever the Omega Men hang out at.

 

[TheCorpulent1]

Oh, right, because of the Spider Clan or the Khunds or something. Okay.

 

[Dread]

That is a fair point, actually. I hadn't looked at it quite like that. Still, overlapping is a bit of a problem for superhero characters even if it is realistic, so I will be curious where ASCENSION takes things, since Talon may not be 100% trustworthy for all we know.

Like, why do we need 3-5 teams of overlapping X-Men teams? It gets like that if it isn't handled well. "Oh, another race of space cops."

 

[TheCorpulent1]

Mentors never are, it seems.

 

[Dread]

It is true how much of a storyline cliche it is, isn't it?

 

[TheCorpulent1]

Not quite as bad as long-lost relatives, which is my current narrative arch-nemesis, but it's up there.

 

[RockSP]

It gets like that if it isn't handled well. "Oh, another race of space cops."

According to this Talon dude, he and Darkhawk are the only two left. And from his description they don't really come across as cops:

"[We] safeguard the advance of galactic culture. We influence, we adjust, we shape,we improve. We are the curators of history and the custodians of the future"

It almost sounds like they want to take over...

 

[TheCorpulent1]

It sounds like they're stodgy academics to me.

 

[RockSP]

^^That'll make for some exciting space action!!

 

[Dread]

It sounds like academics turned space cops to me.

And I agree, long-lost relatives are my nemesis, too.

 

[THANOSRULES]

Dread,

You seem over hostile to the Darkhawk origin retcon...

I'm cool with it...at least he's being worked with..which is a ****ing miracle unto itself.

 

[sandwraith]

I dunno...Raptors..."Talon"...Dark"hawk....sounds very Avian-ish to me and considering that the Shi'ar are primarily a race of Evolved Avians, I suspect DnA are trying to tie the Darkhawk legacy to the Shi'ar. Maybe the Raptors were like the Templars of the Shi'ar Empire, or one of their attempts to counter the Phoenix?

 

[TheCorpulent1]

I thought of that, but they already have the Imperial Guard. I mean, really, how many legions of powerhouses do the Shi'ar really need?

 

[Themanofbat]

Well, I don't usually post in these threads, but I'd like to add that I just read Dead of Night: WereWolf by Night #4 , and as a whole, the story was ok... some new tweaks to Jack Russell's history... I'm cool with it, though it seems that Jack's step-sister Lisa from the 70's series seems to have been "dropped"... I'm hoping that's not the case, nonetheless, it was a decent tale, as the two previous "Dead of Night" stories have been, and I hope that sales will make Marvel pay attention to its monster/horror line... in this day & age of finicky buyers, I doubt that a Man-Thing on-going could survive 12 issues ( ), but for the time being, I'll be happy with these mini's.

At the end of the story, Jack is still under lock & key from his capturors with the hopes that his now 10 year old daughter, having been afflicted with the "curse", will come to save him... This mini presented Jack (artistically) more like his 70's look as opposed to the horrendous 90's "upgraded" look... ugh... which was greatly appreciated by this old timer.

In any event, Marvel has so much potential here ala Vertigo with their horror characters that I hope they continue to make these books... and maybe some people will buy them and/or pick them up via trades...

Cheers...

Mike

 

[RockSP]

The art was incredible in that Werewolf by Night mini...looking forward to more from Suyan (sp). It appeared to be an out-of-continuity tale to me, so the step-sister isn't really an issue.