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Bought/Thought for 3/3/10 (SPOILERS WITHIN!!)

Dread

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Quite a short week for comics for me, and next week might be even shorter. This means one thing. There are 5 Wednesdays this month, and I imagine two of them will be quite heavy to make up for the light weeks. Feast or famine publishing at it's finest. As always, spoilers and rants are unfiltered.

Dread's Bought/Thought for 3/3/10:

INVINCIBLE IRON MAN #24:
After 5 issues, Tony Stark finally awakes from his coma. He sends the Ghost packing and seems set to make a new suit of armor. Stunning stuff, no? No.

This marks two fill years that Fraction/Larroca/D'Armata have collaborated on this series without running late or needing a fill in artist. While it's no record set to challenge Lee/Kirby on FF or Bendis/Bagley on USM, but it still is a commendable feat in today's day and age. Larroca and D'Armata are solid as always on art, and to be fair, these "psychic metaphor" issues have really played to some of the artistic strengths of this team. Unfortunately, while Fraction is often great with individual moments and lines, but on this title has seemed to stretch his last two arcs at least one issue too long, and "Stark Disassembled" qualifies. This entire exercise has been to cleanse Tony Stark of his sins from CIVIL WAR and INITIATIVE. To purge him of memories and urges and have him go, "oh my god, what have I done, I am so sorry, now let's be a straight up super hero again". Can you tell a movie is coming out? But, in all seriousness, it doesn't go as far as, say, ONE MORE DAY went with Spider-Man, as all of these events still happened. It made perfect, honorable sense for Stark to do anything possible to prevent Osborn from gaining access to his weaponry, or the data in his own head. It also made dramatic sense for Stark's solution to "revive" himself didn't go according to plan; Dr. Strange had to try to give him a poke with magic, basically.

(Marvel is still woefully inconsistent with Dr. Strange these days. While all parties agree he is no longer the Sorcerer Supreme, none agree on his power level. In some books, Stephan can barely cast a low level spell. In others, like a JMS issue of THOR, he basically has the same power level, just lost the fancy title and some of his artifacts. In these issues, Fraction writes him a bit in-between. He still can perform any magical feat the story requires, but he isn't quite up to old Defender levels. The irony is THIS has always been the problem with Dr. Strange, and Marvel's heavy handed, scorched earth solution to his dilemma has done absolutely NOTHING towards correcting it, because the flaw was in editorial guidance, not in the character.)

At any rate, the Ghost finally finds the comatose Stark, but takes his time just killing him. True, he is distracted by Potts, and Hill, and Dr. Strange's fisticuffs, but it does seem wholly obligatory that Stark has the time to recover. Naturally, in his mind, Stark is confronted with his dead friends (like Happy) and the legacy of blood that his family has, and vows to do better. These are central themes to the character, although they are hardly new ones.

Part of me thinks that resurrection stories have become so drawn out and melodramatic, that I would actually like to see the reverse happen at some point. Say, someone wants to resurrect Namorita. Rather than it becoming some 5-6 issue angst ridden melodrama, it works within ten pages, everyone is pleased, and they go out for brunch. I think that reverse tract would seem more original, and at least play to reader experience and expectation. C'mon, just once.

Still, there are those good moments with Hill, Potts, Strange, and even Ghost himself. Between this and THUNDERBOLTS, the Iron Man C-Lister has started cementing himself into B-List status. I actually don't care for his weird helmet, but at least it makes him look more distinct. He'll be the only mainstay in the next squad of THUNDERBOLTS, and they haven't had one of those in a while, since Moonstone left. It does tie in well with THUNDERBOLTS, which 'ported Ghost back into Asgard with the rest of his squad. It does seem weird that Stark would be thrilled with Ghost being in the next T-Bolts squad led by Luke Cage, but then again, it's weird that Crossbones and Man-Thing will be there, too. Jeff Parker is either a genius, or losing his mind.

At any rate, the issue ends as expected, some fine moments but no real surprises. I think Fraction has to start to edit himself to be a bit more concise. Still, new armor next issue, and in May, "IRON MAN 2".

MIGHTY AVENGERS #34: Easily overshadowing IIM this week, Dan Slott and fill in artist Neil Edwards (alongside two inkers, often a sign of rush) wrap up the final issue before the SIEGE tie-in's start. While AVENGERS and a relaunch of NEW AVENGERS are confirmed, Brubaker's SECRET AVENGERS is also confirmed and some sort of relaunch of Christos Gage's A:TI (possibly as "AVENGERS ACADEMY") has been rumored, there has been nothing but dead silence about the possibility of Slott doing an Avenger title beyond May. In that case, these last few issues until #36 right really be it for the Dan Slott run. That finality may be a bad thing, but they do add some intensity to the issues. This issue wraps up some subplots from his run before Ultron seems set to wrap it up.

I've been more than opinionated about how the whole situation with Thor, Loki, and Balder has been depicted and executed by JMS and others. To restate it in a concise matter, I don't have a problem with Loki living up to his name and tricking/manipulating Thor. My problem is that Thor and Balder are never suspicious enough, nor to they ever try to follow up or investigate anything on their own, so it makes them look dumber while making Loki's trickery less impressive. To use a crude example, it is akin to the cartoon WOLVERINE AND THE X-MEN trying to establish Wolverine as a good leader by bending over backwards to paint Cyclops as a walking pile of faults. The problem is that if Wolverine's feat is merely overcoming someone incompetent, then his feat loses luster. Thor and Balder should assume that nothing Loki ever says is the truth, and that nothing he does is for any motive beyond his own personal advancement, often at the expense of others. It is all he is, was, or ever shall be.

Slott to his credit does handle that pathos fairly well. When Loki begs Thor to "save him" from the Mighty Avengers, Thor is skeptical and more than once describes Loki as a thorn in his side. At the same time, Hank Pym manages to weird out everyone in this issue, and to be fair, Thor does walk into a situation that he wouldn't, and doesn't, condone.

Since the start of Slott's run on the title, Loki has manipulated the Avengers, irked that he accidentally led to the team being formed in the first place and this time wanting a squad he can manipulate directly. To that end he has posed as Scarlet Witch, and while not quite getting the roster he wanted, and while he has directed them towards legitimate threats like the demon Chthon, Loki has steered them towards his own ends. The last two issues painted that perfectly, with him using the MA as pawns to manipulate Osborn a bit more. He also sought to kill both Stature and Quicksilver when they got too close to discovering his ruse (along with the rest of the Young Avengers like a raving lunatic). In this issue, Pietro finally learns the secret about "Wanda", and doesn't take it well at all. The Avengers head to a realm which Loki annually visits, and after spanking some trolls, Pym constructs a machine that not only traps Loki, but tortures him. While Pym is willing to zap Loki to try to get answers out of him, Pietro takes things too far, and is all but willing to kill Loki to get answers that may not be there. Loki admits to merely taking Wanda's form, not personally having anything to do with her.

Loki tries to turn the team against each other, and to a degree has a point about the balance of power shifting if a "mortal" like Pym can build a machine that turns gods into slaves. Pym justifies it by stating he works for Eternity, with Loki trying to claim credit for that as well. Thor arrives, and is appalled at the Avengers torturing his brother (or any captive really), but the idea of Pym "sullying" the name of the Wasp, which Thor takes very seriously (as he respected Janet). The rest of the team, namely Stature, also disagrees with the idea of torture. Guess they don't watch "24". While Thor has usually allowed Loki to be punished by Loki or any other Norse mythological deity or being if it came to it, and has killed Loki once himself, he does take some offense at Pym and Pietro being the ones to do it. This subplot of even Thor having a bit of "godly arrogance" to him, thinking mortals should have their place, popped up for a moment in Giffen's THOR issues with Dr. Doom, and Slott seems to pick up that ball here. If anything, one could argue Thor would be especially sensitive about Pym's treatment of Loki given what he saw Doom doing to other Asgardians, even making a bastard version of the Destroyer armor. Way back when, Iron Man even made a "Thorbuster" armor with some magical crap thrown in (that lasted about as long as all of Stark's "Hulkbuster" armors, maybe 12 seconds).

But the real show stopper is in the final pages, when despite picking a fight with the FF, making out with Jocasta, taking his wife's codename and whatnot, finally accomplishes the feat of repulsing the members of Pym's team. In fact this is the second version of this review I have written and I still am not entirely sure how I think about it; Pym offering Loki a legitimate spot on the team. While he has a point of Loki always being a part of the equation, part of it read as shocking for the sake of being shocking. If Osborn is a madman for trusting Loki so much, how can Pym be much better for even opening that door (although to be fair, Osborn is a madman for many other reasons)? Pym mentions villains becoming Avengers before, but none were on the level of Loki. Off the top of my head, the worst I can think of was Sandman, and that was brief, and he was trying to genuinely reform at the time (working for Silver Sable's Wild Pack for years). The Avengers have accepted aid from Kang or Immortus at times, but they've never been actual members of the team. Wonder Man technically started out as member of the Masters of Evil (and a white collar criminal), but that's small fish compared to Loki (and besides, Simon really wasn't evil like the Masters, and sacrificed himself immediately when we saw their scheme to kill the Avengers in full). Loki did try to kill teenage heroes in cold blood for nothing more than inching close to unveiling his ruse (neither Stature or Barton knew "who" Scarlet Witch was; for all they knew it was Mystique on MGH). On the other hand, this is supposedly a new Hank Pym, who doesn't seek to answer for his weirdness, but embraces it. The downside of that is being, well, weird.

The move backfires, and everyone leaves the squad except for Jocasta, and technically Jarvis (the butler who can throw a mean uppercut if he has to). Which is naturally at the worst time, as Ultron is set to awaken once more. With the MA roster dwindled to two, that actually creates a lot of suspense for the Ultron issues. Normally, beating Ultron has required an entire team effort; even for the "Lady Ultrona" version Bendis created, and especially after ANNIHILATION CONQUEST. Naturally, Hercules and Cho are busy with their own book. The interesting thing is that all of these members who walked off, including Walker, who Osborn "fired" last issue, appear in THUNDERBOLTS. I am curious how it ties in. I suppose it works that if Cho got a signal like he did in issue #140, he would leave Pym out of the loop after this while assembling the members he could. I mean, why not? He did assemble the Renegades. I imagine the SIEGE issues may have Slott's side of things in that matter as well.

The artwork is fine, although the two inkers seem to have distinct inking talents and one can tell some difference in the inks of some pages. If this will be the end of Slott on Avengers, I am curious how he intends to wrap things up in two issues. That said, and while I have enjoyed Slott's Avengers run (more than any Bendis Avengers run), I have found Gage's A:TI more consistent overall since he has run it solo. If faced with a world without either, I think I would actually miss A:TI more, and that's really weird to think for me. Just not as weird as offering Loki an Avengers membership.

AMAZING SPIDER-MAN BRAND NEW DAY YEARBOOK #1: About two years old, but who is keeping track? This is a one-shot that has a "saga" that summarizes the first "season" of BRAND NEW DAY, as well as 22 pages of Handbook bio's featuring many of his new enemies as well as updates on old ones, such as Eddie Brock and Hammerhead. There are a a few random villains who seem to have gotten an update by virtue of popping up in The Bar With No Name, but I certainly don't mind them. $5 is a bit steep for something like that, especially with many outright Handbook editions still selling for $4, but that was the main reason I dug this up, and so far I haven't been disappointed there.

Of course, the first half of the special is a summary of basically ASM from BND to the end of SECRET INVASION. At best, I can say it reads like a bit of a well intentioned mess. The infusion of new characters to the supporting cast is nice, and some new villains, and even some bits with the old cast like J.J. losing control of the paper and Flash going to Iraq, but frankly all of that could have been done without OMD with very minor re-writes. Considering MJ is estranged from Peter but remains aware of his secret ID, I remain convinced that OMD would have been better executed had Peter and MJ just outright divorced. It would have been more realistic, no less "final" than a death or a magical annulment, and may not have so angered a portion of the fan base. Even if it's only, say, 5% of ASM's fans (and that is a low ball sum), if you want to boldly relaunch something, why alienate even 1% deliberately? That said, the angle of Jackpot seems to have been both a tease and a wasted opportunity. The concept of MJ gaining super-powers of her own and interacting with Spider-Man, while keeping her distance from Peter, is a sound one. Alas, while fans were drug along for a year, she turns out to be some random poser. Anti-climaxes barely work in prose novels, and almost always fail in film; for comics that require an investment of over $30 a year, it never, ever is remembered well. I feel irritated having seen the potential for Jackpot so wasted, and I just read it in summary. I can't imagine how people strung along for issues of ASM and about 1-2 Jackpot mini's felt. While the Anti-Venom angle I found myself liking more than I expected (the idea of Brock being a "lethal protector" or the cancer retcon pre-dated BRAND NEW DAY, just Slott and others found a way to condense it), "Freak" is an absurdly silly villain, who would be a punch line if he were created in the 70's or even 90's. I also am amazed by how many children Kraven the Hunter had, and how he must have been some father because they all want to avenge him to the death. On the whole, though, the summary made me feel that the first year of BND was to revive the late 1970's status quo only to add modern trappings like room-mate drama, the struggles of print media and obsessed tabloids. Could Harry have been revived mysteriously without a global mind-wipe from Mephisto? Yes. I was convinced that whatever problems there were with the Parker Marriage or his continuity, that ONE MORE DAY was a drastic overcompensation, and I remain convinced of that. Marvel seems to have an editorial problem of both taking years too long to properly diagnose a problem, and then taking a course of action that either misses the point or throws the baby out with the bathwater. This has been done with mutants (M-Day), done with Dr. Strange, and done with Spider-Man. It is akin to missing a minor skin infection until it becomes gangrene, and then choosing to cure it by strapping one-self to a nuclear war-head, then detonating it. Many of the positive elements of BND could have been done without as much of a harsh bleach as OMD, just with a little more care and tweaking. Instead I think Marvel wanted a splashy quick fix in the height of "crossover" fever, and this is the result. While it is a commercial success, a healthy minority of fans under 30 don't take it seriously, and see it as appealing to fans old enough to have not read "THE DEATH OF GWEN STACY" in a reprint. DC has caused a great deal of problems sacrificing young adults for their "Centrum Silver" readership and I think this is an area where Marvel has followed suit. For anyone reading or watching Spider-Man since 1984, MJ was part of him. Demonically saying it never happened is basically telling a fan who is, say, 20-21, that what they grew up with was rubbish, and things will be best if they let it go, which is NOT the best way to entice them to then buy ASM thrice a month ("The last 20 years don't count, but THIS does, and we totally won't undo it when it becomes convenient, either! Buy buy BUY!"). Marvel really needs to stop editorially trying to kill gnats with napalm.

DC did some internal promotions to add some new blood to higher offices, and I do think after over a decade, Marvel could use a little of the same.
 
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With regards to your review of the Amazing Spider-Man: Brand New Day Yearbook, Dread, you can definitely say that not only is the series appeaingr to be evoking the 1970s (not to mention the 1980s) era of Spider-Man only with modern trappings, but it's become even more clear that the current status quo did not need One More Day at all. For instance, right around the time that yearbook came out, it was revealed that Harry never actually died at all, that the Goblin Formula put him in a temporary coma and/or healed him, and that Norman Osborn, along with Mysterio, made it look like he had died and made him convalesce over in Europe. Also, we've been hinted that Peter's secret identity being restored had nothing whatsoever to do with Mephisto at all, despite the fact it was clearly stated to be the case in the actual story; and that there's a "psychic blindspot" he has which prevent anyone from "connecting the dots" that Peter and Spidey are one and the same. Not sure if you were aware of those or other developments currently going on in the book.

And yes, Jackpot WAS not only a missed opportunity but was a downright cheat in terms of a mystery.
 
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Invincible Iron Man was kind of bland. Tony finally wakes up, but the journey to that point was not really as interesting as I thought it would be. The Ghost incapacitates everyone with ease and they stay down the entire time. Rhodey got shot last issue and literally does not move once in this entire issue. Strange gets taken down by the Ghost early on as well and just lays there, rooted to the spot he fell, even though he's conscious and doesn't seem to be in a lot of pain. Maria Hill actually does stuff in the issue, but the Ghost pretty much just ignores her. I did like Pepper's solution of (literally) calling the Ghost's bluff; that was clever.

So then Tony makes symbolic peace with his past misdeeds, wakes up, and chases the Ghost away. Only it turns out the backup of Tony's mind is old, so he's got amnesia since before Civil War, it looks like. That strikes me as a cheap way to absolve Tony of his previous actions; this whole arc, in fact, felt a bit too easy toward the end. Good build-up, but the last few issues didn't deliver. But I'm dropping the series with this issue anyway, so it doesn't really matter to me. Underwhelming, all things considered.
 
Girl Comics #1 - cute, if, since it's an anthology format, not given a whole lot of room to grow. Ann Nocenti does a good four-pager with the Punisher, and, in terms of odd character choices, one of the longest segments revolves around Venus - and not the updated Atlas Venus, this is clearly the Golden Age Venus, running a fashion magazine. It's cute and funny, with cherubic art.

Invincible Iron Man #24 - this arc started strong and ended strong, but it sagged in the middle. Too much time getting to the point, particularly the dream sequences in Tony's head, which, up until this issue, really didn't provide much in the way of interesting symbolism. Also, Ghost has to be the most incompetent hitman ever; if this arc was supposed to build him up, it didn't really work. The supporting cast interactions were good, for the most part. I really liked the Ghost/Dr. Strange fight scene. Reboot-Tony not remembering the last few years was clearly set up at the start of this arc, when the backup disk was said to have been made just prior to "Extremis"; don't know that I like that. Feels cheap. I may, like Corp, be finished with this book; it's okay, but it never excels.

Mighty Avengers #34 - the clear frontrunner for the title of "most baffling issue of the month", after two really good issues. The team manages to actually capture Loki, but then lets him go, at Thor's insistence, for that matter (despite Asgard's so-called justice system being transparently inadequate at doing anything to stop him from doing whatever the **** he wants). And then Pym offers Loki a spot on the team for some reason (I'm assuming there's more to this), which causes the group to disband at the drop of a hat; what, not even asking for an explanation? The art was nice.

Wolverine: Weapon X #11 - showing once again that Wolverine is the sole bridge-point between the X-Men and the rest of the Marvel Universe, Logan spends the issue on a just-returned-from-the-dead pub crawl with Steve Rogers (he was also, so far as I know, the only X-Man to ever mention that he was dead; whenever anybody ever tries to set him, Tony and Thor up as the Big Three of the whole universe, I just mention that). Nightcrawler is the designated driver in the Blackbird, which was quite funny (he agreed if Logan would go to church with him the next morning, and also wins a $20 bet with Cyclops). The conversation between him and Steve is great (Logan avoiding having any kind of serious discussion, and doesn't want to admit he's glad Steve is back). Meanwhile, in the leadup to the main plot of this arc, Deathlok from the future goes around killing a bunch of people who'll be important; yeah, it's a fairly straight Terminator plot, but there's quite a bit of good black comedy, particularly with the first two kills. The final reveal that we've not just been watching the same Deathlok through the whole issue, but that there's like ten of them, is well-handled. Aaron continues to demonstrate that he's the Wolverine writer for the 21st century.
 
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Quick, easy week.

Mighty Avengers #34 - Man, am I gonna miss this book. The Mighty Avengers hunt down Loki as revenge for him pretending to be the Scarlet Witch for the past year. Standing in their way is Thor who buts heads with Pym over the use of a torture device strictly for gods.

Slott does a few things I liked, the breakfast table interaction between teammates, the use of The Isle of Silence (the site of the final battle of Acts of Vengeance crossover waaaaaaaaay back in Avengers West Coast #55.) and he reminds us just how cool Infinite Avengers Mansion is when Jarvis goes around the world grocery shopping.

I love any writer that uses the Way Back Machine for their stories, Slott here and Rick Remender using the Bloodstone Saga for "FrankenCastle". And Neil Edwards on art...more like Neil Adams. :up:

Invincible Iron Man #24 - Stark Disassembled concludes with my nightmare scenario.....a complete cop-out by Fraction. A real low point in his run on the series for me personally. The hard drive Stark used to reboot his memory was Tony's mind pre-Civil War, pre-Cap assasination. When Tony had Maria Hill retrieve it for the purpose of saving him, it was the last treacherous act of manipulation from a man who has a lot to answer for and is totally being let off the hook.

Tony at the end of the issue was catching up on Marvel U. events from the past year with a shocked look on his face. So now he's off the hook for sleeping with both Maria Hill and Pepper Potts. He's off the hook for his actions during Civil War. Steve Rogers is not the type of man to hassle Tony knowing that Tony doesn't remember. Tony using Osborn's Thunderbolts to hunt down heroes like animals? OFF-THE-HOOK.

I, like many people I'm sure, were waiting for the inevitable confrontation between Steve and Tony, all throughout Cap Reborn, Stark Dissassembled, and SIEGE. I feel robbed. I guess it's not the worst thing ever to retcon Tony back from the dark side/gray area he was tapdancing on the past 5 years in this way.....he could have made a deal with Mephisto.:o

ASM #623 - Speak of the devil. The Gauntlet moves on to The Vulture now, not the classic Toomes version, the BND one. Waid's story was good, providing backstory for the new Vulture, keeping Pete in costume for the whole issue. Waid also uses Electro, the Kraven girl, and ties the story into the past Mysterio arc. The major downside is the god awful art of Paul Azaceta. They need to drop him from the rotation of Spider-artists.

PunisherMax: Butterfly (one-shot) - Good hard edged crime story by Valerie D'Orazio. I'm not gonna go into too much detail but the story was about a hitwoman and her tell all book. The Punisher was more of a background character, he only had one line, but it was a good read.

I was gonna get the X-Men Hope one-shot, but as it turns out it's a reprint of the back up stories that ran thru the Necrosha books.
 
New Ultimates #1 Why oh why did I buy this? Sigh. I found this opener issue to be confusing and just flat out uninteresting. Think I'll just stick with Millar's stuff and be happier. :(
 
New Ultimates #1 Why oh why did I buy this? Sigh. I found this opener issue to be confusing and just flat out uninteresting. Think I'll just stick with Millar's stuff and be happier. :(
You bought New Ultimates? You're bad and you should feel bad.
 
*hangs head in shame* :ninja: :(
 
Anybody read the 2nd issue of Joe The Barbarian? I haven't picked up it yet, and I liked the 1st ish. It was a little light on content, yes, but what do you expect for a buck?

I like the concept and I really hope it's gonna be good.
 
Invincible Iron Man was kind of bland. Tony finally wakes up, but the journey to that point was not really as interesting as I thought it would be. The Ghost incapacitates everyone with ease and they stay down the entire time. Rhodey got shot last issue and literally does not move once in this entire issue. Strange gets taken down by the Ghost early on as well and just lays there, rooted to the spot he fell, even though he's conscious and doesn't seem to be in a lot of pain. Maria Hill actually does stuff in the issue, but the Ghost pretty much just ignores her. I did like Pepper's solution of (literally) calling the Ghost's bluff; that was clever.

So then Tony makes symbolic peace with his past misdeeds, wakes up, and chases the Ghost away. Only it turns out the backup of Tony's mind is old, so he's got amnesia since before Civil War, it looks like. That strikes me as a cheap way to absolve Tony of his previous actions; this whole arc, in fact, felt a bit too easy toward the end. Good build-up, but the last few issues didn't deliver. But I'm dropping the series with this issue anyway, so it doesn't really matter to me. Underwhelming, all things considered.

It's like everything stupid about "Fear Demon made me do it" with none of the redeeming features.

I can't think of a single reason it wouldn't have been better to just go ahead and make him a damn Skrull.
 
Anybody read the 2nd issue of Joe The Barbarian? I haven't picked up it yet, and I liked the 1st ish. It was a little light on content, yes, but what do you expect for a buck?

I like the concept and I really hope it's gonna be good.

Yeah, I did. It's still pretty confusing, as Joe's mind is in some fantasy world made up of various characters from different stories and such; meanwhile, his body is moving in the real world of his enormous house. The second issue, though, did have a bit more content than that first issue...just don't expect to understand what you're reading. (It feels more like the kid is on some weird acid trip.)
 
It's like everything stupid about "Fear Demon made me do it" with none of the redeeming features.

I can't think of a single reason it wouldn't have been better to just go ahead and make him a damn Skrull.

And the thing is that in IIM, and the "Fear Demon", and even OMD, all stem from the same reasoning. Wanting to "wipe a slate clean" because prior story lines that were said to matter and be forever important suddenly became inconvenient, and rather than spending time on character interaction mending bridges, it is best to imagine the bridges were never broken and to erase everything. Only it isn't easier; it feels cheap, and readers always tell.

What Fraction did in IIM wasn't on the level of OMD, but I do agree it is a bit of cover to get Stark in a status quo in time for the movie. Still, just because Stark doesn't remember what he does doesn't mean it didn't happen, and other characters may not still have issues with him.

It does say a lot, though, that both Marvel and DC are willing to brag about how bold some story is, and then completely erase it and everything attached to it one, two, ten, twenty years later, then wonder why fans become cynical, bitter, and don't give anything a chance. Reap, sow.

With regards to your review of the Amazing Spider-Man: Brand New Day Yearbook, Dread, you can definitely say that not only is the series appeaingr to be evoking the 1970s (not to mention the 1980s) era of Spider-Man only with modern trappings, but it's become even more clear that the current status quo did not need One More Day at all. For instance, right around the time that yearbook came out, it was revealed that Harry never actually died at all, that the Goblin Formula put him in a temporary coma and/or healed him, and that Norman Osborn, along with Mysterio, made it look like he had died and made him convalesce over in Europe. Also, we've been hinted that Peter's secret identity being restored had nothing whatsoever to do with Mephisto at all, despite the fact it was clearly stated to be the case in the actual story; and that there's a "psychic blindspot" he has which prevent anyone from "connecting the dots" that Peter and Spidey are one and the same. Not sure if you were aware of those or other developments currently going on in the book.

And yes, Jackpot WAS not only a missed opportunity but was a downright cheat in terms of a mystery.

No, I wasn't aware of those other details. They do seem especially ludicrous.

Just give me a third season of TSSM, thanks.

Like I said above, part of the issue is Marvel's editorial board seems to wax and wane between going full steam on a story one year and then 1-2 years later having now seen they're in a corner and having to clean house. A little forethought in the planning phase would have avoided some of the hassles that came from, say, SPIDER-MAN UNMASKED.
 
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This is the first week that I'm so uninterested in what's come out that I've skipped going to the comic shop. It's wierd. I keep thinking... eh, maybe I'll go tomorrow, but then I know I probably won't. I figure, I'm only getting 3 more mediocre comics next week too so maybe I'll go then and get all 6 of the issues from the two weeks combined.
 
It's like everything stupid about "Fear Demon made me do it" with none of the redeeming features.

I can't think of a single reason it wouldn't have been better to just go ahead and make him a damn Skrull.
I wouldn't put it on the level of the "lulz fear demon!" retcon. The last page has Tony reading up on the history his backup didn't cover, so obviously he's at least going to deal with it somehow, unlike Hal "guilt is for *****es" Jordan. I posted my problem with the memory reboot pretty succinctly in the Iron Man thread, so I'll just quote that:
This is how I see it: Place yourself in Tony's shoes. You're confident to the point of arrogance. You don't know what's going to happen, but you make decisions based on the information at hand. Stamford happens and you figure the Superhuman Registration Act is passing anyway, so you jump onboard and try to steer the rest of the superhero community into doing the same. Cap disagrees so you try to reason with him and, failing that, it comes to blows in the wake of the SRA's ratification. Unfortunate, but you're in the situation and there's no easy way out. You clone Thor but the clone quickly goes rogue and murders Bill Foster in cold blood. Cap beats you but surrenders and then gets killed.

That's the sticking point for me. I can't believe that Tony, free of the knowledge of how he came to his decisions in the Civil War situation, would ever come to the same decisions knowing the chain reaction that they would cause, especially if it leads to the deaths of dear friends and culminates in Norman f***ing Osborn taking over the system those decisions put in place and perverting it to harm even more people.

The natural end result of Tony re-learning all of the events from Civil War on as an outsider looking in is a whole hell of a lot of penitence. No human being with strong enough morals to become a superhero in the first place could look at that mess he made and feel like he still did the right thing without remembering how events unfolded from inside. Plus, now that he knows how his decisions can be so disastrous, he's a lot likelier to second-guess himself going forward. Given that Tony's arrogance is a huge part of his character, it seems like eroding it with regret over how his actions created such terrible consequences would diminish an essential part of Tony's character.

I could be wrong, of course, but I have a gut feeling that the "reassembled" Tony, with his tail firmly between his legs, is going to differ pretty drastically from the lovable *****ebag we all knew and loved.
 
This is the first week that I'm so uninterested in what's come out that I've skipped going to the comic shop. It's wierd. I keep thinking... eh, maybe I'll go tomorrow, but then I know I probably won't. I figure, I'm only getting 3 more mediocre comics next week too so maybe I'll go then and get all 6 of the issues from the two weeks combined.
I was wondering why you hadn't been the one to start this thread after you teased me about starting the last one. :p
 
Yeah, I did. It's still pretty confusing, as Joe's mind is in some fantasy world made up of various characters from different stories and such; meanwhile, his body is moving in the real world of his enormous house. The second issue, though, did have a bit more content than that first issue...just don't expect to understand what you're reading. (It feels more like the kid is on some weird acid trip.)

That's Morrison for you. It usually helps to be high when you read his stuff anyway. :awesome:
 
I wouldn't put it on the level of the "lulz fear demon!" retcon. The last page has Tony reading up on the history his backup didn't cover, so obviously he's at least going to deal with it somehow, unlike Hal "guilt is for *****es" Jordan. I posted my problem with the memory reboot pretty succinctly in the Iron Man thread, so I'll just quote that:

TheCorpulent1 said:
This is how I see it: Place yourself in Tony's shoes. You're confident to the point of arrogance. You don't know what's going to happen, but you make decisions based on the information at hand. Stamford happens and you figure the Superhuman Registration Act is passing anyway, so you jump onboard and try to steer the rest of the superhero community into doing the same. Cap disagrees so you try to reason with him and, failing that, it comes to blows in the wake of the SRA's ratification. Unfortunate, but you're in the situation and there's no easy way out. You clone Thor but the clone quickly goes rogue and murders Bill Foster in cold blood. Cap beats you but surrenders and then gets killed.

That's the sticking point for me. I can't believe that Tony, free of the knowledge of how he came to his decisions in the Civil War situation, would ever come to the same decisions knowing the chain reaction that they would cause, especially if it leads to the deaths of dear friends and culminates in Norman f***ing Osborn taking over the system those decisions put in place and perverting it to harm even more people.

The natural end result of Tony re-learning all of the events from Civil War on as an outsider looking in is a whole hell of a lot of penitence. No human being with strong enough morals to become a superhero in the first place could look at that mess he made and feel like he still did the right thing without remembering how events unfolded from inside. Plus, now that he knows how his decisions can be so disastrous, he's a lot likelier to second-guess himself going forward. Given that Tony's arrogance is a huge part of his character, it seems like eroding it with regret over how his actions created such terrible consequences would diminish an essential part of Tony's character.

I could be wrong, of course, but I have a gut feeling that the "reassembled" Tony, with his tail firmly between his legs, is going to differ pretty drastically from the lovable *****ebag we all knew and loved.

How's he supposed to be different? He's literally exactly the same person, except with any chance removed of ever actually acknowledging the **** he inflicted on other people and how badly he ****ed up.

The best that can possibly happen is acknowledging in the abstract that someone he doesn't remember at all did a bunch of awfully awful things and saying "gosh those things were awful, good thing I WOULD NEVER do awful things like THAT" and being perfectly free to carry on being a colossal *****ebag in ways that lead to some entirely different catastrophic ****up.

How is he supposed to keep from making the same decisions, when like you said, he has no idea what those decisions were or what led him to them? Why would he be humbled by a bunch of things that as far as he's concerned he didn't do and never happened? Because he reads some after-the-fact newspaper headlines?

This is why I'm saying it's even stupider than the fear demon retcon, because at least in that case it absolved Hal of all guilt by at least coming up with some actual different thing to be guilty. Instead Tony Stark's fear demon is... Tony Stark. He gets freed of carrying any kind of real guilt or responsibility for all the **** he caused, but without getting rid of any of what caused him to do all of it in the first place.
 
The knowledge that his logical decisions (because who wouldn't assume they acted logically in any given situation?) resulted in such catastrophic consequences would make him second-guess himself. How could he not? He knows that he's the same person that made those decisions, even if he doesn't necessarily take responsibility for them. That's a dramatic shift in the character of a man who's normally arrogant enough to believe he always knows what's best for everyone. Now he'll be thinking, "This seems right, but what if I'm having the same kind of thought process that led to Cap getting killed and Osborn taking over?"

Anyway, we'll just have to wait and see how Fraction actually plays it out.
 
Instead of Stark: Disassembled they should have called it Fraction: Cop-Out
 
Wolverine: Weapon X #11 - was cool. CaptainCanada said it better, but I agree Jason Aaron has a great handle on Wolverine. Of all the Wolverine appearances every month, he is at his best here. I wasn't a fan of the Insane in the Brain arc, but so far this Deathlok/Terminator tale is off to a great start.

Joe the Barbarian #2 - is more interesting than the first issue. Good luck trying to summarize a Morrison story though. Apparently, Joe is fading in and out of consciousness due to his Diabetes. When he does black out, he ends up in a land where his toys/action figures are life size and battling an unseen for foe their lives. And Joe is some kinda Chosen One, or something. Cool so far, and I'll probably stick around and finish out the arc.
 
Bought

Mighty Avengers #34
Ultimate Comics Avengers #5
Green Hornet #1
The Great Ten #5
Detective Comics #862
Chew #9
God Complex #4
Milestone Forever #2
Thor #607
Fantastic Four #576
JSA #36
Conan the Cimmerian #19
Avengers: The Initiative #33
The Boys #40
Iron Man #24
First Wave #1
X-Men: Legacy #233
Ultimate Enemy #2
Scalped #35
Nation X #3

Thought

Milestone Forever - The problems I had with the art for issue #1 are resolved here, with interiors by Denys Cowan, ChrisCross and JP Leon. Sadly, this will probably be the last time these characters get any shine for the forseeable future (minus Static in the lackluster Teen Titans).

First Wave - Coulda swore this was an on-going at one point. Anywho, decent start...nothing spectacular.

Iron Man - Have to agree with those who've said this arc was too long. It was cool to see Doc Strange doing a little sorcerer-fu. I guess most writers forget he's a martial artist.

The Great Ten - I guess I'm one of the few comic fans who likes new characters (they've been around for a few years now, but still are relatively "new"), so this is right up my alley in theory. Story's okay, McDaniel's art is...adequate.

Detective Comics - Kinda weird seeing Dick taken out relatively easily by some average joe.

Chew - :up::up: as usual. That ending was...surprising, to say the least :hehe:
 
I liked the last issue of The Invincible Iron Man, but I was very bored by this story arc and didn't read most of it. Still, while the ending was all about renewing the status quo, it was done well. I want to see where Fraction goes with Resilient. Post-Extremis Tony has potential.

I'm not sure why anyone was expecting an apology, after that issue where he flat-out said his perspective wouldn't allow it. Ever since Civil War, Tony has been all "futurism rawks, go suck it in another dimension if you don't like it." His stint as Director of S.H.I.E.L.D. was neat, but the literal reboot was a solid way of saying goodbye to the Iron Hitler persona most writers besides the Knaufs portrayed him with.
 
No, I wasn't aware of those other details. They do seem especially ludicrous.

Just give me a third season of TSSM, thanks.

No kidding. Especially since recent details in Amazing Spider-Man involve Spider-Man and the Black Cat becoming "friends with benefits" and, since she no longer knows Spidey is Peter, she can't look at his face or Spidey has to keep his mask on while they do it; Harry Osborn, having been disowned by Norman Osborn after the "American Son" story and having no where to live, first ends up living at Forest Hills and then--when Aunt May, "corrupted" by Mr. Negative's powers, kicks him out--ends up moving in to Mary Jane's apartment, thus obviously hinting at a possible hook-up between them; Aunt May marrying J. Jonah Jameson's estranged father, who also happens to be a wealthy literary novelist; Lily Hollister a.k.a. Menace, is now pregnant with Norman Osborn's child; and, of course, the upcoming storyline within the "Gauntlet"--"Peter Parker: Unemployed."

Like I said above, part of the issue is Marvel's editorial board seems to wax and wane between going full steam on a story one year and then 1-2 years later having now seen they're in a corner and having to clean house. A little forethought in the planning phase would have avoided some of the hassles that came from, say, SPIDER-MAN UNMASKED.

Well a funny thing about that. Here's what Joe Quesada said in an interview he gave to CBR a couple of years back regarding the "behind the scenes" in making One More Day:

In the end, knowing what that story was going to be is what allowed us to go ahead with the unmasking of Spider-Man in "Civil War" -- we had our "way out" ahead of time, it was a great place to be.

http://www.comicbookresources.com/?page=article&id=12238
 
I don't know why people seem bent about MJ & Harry hooking up.... I called that out when BND began...

:yay:
 

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