BOUGHT/THOUGHT for Wednesday, February 28th

[PhotoJones]

It still was, and like I said, the issue was ok, the only scene that sucked was the Sally Floyd/Cap scene.

i didn't have a problem with it.

actually that's not true. i had one minor gripe, and it's not jenkin's fault. there's a panel during that scene and bachs drew cap sitting like an ashamed little boy in his chair. that kind of irked me.

 

[Darthphere]

i didn't have a problem with it.

actually that's not true. i had one minor gripe, and it's not jenkin's fault. there's a panel during that scene and bachs drew cap sitting like an ashamed little boy in his chair. that kind of irked me.

Well if Jenkins' script described him that way, it would be his fault. But yeah, the whole scene seemed unnecessary and just seemed like kicking a man when he's down.

 

[PhotoJones]

Well if Jenkins' script described him that way, it would be his fault. But yeah, the whole scene seemed unnecessary and just seemed like kicking a man when he's down.

well, cap screwed up. that's the price you gotta pay sometimes.

 

[Tropico]

Civil War: Fronlines #11- B!t¢h Pick of the Week* Ok, so I'm supposed to go on an irrational rant as promised but the issue had more than what I had seen in the posts. Even so, I can't put into words how much I think it sucked and how, in my view, the characters were not themselves.

Objectively, this issue gives a great closing to the CW fiasco. It makes perfect sense to any people who have agreed with Marvel's current portrayals of the "actors" involved and ties up things nicely by giving the "normal people" a voice in these 2 reporters, especially Sally. The art, I felt, was sub-par compared to other issues but at least it didn't make your eyes bleed. In retrospect this issue should be a delight to people who prefer their characters with a large array of foibles and feet made of very soft clay; it brings what Marvel considers "reality" once more crashing into their universe and grounds these heroes in a more current light, especially after Sally's speech to Cap. Welcome to the New Marvel (I wouldn't be surprised if they added the 'New' to the company logo, also), get ready for a bumpy yet thrilling ready according to Joe and staff.

I can't muster enough anger or outrage like some of the rest of you have. How could I? I have nothing to stand on. Marvel has taken it all away because years of continuity don't matter when considering how people will act. THIS is how Marvel has chosen to portray these characters. How can I argue that I know Cap would have "gone to the table" as soon as the first death happened when the writer makes it canon that he didn't? How can I argue that despite all the things Tony has done he wouldn't have stooped so low as to do this when CW:F #11 makes him responsible for it? I can't, it's already written. These are the characters as Marvel has chosen to make them. All I can do is express my discontent and.........Look, I scoff at people that say that the Ultimate line will someday replace the regular Marvel. Today, I found that belief somewhat shaken. I realized that with one single event Marvel had partially Ultimized the 616 universe, I'll explain when I discuss a couple of what I found to be the most relevant points of the issue.....

Cap's "Interview"- Aside from the whole "you're not current" issue, what I think Sally was trying to say is "when was the last time you had a normal day" which is something ridiculous to ask of a person who isn't what you could call "normal". I don't think Cap didn't know what she was talking about, he said he didn't understand the relevance of Sally's first question and then she went on to grill him. He chose not to answer. Why? I don't know, it would be ignorant of me to say that it was because he didn't know what she was talking about since his asking what the relevance was tells me that he did know, at least the myspace thing. And this is one of the instances where I perceive it as an ultimization...Cap as a man out of touch with the present. This hasn't been true for years and especially not in Cap's own title. This is NOT Ultimate Cap and to treat him as such is an incredibly convenient way to further a story that butchers a character. With one single stroke they have made every ignorant fanboy's view of Cap as a boring fuddy duddy into reality without taking into consideration that they have regressed the character by decades in the eyes of people that only know the character superficially. And they have showered the true Cap fans in this diarrhea they call writing by portraying him this way. In a way I'm glad Marvel did away with thought balloons so I can imagine whatever I want that Cap was thinking. If Sally wasn't made out to be the avatar of mediocrity I would have been surprised that a "woman of letters" didn't know the difference between ideals and reality. But, considering how messed up she is and how she's comfortable with, NAY! PREFERS, the mediocre world she lives in, it doesn't surprise me the least.If someone doesn't get it, it isn't Cap.

Tony's interview- Another character that got a semi ultimization. The whole greedy businessman angle got overdone here. What irks me the most about this interview is that Stark never answers. We don't know if these accusations are on the mark or if only the first part hits the nail on the head and the rest deviates all to hell. We don't know for certain if Stark masterminded this or if it started right and things spun out of control. Was Stark's anger and frustration because of being found out or at how his goodhearted attempts at fixing things were taken out of context and made into the coldly logical machinations of a "futurist"? I don't know; I know most people take it as face value that what the reporters said was true. And it's funny how in one fell swoop Marvel has, at least in my eyes, declared who is now the ideal hero of our age: Tony Stark. The reporters applaud him for what he did and don't run the story out of respect for what he did. Once upon a time, it would have been Cap that would have gotten respect and special consideration. No more.

If I were to judge Marvel solely on this comic, I would be extremely skeptical of their future writings. I would even consider dropping them. But, since this isn't a comprehensive view of all of their future comics (I hope) I just see it as bad issue, a VERY bad issue. If I'm not mistaken, I haven't used the word heroes on this "review"; it's intentional, because I didn't see any of them in this issue. I only saw petty people, some with powers and some with none. And, this is NOT what I read comics for.

 

[PhotoJones]

I only saw petty people, some with powers and some with none. And, this is NOT what I read comics for.

so stop reading.

 

[Dread]

Civil War: Fronlines #11- B!t¢h Pick of the Week* Ok, so I'm supposed to go on an irrational rant as promised but the issue had more than what I had seen in the posts. Even so, I can't put into words how much I think it sucked and how, in my view, the characters were not themselves.

Objectively, this issue gives a great closing to the CW fiasco. It makes perfect sense to any people who have agreed with Marvel's current portrayals of the "actors" involved and ties up things nicely by giving the "normal people" a voice in these 2 reporters, especially Sally. The art, I felt, was sub-par compared to other issues but at least it didn't make your eyes bleed. In retrospect this issue should be a delight to people who prefer their characters with a large array of foibles and feet made of very soft clay; it brings what Marvel considers "reality" once more crashing into their universe and grounds these heroes in a more current light, especially after Sally's speech to Cap. Welcome to the New Marvel (I wouldn't be surprised if they added the 'New' to the company logo, also), get ready for a bumpy yet thrilling ready according to Joe and staff.

I can't muster enough anger or outrage like some of the rest of you have. How could I? I have nothing to stand on. Marvel has taken it all away because years of continuity don't matter when considering how people will act. THIS is how Marvel has chosen to portray these characters. How can I argue that I know Cap would have "gone to the table" as soon as the first death happened when the writer makes it canon that he didn't? How can I argue that despite all the things Tony has done he wouldn't have stooped so low as to do this when CW:F #11 makes him responsible for it? I can't, it's already written. These are the characters as Marvel has chosen to make them. All I can do is express my discontent and.........Look, I scoff at people that say that the Ultimate line will someday replace the regular Marvel. Today, I found that belief somewhat shaken. I realized that with one single event Marvel had partially Ultimized the 616 universe, I'll explain when I discuss a couple of what I found to be the most relevant points of the issue.....

Cap's "Interview"- Aside from the whole "you're not current" issue, what I think Sally was trying to say is "when was the last time you had a normal day" which is something ridiculous to ask of a person who isn't what you could call "normal". I don't think Cap didn't know what she was talking about, he said he didn't understand the relevance of Sally's first question and then she went on to grill him. He chose not to answer. Why? I don't know, it would be ignorant of me to say that it was because he didn't know what she was talking about since his asking what the relevance was tells me that he did know, at least the myspace thing. And this is one of the instances where I perceive it as an ultimization...Cap as a man out of touch with the present. This hasn't been true for years and especially not in Cap's own title. This is NOT Ultimate Cap and to treat him as such is an incredibly convenient way to further a story that butchers a character. With one single stroke they have made every ignorant fanboy's view of Cap as a boring fuddy duddy into reality without taking into consideration that they have regressed the character by decades in the eyes of people that only know the character superficially. And they have showered the true Cap fans in this diarrhea they call writing by portraying him this way. In a way I'm glad Marvel did away with thought balloons so I can imagine whatever I want that Cap was thinking. If Sally wasn't made out to be the avatar of mediocrity I would have been surprised that a "woman of letters" didn't know the difference between ideals and reality. But, considering how messed up she is and how she's comfortable with, NAY! PREFERS, the mediocre world she lives in, it doesn't surprise me the least.If someone doesn't get it, it isn't Cap.

Tony's interview- Another character that got a semi ultimization. The whole greedy businessman angle got overdone here. What irks me the most about this interview is that Stark never answers. We don't know if these accusations are on the mark or if only the first part hits the nail on the head and the rest deviates all to hell. We don't know for certain if Stark masterminded this or if it started right and things spun out of control. Was Stark's anger and frustration because of being found out or at how his goodhearted attempts at fixing things were taken out of context and made into the coldly logical machinations of a "futurist"? I don't know; I know most people take it as face value that what the reporters said was true. And it's funny how in one fell swoop Marvel has, at least in my eyes, declared who is now the ideal hero of our age: Tony Stark. The reporters applaud him for what he did and don't run the story out of respect for what he did. Once upon a time, it would have been Cap that would have gotten respect and special consideration. No more.

If I were to judge Marvel solely on this comic, I would be extremely skeptical of their future writings. I would even consider dropping them. But, since this isn't a comprehensive view of all of their future comics (I hope) I just see it as bad issue, a VERY bad issue. If I'm not mistaken, I haven't used the word heroes on this "review"; it's intentional, because I didn't see any of them in this issue. I only saw petty people, some with powers and some with none. And, this is NOT what I read comics for.

Another good review that I agree with in many ways. I still don't think Ultimate will replace 616. As you said, more elements of it will simply "merge" or be infused into 616, and be damned if it steamrolls decades of continuity.

 

[BrianWilly]

Am I the only person here who thought that Sally and Ben's applause at the end there was sarcastic instead of genuine? I mean...it just couldn't have been genuine, could it? "You're a manipulative murderer, Tony Stark, and have had us all played like pawns on a board. Christ, how we love you! How proud you must be of yourself!" And then they start literally clapping at him? That can't...I mean...seriously? That was for real?

 

[Tropico]

so stop reading.

You're doing a great Supermarvelman impersonation today, Photojones2. Have you been by the Punisher War Journal thread? There's a pic there I would very much like you to see.

 

[PhotoJones]

You're doing a great Supermarvelman impersonation today, Photojones2. Have you been by the Punisher War Journal thread? There's a pic there I would very much like you to see.

well, if you're not enjoying where marvel is taking it's characters, the obvious thing to do would be to stop reading. that way, you're saving yourself both time and money.


oh, but then what would you ***** about?

 

[Tropico]

well, if you're not enjoying where marvel is taking it's characters, the obvious thing to do would be to stop reading. that way, you're saving yourself both time and money.


oh, but then what would you ***** about?

You should really read the whole review. You'd realize that you're taking the sentence you "highlighted" out of context. I was talking about CW:F #11 specifically, not Marvel comics as whole. But then, you wouldn't have anything to ***** about people that ***** about stuff you liked.

 

[GNR]

can anyone help me out and let me know what the Canadian cover price for Justice #10 was?

Thanks.

 

[PhotoJones]

You should really read the whole review. You'd realize that you're taking the sentence you "highlighted" out of context. I was talking about CW:F #11 specifically, not Marvel comics as whole. But then, you wouldn't have anything to ***** about people that ***** about stuff you liked.

i did read your whole review. and i don't give two ****s if you don't like something that i do, or vice versa.

i do however read your review and reviews like it, and it comes off as martyrdom. you want to be a martyr. it's like dread (and i love reading dread's posts) and his usm compulsion. it's like some of you continually buy crap just so you can ***** about it. why?

why do i log onto here every wednesday and see the same people *****ing about the same **** week after week? are you ******ed? seriously.

i bought white tiger #1. i hated it, and i dropped it. same with the first wolverine civil war tie-in (although that was due to ramos' art). i gave "the other" a shot. it took me 2 issues to drop it.

my point is, i used to be confused about this. i used to wonder, "why are some of these people so logic-deficient, so stupid, that they continually pluck down cash to read something they don't like??" i thought you must be idiots; all of you that do this. but then it occured to me that you're all just martyrs for "the cause". whatever the cause is...

i really think it brings you some type of joy to complain about marvel like it's done you some kind of physical wrong, like it's forced you to eat vomit. is it some sort of superiority complex? does it make you feel special to buy something, trash it, and then explain how everyone involved is an idiot, and you're not? is that why you buy trash?

 

[GNR]

Not to knock any other posters,but it's amazing how every week,the Bought/Thought thread turns into page after page of arguments instead of actual review.It's been really bad lately.

Come one guys,this isn't Newsarama,we should be better than that.

 

[PhotoJones]

Not to knock any other posters,but it's amazing how every week,the Bought/Thought thread turns into page after page of arguments instead of actual review.It's been really bad lately.

Come one guys,this isn't Newsarama,we should be better than that.

you're right.

but if provoked, i'm obviously going to respond.

and if i'm not mistaken, the canadian cover price for justice was $5.50

 

[Xofenroht]

Am I the only person here who thought that Sally and Ben's applause at the end there was sarcastic instead of genuine? I mean...it just couldn't have been genuine, could it? "You're a manipulative murderer, Tony Stark, and have had us all played like pawns on a board. Christ, how we love you! How proud you must be of yourself!" And then they start literally clapping at him? That can't...I mean...seriously? That was for real?

I thought the same thing. It would explain his reaction. I've never met a person who'd throw you out of their office just for congratulating their hard and selfless work. Basically, they told him he did it all for the money and if not the money, the prestige. In short, Sally and Ben said: "Tony, even when you're sober you're still a SELFISH PRICK!"

 

[PhotoJones]

I thought the same thing. It would explain his reaction. I've never met a person who'd throw you out of their office just for congratulating their hard and selfless work. Basically, they told him he did it all for the money and if not the money, the prestige. In short, Sally and Ben said: "Tony, even when you're sober you're still a SELFISH PRICK!"

i didn't see it like that at all. i mean, if that was their intention, why would they have assured tony the story would never be published?

 

[Eros]

Civil War: Fronlines #11- B!t¢h Pick of the Week* Ok, so I'm supposed to go on an irrational rant as promised but the issue had more than what I had seen in the posts. Even so, I can't put into words how much I think it sucked and how, in my view, the characters were not themselves.

Objectively, this issue gives a great closing to the CW fiasco. It makes perfect sense to any people who have agreed with Marvel's current portrayals of the "actors" involved and ties up things nicely by giving the "normal people" a voice in these 2 reporters, especially Sally. The art, I felt, was sub-par compared to other issues but at least it didn't make your eyes bleed. In retrospect this issue should be a delight to people who prefer their characters with a large array of foibles and feet made of very soft clay; it brings what Marvel considers "reality" once more crashing into their universe and grounds these heroes in a more current light, especially after Sally's speech to Cap. Welcome to the New Marvel (I wouldn't be surprised if they added the 'New' to the company logo, also), get ready for a bumpy yet thrilling ready according to Joe and staff.

I can't muster enough anger or outrage like some of the rest of you have. How could I? I have nothing to stand on. Marvel has taken it all away because years of continuity don't matter when considering how people will act. THIS is how Marvel has chosen to portray these characters. How can I argue that I know Cap would have "gone to the table" as soon as the first death happened when the writer makes it canon that he didn't? How can I argue that despite all the things Tony has done he wouldn't have stooped so low as to do this when CW:F #11 makes him responsible for it? I can't, it's already written. These are the characters as Marvel has chosen to make them. All I can do is express my discontent and.........Look, I scoff at people that say that the Ultimate line will someday replace the regular Marvel. Today, I found that belief somewhat shaken. I realized that with one single event Marvel had partially Ultimized the 616 universe, I'll explain when I discuss a couple of what I found to be the most relevant points of the issue.....

Cap's "Interview"- Aside from the whole "you're not current" issue, what I think Sally was trying to say is "when was the last time you had a normal day" which is something ridiculous to ask of a person who isn't what you could call "normal". I don't think Cap didn't know what she was talking about, he said he didn't understand the relevance of Sally's first question and then she went on to grill him. He chose not to answer. Why? I don't know, it would be ignorant of me to say that it was because he didn't know what she was talking about since his asking what the relevance was tells me that he did know, at least the myspace thing. And this is one of the instances where I perceive it as an ultimization...Cap as a man out of touch with the present. This hasn't been true for years and especially not in Cap's own title. This is NOT Ultimate Cap and to treat him as such is an incredibly convenient way to further a story that butchers a character. With one single stroke they have made every ignorant fanboy's view of Cap as a boring fuddy duddy into reality without taking into consideration that they have regressed the character by decades in the eyes of people that only know the character superficially. And they have showered the true Cap fans in this diarrhea they call writing by portraying him this way. In a way I'm glad Marvel did away with thought balloons so I can imagine whatever I want that Cap was thinking. If Sally wasn't made out to be the avatar of mediocrity I would have been surprised that a "woman of letters" didn't know the difference between ideals and reality. But, considering how messed up she is and how she's comfortable with, NAY! PREFERS, the mediocre world she lives in, it doesn't surprise me the least.If someone doesn't get it, it isn't Cap.

Tony's interview- Another character that got a semi ultimization. The whole greedy businessman angle got overdone here. What irks me the most about this interview is that Stark never answers. We don't know if these accusations are on the mark or if only the first part hits the nail on the head and the rest deviates all to hell. We don't know for certain if Stark masterminded this or if it started right and things spun out of control. Was Stark's anger and frustration because of being found out or at how his goodhearted attempts at fixing things were taken out of context and made into the coldly logical machinations of a "futurist"? I don't know; I know most people take it as face value that what the reporters said was true. And it's funny how in one fell swoop Marvel has, at least in my eyes, declared who is now the ideal hero of our age: Tony Stark. The reporters applaud him for what he did and don't run the story out of respect for what he did. Once upon a time, it would have been Cap that would have gotten respect and special consideration. No more.

If I were to judge Marvel solely on this comic, I would be extremely skeptical of their future writings. I would even consider dropping them. But, since this isn't a comprehensive view of all of their future comics (I hope) I just see it as bad issue, a VERY bad issue. If I'm not mistaken, I haven't used the word heroes on this "review"; it's intentional, because I didn't see any of them in this issue. I only saw petty people, some with powers and some with none. And, this is NOT what I read comics for.

Good stuff man, I agree.

 

[Tropico]

i did read your whole review. and i don't give two ****s if you don't like something that i do, or vice versa.

i do however read your review and reviews like it, and it comes off as martyrdom. you want to be a martyr. it's like dread (and i love reading dread's posts) and his usm compulsion. it's like some of you continually buy crap just so you can ***** about it. why?

why do i log onto here every wednesday and see the same people *****ing about the same **** week after week? are you ******ed? seriously.

i bought white tiger #1. i hated it, and i dropped it. same with the first wolverine civil war tie-in (although that was due to ramos' art). i gave "the other" a shot. it took me 2 issues to drop it.

my point is, i used to be confused about this. i used to wonder, "why are some of these people so logic-deficient, so stupid, that they continually pluck down cash to read something they don't like??" i thought you must be idiots; all of you that do this. but then it occured to me that you're all just martyrs for "the cause". whatever the cause is...

i really think it brings you some type of joy to complain about marvel like it's done you some kind of physical wrong, like it's forced you to eat vomit. is it some sort of superiority complex? does it make you feel special to buy something, trash it, and then explain how everyone involved is an idiot, and you're not? is that why you buy trash?

All of this name calling and ASSumptions just to say: "If you don't like it shut up and don't buy it"? Heh. Cool.

I don't make a habit out of buying crap, sometimes it happens or it's just a final issue or something like that. Most of the time I do what I did with the most recent Phoenix mini, I dropped it midway through. If it's a hassle for you to log in and see the negative reviews and complaints people have, then I would give you parallel advice to what you gave me: don't read it. It saves you aggravation and b!t¢hing about the b!t¢hing, which some people would argue is worse than what you're b!t¢hing about.

 

[TheCorpulent1]

Eternals #7: Pretty good. Not Gaiman's best, obviously, but not as bad as I thought it was going to be when I realized that the major conceit of the story was that Sprite ****ed up the entire universe because he was bored of looking like he's twelve. Which is ******ed in itself, since the Eternals all have total control over their molecules, which means he could make himself look however old he damn well pleased. I get that there was more going on, that he felt eternally twelve as well because of how the other Eternals treated him, but seriously, this whole mini-series was basically predicated on an adolescent tantrum. The mini was not unlike Infinite Crisis in that respect, come to think of it.

But, also like Infinite Crisis, there was still a lot to enjoy once I got past the stupid central plot point. I loved the Eternals' journey towards recovering their identities, especially Makkari's and Sersi's. I loved how each of the Eternals brought a different piece to the puzzle of their missing memories--Ikaris' will being too strong to totally forget, Druig's ruthlessness and cunning surviving and transforming into political machinations as Vorozheika's head of state, Thena's warrior ferocity manifesting again when her mortal child was threatened, etc. I loved how Gaiman portrayed the Eternals as very enigmatic, even to each other, once they had regained their memories. I'm not sure I understand this whole Makkari-as-Eternal-messiah thing, though; I may have to reread the series all at once to get that.

With all of that in mind, this issue wraps everything up nicely. The Dreaming Celestial's hanging out in San Francisco now, adding a nice bit of alienness to enrich the Marvel USA's landscape with. (I get wanting to mirror the real world and all, but stuff like a giant cosmic being standing in a public park are kind of what I read comics for in the first place--DC's got that stuff down pat and I'm glad that Marvel finally seems to be letting itself follow suit a bit.) The conflict with the Deviants comes to a close for the time being, with Makkari the enigmatic-even-for-an-Eternal demonstrating his newfound weirdness as the--avatar? mental companion? I don't know--of a Celestial. Zuras deals with Sprite in what I thought was a bit of a cruel way, until Zuras' dialog reminded me of what Sprite was and the enormity of his crime--kudos to Gaiman for taking what might have appeared as wanton brutality and recasting it as a just, mournful execution with just a few well-placed words. The Eternals now have a greater connection to humanity, thanks to their promise to Iron Man and Makkari and Sersi's newfound empathy, and they have a long-term goal that can be touched upon in subsequent possible series in Makkari and Ikaris' search for their missing brethren.

That leads in nicely to my few problems with the series: 1) Sersi's persistent amnesia. Sersi embraced her Eternal nature as much as anyone back in the day, and she really exuded a sense that she enjoyed who she was and what she could do. What's the deal now? Is she honestly just not remembering? That seems unlikely given that the others all recovered their memories easily enough when confronted with proof of the truth. If she was faking her amnesia, why would she do it? I realize that all of the Eternals changed a bit thanks to their humanity (with the possible exception of Ikaris), but what changes made her find her Eternal heritage so repugnant--or, conversely, her humanity so endearing--that she would actually deny who and what she is? I felt like I was left with far more questions than answers regarding Sersi, and that tells me that Gaiman didn't do his job as a storyteller. She's as much a part of the story as anything else, and the fact that I'm left scratching my head about her makes her part of the story feel incomplete.

2) Why does every idea that involves finding long-forgotten characters a place in the current Marvel universe wind up translating into "we're gonna stick 'em in human bodies"? Seriously, I remember Oeming saying the same thing for Stormbreaker--that he'd be setting Bill up to integrate into the Marvel tapestry or some such--and what did we get? Bill in a human body. It pains me to think that this is really the sum of what such creative minds can come up with to make these characters relevant. Whatever happened to good old-fashioned fantasy? Maybe the Eternals never had human forms before because they shouldn't have human forms. I mentioned their enigmatic presentation earlier--that's what the Eternals ought to be about as far as I'm concerned. They've lived since the dawn of time; shouldn't they be so beyond us that we have trouble relating to them? That's the fun of it--it's like we're getting a peek at the world gods inhabit. Now, it seems, gods have to inhabit our world to get anywhere.

Anyway, enough *****ing. I'll end on a positive: the art. As always, John Romita, Jr.'s art hits all the right notes throughout--grim yet poignant during the Zuras/Sprite scene, tight and personal during the Tony/Sersi scene, expansive and dynamic during Druig, Ikaris, and Atlas' gratuitous displays of power, and kinetic during Makkari's uses of his powers. The colorist was effective as well, blurring Makkari's motion to make him look all the more fleeting. I liked the distinction between the warmer tones used in the more personal Sprite/Zuras scene and the cold, implacable harshness of the standoff set in the Antarctic. Even better, however, was how cold the scene between Sersi and Tony felt. The bluish cityscape behind them and especially the fact that their talking heads are always segregated in their own panels were really effective at showing that there's some kind of divide--these characters will not get along. Hell, they don't even appear face-to-face in the same panel without some kind of obfuscation beyond their initial greeting. Really cool storytelling effect, I thought.

So, I went into the Eternals mini not knowing what to expect, and I came out mostly satisfied. Gaiman did a good job of mixing in some current plot threads from the larger Marvel universe, making the book feel very enmeshed in the Marvel world. Unfortunately, the whole affair seemed a bit pedestrian for the Eternals, from their humanizing to Sprite's motivations to the resolution of the conflict with the Deviants. Still a pretty good read, though.

 

[Darthphere]

Am I the only person here who thought that Sally and Ben's applause at the end there was sarcastic instead of genuine? I mean...it just couldn't have been genuine, could it? "You're a manipulative murderer, Tony Stark, and have had us all played like pawns on a board. Christ, how we love you! How proud you must be of yourself!" And then they start literally clapping at him? That can't...I mean...seriously? That was for real?

Oh yeah, thats the way I took it too.

 

[TheCorpulent1]

Does it really matter? The fact that they're not printing their story is equivalent to literally clapping, patting Tony on the back, and throwing him a Corruption Day parade.

 

[Darthphere]

Does it really matter? The fact that they're not printing their story is equivalent to literally clapping, patting Tony on the back, and throwing him a Corruption Day parade.

True, I still didn't see why they wouldn't print the story.

 

[TheCorpulent1]

Out of respect for Tony's wholesale corruption. Duh.

 

[Tropico]

52 Week #43: I have to agree with the others that this a pretty quiet week. The development with Buddy was...interesting but a little vague. I guess his powers got expanded, at least in range. So many Sun Eaters..... I always led to believe that when a Sun Eater was around it was REALLY bad news; it was a cool scene anyway. I also liked how the Marvels had different viewpoints on what had happened with Osiris. I've been reading 'Mystery in Space' so Lady Styx's revival was no surprise. I could have done without the Hannibal Lecter scene at the end.

Dr. Strange: The Oath- See, this is an ending to a mini that I DID like. THIS is what I buy comics for. Consistent writing throughout, on time and the art didn't suffer at any point throughout. When Strange shackled Nicodemus up it was very reminiscent of how Mordo had put a metal gag on Strange when they were apprentices, kudos on the nostalgia. It was interesting to see that Nicodemus wasn't bluffing about being the Ancient One's apprentice, I like how Marvel has been slowly expanding "legacies" to other characters. The forced 'no magic' fight was also very cool, it was gratifying to see that they remembered that the Doc also knows how to fight. And the way that his hands looked? Gnarly!, in both senses of the word. It wouldn't bother me if we found out that he usually has a minor glamour spell to make them look normal (since we've seen him sans gloves before and no scarring was evident) and the 'no magic' field was responsible for this 'new' development. The outcome in regards to the elixir was the most predictable part, but it's one of those comic book conventionalities that you expect. Just like how most scientifically advanced heroes haven't made the Marvel U an Utopia by now. I didn't expect Strange to end up with the Nurse, though. Sure, there were some sparks but I thought they'd have some motives not to get involved immediately. Like Cleo. This'll be a great TPB to anyone who hasn't read the mini yet.

Annihilation: Heralds- Although I loved Annihilation and the minis before it I cant' say that I was ever a Silver Surfer fan. Even so, I liked this comic; mostly for the Stardust part. The few times I have seen Terrax has always been as a villain in FF and New Warriors. They manage to make him somewhat sympathetic after his plight with Annihilus but bad guys that prefer to continue their "misguided ways" always leave a bad taste in my mouth; it's one of the reasons why the Super Skrull mini didn't appeal all that much to me. It's cool that he gets a badass moment but it doesn't mean much to me since I still see him as a murderer continuing to do what he has always done. I'm glad he left Paibok and the kid alive, though.

I can't say why I like Stardust's story more. Maybe it's because they give the character some depth even if it's at the cost of sacrificing the rest of his race (making him no better than Terrax). Maybe it was because they explained how he can reform himself after being killed. Maybe it's because they show that his zealotry is because he truly worships and loves Galactus. I don't know. It's probably because of the talking space uterus. Yeah, it's probably because of that. The comic is well written, you get some pathos for both characters and the art is top notch, a solid buy.

 

[BrianWilly]

See, if Ben and Sally's response to Tony was genuine, then it doesn't explain Tony's reaction or, frankly, the entire "you're a massive *****ebag and should be ashamed of yourself and we're so on to you" subtext of the speech and the looks on their faces.

But if their response was sarcastic, then it doesn't explain why they don't publish the story.

This why I thought that the issue was confusing in addition to crappy.