Bought/Thought "I should be studying" Edition for Dec.6th!

[Kevin]

I liked Black Panther's civil war Tie-in. To be honest, I wanted to start the book last years because It involved a black character. Then I Thought, "No, him being black will just bore me in the long run." So I didn't get the book. But now I'm glad I did because I liked it enough to maybe continue. oh, and Having Storm in the book doesn't hurt.t:

 

[hippie_hunter]

I liked Black Panther's civil war Tie-in. To be honest, I wanted to start the book last years because It involved a black character. Then I Thought, "No, him being black will just bore me in the long run." So I didn't get the book. But now I'm glad I did because I liked it enough to maybe continue. oh, and Having Storm in the book doesn't hurt.t:

Do you like All-Star Batman and Robin?

 

[Doc Destruction]

Low blow!

 

[Namor]

So JSA is worth picking up?

 

[Darthphere]

Anybody else think its hilarious how DC had to make sure you understood that Detective took place before Joker got a cap in his head?

 

[deemar325]

I read the Black Panther tie-in to Civil War and god damn, not even Civil War could save that book (like it did for Amazing Spider-Man and New Avengers). This book is pure crap, and those who say books like New Avengers is Marvel's worst book, you've clearly haven't read Black Panther!

1. Do they really have to stress the fact that Black Panther is I dunno...African!

Why not? Does Marvel have to stress Captain America is American? Black Panther represents both Wakanda and by default Africa as a whole, does 'stressing' his place of origin Africa make him seem (less than) too you? I've read comics all my life of characters who represent countries and ethnicity.
Not once did I say "Damn I'm so tired of that Banshee and his Irish heritage..." or "Screw that Jewish Ben Grimm!" So what if Hudlin's focus is on BP's African background? For one Hudlin's black so naturally he'd want to tackle the issue, Two: Why are people so up in arms about a comic with a mostly 'black' point of view? For over seventy years it wasn't a problem when most superheroes where white guys (Usually with Irish/Scottish names.) No one cried bloody murder when Tarzan is running around Africa calling himself 'Lord of the Jungle' or when a Native American like Tonto rides shotgun to the pure as the white driven snow Lone Ranger, when in reality Tonto is aiding a masked guy who wantly shoots down 'Injuns'. Ironfist could have easily been Asian instead of white, really it would be most likely that he would've been Asian. Yet the theme of the white hero appropriating the mantle/legacy/role/culture of the minority as to show the superiority of the white guy to take over the role of hero in that culture exp: Tarzan,the Phantom,Ironfist,Flaming Skull,Tom Cruise (Last Samurai),Alan Quatermain..etc..



2. Why is a world leader involving himself with the affairs of another nation? Yes, they'll say injustice, but that doesn't excuse the fact that Black Panther is going out of his bounds here.

Umm..ever heard of George Bush? Plus BP has deep ties to America and the Avengers sooo..it's not farfetched that he would be involved in such things.

3. Why are all of Black Panther's and Storm's fans black?

So you assume, he didn't last this long by having only black fans. Especially when most of the readership is twentysomething white guys, add to the possibilty that other minorties i.e. Latinos,Asians..etc..might have latched on to finally a noble none Anglo superhero. Hell, Marvel editor Axel Alonzo's favorite hero is Black Panther.



4. This book didn't seem to get the memo that making the Superhuman Registration Act look as *****ey as possible is over. Trying to force Storm to register. Trying to make Black Panther look bad, and fail miserably by the way. Preemptively attacking Storm and Black Panther right in front of a crowd of people (who are 100% black for some odd reason)

I don't hear you whinning when Superman or (Blank white superhero) is fighting in front of a white crowd and it happens all the time! Wow! A bunch of blacks in one place!? Just like white folk?!

5. The pathetic pwning of Iron Man by Black Panther. After the way Iron Man kicked Captain America's ass, should he basically kick Black Panther's ass the same way?

First off, BP is the near equal to Tony in intellect, second he has resources that Cap doesn't have readily on hand, BP has fought Tony many times in a battle of both wits and brawn. BP is known to be a master tactian and strategist sure Tony is amped up power wise and I do agree BP should have had his ass handed to him, but it's likely T'challa has been keeping tabs on Tony and his advancements so it wouuld be less of a suprise for him to find that Tony is much more powerful than before.

Although, on this point I agree with you ultimately.


This book is just plain bad. Instead of good stories, this book relies on Black Panther's race and just trying to make him look awesome by any means necessary.

Yeah.. Anyways.. So what if Marvel wants to raise the level of a none white superhero? It benefits them by bringing in more diverse readers, just like Wonderwoman is so revelant to girls. Reggie started with a rough start, but quickly came up to speed in the quality in my opinion on the book yeah it could be better, but it's still a good read.

Hell the first four panels of this web-comic sum up what the hell this book is about:

F**k you Reginald Hudlin! F**k you up your stupid ass!

That's actually damn funny, even I gotta kick outta that. ^

 

[deemar325]

Anybody else think its hilarious how DC had to make sure you understood that Detective took place before Joker got a cap in his head?

Kinda, I'd assume most would understand the time of the story.

 

[Darthphere]

Dude, race cards suck. Black Panther sux because its written horribly.

 

[deemar325]

I like BP so far. I'll admit Hudlin can be heavy handed, but I see it as a voice that hasn't been fully represented in superhero comics.

I just get the feeling people wouldn't be so bent out of shape if Black Panther was about a white guy in a fictional African country ala Tarzan.

 

[Darthphere]

I like BP so far. I'll admit Hudlin can be heavy handed, but I see it as a voice that hasn't been fully represented in superhero comics.

I just get the feeling people wouldn't be so bent out of shape if Black Panther was about a white guy in a fictional African country ala Tarzan.

Difference is, Hudlin can't write worth a damn. You look at a run like Priest's and what you get is a highly relevant political comic that's actually interesting and entertaining to read. I don't and never will need a comic where Black panther utters the quote "You're straight tripping boo" That line itself set the character back 10 years.

 

[deemar325]

LOL!!

Yeah I didn't like that too much either.

"Trippin Boo"

Priest in general is hard to top as far as BP, his run is the standard. I still just get a rush out of Hudlin's BP it's hard to explain, but theres little things that he does with the characters that I just dig.

 

[Anubis]

The reason why BP is involving himself in this mess isn't necessarily because he's trying to right any injustices (though that does play a part.) It's to cover his own ass. Once all this gets sorted out and the U.S. Government has gotten themselves an army of superhumans at their disposal, who do you think they are gonna come after? Did anybody read the the last four issues where he talked this s**t over with Doom, Namor, and the Inhumans?

I'll admit, Hudlin is in no way shape or form a great writer, but, he's nowhere near as bad as people say he is. His run on BP has been good over all. Better than Priests? Hell no. But he's done pretty well.

 

[deemar325]

The reason why BP is involving himself in this mess isn't necessarily because he's trying to right any injustices (though that does play a part.) It's to cover his own ass. Once all this gets sorted out and the U.S. Government has gotten themselves an army of superhumans at their disposal, who do you think they are gonna come after? Did anybody read the the last four issues where he talked this s**t over with Doom, Namor, and the Inhumans?

I'll admit, Hudlin is in no way shape or form a great writer, but, he's nowhere near as bad as people say he is. His run on BP has been good over all. Better than Priests? Hell no. But he's done pretty well.

Pretty much, BP is too much of a potential threat. Plus it would be a boon to the U.S. to get ahold of Wakandan tech and vibranium.

 

[Anubis]

Exactly.

 

[deemar325]

Who else could writer a good BP?

 

[Darthphere]

Two words: Dwayne McDuffie.

 

[GNR]

I stopped reading BP a while back but did enjoy that arc with Blade,Cage and Voodoo.

I agree with Deemar,not as bad as fanboys say he is.He's no Daniel Way,that's for sure.

 

[Anubis]

Two words: Dwayne McDuffie.

He'd be pretty good.

 

[deemar325]

Two words: Dwayne McDuffie.

Hells yeah!

I'd like to see what Ed Brubaker or Geoff Johns could do with BP. Johns had a good handle on him during his short stint on Avengers.

 

[GNR]

Technically Duffie will be writing BP if the rumors about BP and Storm joining the FF are true.

 

[Darthphere]

Hells yeah!

I'd like to see what Ed Brubaker or Geoff Johns could do with BP. Johns had a good handle on him during his short stint on Avengers.

Red Zone. Highly underrated.

 

[deemar325]

Technically Duffie will be writing BP if the rumors about BP and Storm joining the FF are true.

As cool as that would be I'm conflicted because I still want my old FF, but McDuffie writting BP would be worth it even if it would be in FF.

 

[Anubis]

It makes absolutely no sense for BP and Storm to be in the FF. They'd have to really come up with some out there s**t for that to work. I don't care whose writing it.

 

[deemar325]

Red Zone. Highly underrated.

Kinda makes you wish Geoff didn't have such a hard on for JSA.

 

[Darthphere]

It makes absolutely no sense for BP and Storm to be in the FF. They'd have to really come up with some out there s**t for that to work. I don't care whose writing it.

It does if they join Sue and Johnny.