Bought/Thought-subs rule-Jan 24, 2007

[Xofenroht]

I always assumed the canadian flights were canadian only teams, hence why the goverment created them.

I always thought the Canadian government created them to have a super hero team of their own rather than simply to have super powered Canadians.

 

[wobbly]

I just find it a little too contrived. I mean Reed Richards makes a boo-boo in calibrating his Negative Zone gateway that just so happens to suck in Captain Marvel? Reed knows how to get into the NEgative Zone, he might as well have a summer-home there. and why Captain Marvel? Why not Spidey from his time there, or Blastaar, or Anhillus. Instead we get a character who can neither confirm nor deny whether they ever went to the future or not (since Reed and Sentry were obviously talking about sending Mar-Vell back at some point). also they just so happened to pull a hero with a ticking clock!

lets not forget they've been talking about cloning heroes, they did it with Thor. I say this is another Clone.

In the last issue of FF Reed explained why he has been supporting the Pro-Reg cause: Nothing to do with a persecuted uncle at all (which didn't make sense as an excuse from the get go: if anything a relative screwed over by the McCarthy witch-hunts that would give Reed more reason to be against it), it was all to do with a complex mathematical equation he had come up with stating 31 (or something like that) specific 'evil' events have to occur to save the world...

The Registration act was one of them, Clor was presumably another, as would be the enlisting of several villains to act as the SHRA's enforcers. So with that in mind you can bet pretty much every other instance of Reed doing something way out of character and borderline evil for a while will also be chalked up to this grand equation.

Now regarding cloning Mar-Vell...well Clor is the precedent, and we have seen what looked like a blond haired body floating in a tube that could pass for Mar-vell in an earlier issue. Only thing against that though is how they could replicate his memories? (Clor is pretty much a blank slate working to a program..wouldn't they do the same for CM?) Not to mention how damned cruel that would be: create a clone, give them almost all the memories of the original save for his death, then tell him he is gonna die a very painful death anyway once he he has served their purpose in the here and now and they get round to sending him back...Hell, thats not just cruel, that is downright evil if it's something they have done on purpose.

But then we have Reed's equation and all those 'necessary evils to save to world' thing again so who knows?

Another possibility is that this is the real Mar-Vell and Reed/Tony brought them here deliberately and used something to ensure his co-operation (nanites, mind control or something like that). Of those two options, though it's a very sh#tty thing for them to have done, the cloning does seem the more likely (we've already seen cloning at work and its hard to see CM just doing what they want without questioning bugger-all about it).

 

[Darthphere]

I feel more confused than remorseful.

Word on that, in any case, Mar-Vell is back, and I guess thats cool in my book.

 

[Doc Destruction]

Avengers Next- This is just old school fun. If you complain about Marvel's current direction, and you like classic comics, pick up the inevitable digest, please. I want Marvel to keep 'em coming. 8/10

Wisest thing Marc has ever said. I couldn't agree more. /high five

 

[Doc Destruction]

Well i don't think hes a clone, whats the point of doing that?

What's the point of bringing him back at all???

 

[Kevin]

What's the point of bringing him back at all???

That's what we have to wait and see for.

 

[WOLVERINE25TH]

BOUGHT:
52 #38
AGENTS OF ATLAS #3-6
ALL NEW HANDBOOK UPDATE #1
AVENGERS NEXT #5
BATMAN #612
CIVIL WAR THE RETURN
CRIMINAL #4
DMZ #15
DOCTOR STRANGE OATH #4
ETERNALS #6
FLASH #8
HELLSTORM #4
HEROES FOR HIRE #6
INVINCIBLE #38
MOON KNIGHT #7
NIGHTMARE ON ELM STREET #4
PUNISHER WAR JOURNAL #3
RED SONJA ANNUAL #1
SILENT WAR #1
SPIDER-MAN LOVES MARY JANE #14
SUPERGIRL AND THE LOSH #26
WISDOM #2
WOLVERINE #50
WOLVERINE ORIGINS #10
X-FACTOR #15

THOUGHT:
52 #38 - A new Question? That is the question. And four horsemen of the Apokalips. 14 weeks to go!

ALL NEW HANDBOOK UPDATE #1 - I loves me some handbooks! These things are so great.

AVENGERS NEXT #5 - Speaking of great, old school style KICKS ASS in this series. A resolution to every plot point, and an all-new Avengers team formed. Not to mention the usual ass kickery one would expect. Honestly, if this doesn't garner interest in new A-Next adventures I'd be surprised.

CIVIL WAR THE RETURN - Yet another poignant death in the MU retconned away. That's right, folks...Captain Marvel is back. Apparently the well is so tapped out for original characters that this is what we've got. And then, we've got a back-up story with the boring Sentry deciding to register or not. It had nothing at all to do with the first story other than it was related to Civil War. So we get an entire issue dubbed THE RETURN and only HALF of it dedicated to said return. Yeah, I'm not too thrilled with this.

DOCTOR STRANGE OATH #4 - Another good issue with the humor and action we've come to expect. If this was how a future Doc Strange series was done, I'd pick it up in a heartbeat.

ETERNALS #6 - Featuring Iron Man and Giant-Man WITHOUT their acting like d***s! Amazing, huh? Well, the Celestial is awake and is gonna pass judgement on the planet come sundown. So much for the Civil War, huh?

FLASH #8 - The plot in this book moves as fast as the character, which isn't a good thing. Aside from the usual cliches it just can't seem to find a direction and stick with it. And now I hear Guggenheim, who nearly decimated Wolverine in his run, is about to take over. Thinking this book is gonna be dropped.

HELLSTORM #4 - Weirdness abounds. Something about the story is just not catching me and leaves me cold.

HEROES FOR HIRE #6 - The Headmen have a Doombot and only Humbug stands in their way! No, seriously. The bigger guys are all busy with illegal high-tech arms being sold...and about to be blown up. Yup, liking this series.

INVINCIBLE #38 - Mark's buddy tries to adjust to life as a cyborg, Mark tries to make time with his girl, and then Mark decides to go and kiss another girl. Cue the drama! Still a good book, and I still need to read the first 25 issues. Dammit.

MOON KNIGHT #7 - Eh. The panels are a little better arranged this time out, but overall I don't like the new MK. He's like Batman dressed in white now. Also a little sick of dark and gritty heroes. It works for some, but not for every freakin' one under a banner. I'd enjoy a return to the fun and light days currently found in all the All-Ages books.

PUNISHER WAR JOURNAL #3 - Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't this like the THIRD comic to focus on Cap and Punny fighting? Damn, that musta been some helluva fight. Also, when in the hell did that flashback take place? According to the MAX series, Punny still fought in Vietnam, unless it's been recently bumped up to the Gulf War. Cap was frozen at the end of WWII until he was found by the Avengers. Now, for Cap to be around during Nam, the Avengers woulda had to find him in the 70s, but it's been established the Marvel Universe is just under 20 years old. So I really don't know where or how these flashbacks fit into established continuity and frankly just come off like trying to make the Cap/Punny beatdown deeper than it really was.

SILENT WAR #1 - The art was horrible and the continuity is a mess. The FF are still together which means it's right before Civil War. So we got a war upon a war...they shoulda somehow integrated the Silent War into the Civil War instead of making it a separate event. Maybe they're trying for the success of Annihilation? Anyways, the ending was interesting so I'll keep on reading. For now.

SPIDER-MAN LOVES MARY JANE #14 - I LOVE THIS BOOK! It's simple, and yet keeps me wanting more. I'm very upset about McKeever becoming DC exclusive, especially since it's been revealed Felicia Hardy comes in on #17...3 issues before he leaves. This book will either be cancelled or given to an inferior writer, and that is just wrong as it's such a great book. Seriously, read it now while you have the chance. You won't have too much longer to do it.

SUPERGIRL AND THE LOSH #26 - Also a good issue, looks like the Legion bit off more than they can chew with more underground robots. Makes ya wonder just what the purpose was for those things anyways...

WISDOM #2 - WTF?! This book made about as much sense as a Bush speech. The plot and dialogue seemed to flop all over the place, not taking the time needed to effectively develop one piece of action before going to another.

WOLVERINE #50 - Nice artwork, dunno how I feel about the story yet. We'll see how Jeph handles Wolvie with memories. But I don't have much faith in following along as his stories have rarely made sense to me this past year. The back-up was proof of that as Wolvie was suddenly having a dream about Ultimate Wolvie's being torn in half by Hulk. A possible jab at UWvH being so late? (Oh, and an FYI, Mr. Loeb...Wolvie wore a costume like that a couple years ago, particularly around when they had the .25 cent comics.)

WOLVERINE ORIGINS #10 - Boy, does this suck. So yet another old time character gets offed and we got another kid gone crazy. This guy grasps continuity, he seems to have a love for characters, so why in the hell is this series SUCKING so hard?!

X-FACTOR #15 - MM's going nuts, and M and Syren are in jail in France for helping out depowered mutants! This issue was great like the series has consistently been. Good action and humor and all that fun stuff.

 

[Not Jake]

SILENT WAR #1 - The art was horrible

Once again, your opinion defies good taste, and possibly the laws of physics.

 

[WOLVERINE25TH]

Once again, I can't seem to give a CRAP what you think.

 

[Brainiac 8]

Silent War #1 - Great start to the series. Just recently I picked up the MK run of Inhumans from the late ninties, and I'm glad to see that many of the ideas presented in that series is now being continued. One of my favorite creations from that series was Naurees, and I was thrilled to see her involved. I think the art was great and fit the book fine...and it was very similar to the MK series art. I'm just an inhumans junkie and hope that this will usher in their continued involvement in the MU. 5/5

 

[supermarvelman]

I always assumed the canadian flights were canadian only teams, hence why the goverment created them.

Well maybe that used to be a rule, things change. Most of the Flight members where killed by the Collective, I dont think the Canuck government was prepared for that. I also dont think the Canadian government realizes that there is a whole other group of Flight members in space.

 

[supermarvelman]

What's the point of bringing him back at all???

Why not bring him back?

 

[supermarvelman]

CIVIL WAR THE RETURN - Yet another poignant death in the MU retconned away. That's right, folks...Captain Marvel is back. Apparently the well is so tapped out for original characters that this is what we've got. And then, we've got a back-up story with the boring Sentry deciding to register or not. It had nothing at all to do with the first story other than it was related to Civil War. So we get an entire issue dubbed THE RETURN and only HALF of it dedicated to said return. Yeah, I'm not too thrilled with this.

It is not a retcon at all. They made the point that he will eventually die from cancer, that is not a retcon.

 

[Darthphere]

What's the point of bringing him back at all???

Whats the point of doing anything? Why, to ***** about it of course.

Once again, your opinion defies good taste, and possibly the laws of physics.

I must agree.

 

[WOLVERINE25TH]

Bad choice of words, but still unneccessary.

 

[Red]

Where's Dread? I need him to rip The Return a part so I can convince myself I shouldn't buy it.

 

[Darthphere]

Where's Dread? I need him to rip The Return a part so I can convince myself I shouldn't buy it.

Call me crazy, but it seems you made your mind up already.

 

[Red]

I guess so. All the negitive reviews must have got to me.

 

[supermarvelman]

I dont bother posting a positive review cause people make there own decisions. I simply liked the Return.

 

[Nasty-B]

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PUNISHER WAR JOURNAL #3 - Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't this like the THIRD comic to focus on Cap and Punny fighting? Damn, that musta been some helluva fight. Also, when in the hell did that flashback take place? According to the MAX series, Punny still fought in Vietnam, unless it's been recently bumped up to the Gulf War. Cap was frozen at the end of WWII until he was found by the Avengers. Now, for Cap to be around during Nam, the Avengers woulda had to find him in the 70s, but it's been established the Marvel Universe is just under 20 years old. So I really don't know where or how these flashbacks fit into established continuity and frankly just come off like trying to make the Cap/Punny beatdown deeper than it really was.
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Frank states that he figured out later that the government was just using a guy in the costume, like Santa Clause. The Cap in the flashback was one of the stand-ins from before they found him on ice.

 

[iloveclones]

Personally, I have chosen not to accept the whole "MU being 20 years old" thing. I don't care that it doesn't make sense. For me Cap was awakened in the 60s, Frank fought in Vietnam, and they are both in their late 30s, early 40s. I have no problem with the universe imploding at the illogic of it all.

 

[Doc Destruction]

Why not bring him back?

His death was one of the most touching, well written and sad moments in comic history. It wasn't a publicity stunt, just good, solid writing.

To bring him back into the slop that is Civil War for no good reason is like pissing on the Mona Lisa.

 

[Doc Destruction]

Personally, I have chosen not to accept the whole "MU being 20 years old" thing. I don't care that it doesn't make sense. For me Cap was awakened in the 60s, Frank fought in Vietnam, and they are both in their late 30s, early 40s. I have no problem with the universe imploding at the illogic of it all.

The universe IS about to implode.

I agree with you.

 

[Kevin]

His death was one of the most touching, well written and sad moments in comic history. It wasn't a publicity stunt, just good, solid writing.

To bring him back into the slop that is Civil War for no good reason is like pissing on the Mona Lisa.

Who told the idiot who killed him to kill him?

 

[Kevin]

The MU isn't 20 years old.