Rise of the Silver Surfer BOX OFFICE Discussion

[Advanced Dark]

Ok can we just shut this useless thread now if we're not gonna all grow up and talk about the box office.

Take it to the private messages guys.

 

[Carp Man]

Even in the context of your faux online persona, that was a really obnoxious thing to say. I take it then that you refuse to watch the X-Men films.

I don't sugar coat the pill GL. You know that. I tell it as I percieve it, and what my beliefs tell me is right.

 

[Carp Man]

Ok can we just shut this useless thread now if we're not gonna all grow up and talk about the box office.

Take it to the private messages guys.

Well someone asked how I can judge a movie without seeing it, and I answered.

 

[GL's Light]

I don't sugar coat the pill GL. You know that. I tell it as I percieve it, and what my beliefs tell me is right.

Have you seen the X-Men films or haven't you? What did you think of them, and did you notice the blatantly obvious anti-homophobia subtext?

 

[Kelly]

Ok can we just shut this useless thread now if we're not gonna all grow up and talk about the box office.

Take it to the private messages guys.

The voice of reason......lmao.

 

[Advanced Dark]

^ Should I change my name to Advanced Hypocrite?

I'm learning ok.

 

[Advanced Dark]

Well someone asked how I can judge a movie without seeing it, and I answered.

Just post the updated #'s damnit.

Domestic: $129,881,120 54.3%
+ Foreign: $109,405,297 45.7%

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= Worldwide: $239,286,417

 

[Kelly]

^ Should I change my name to Advanced Hypocrite?

I'm learning ok.

I'm sorry...............it just was funny...............

 

[Carp Man]

Just post the updated #'s damnit.

Domestic: $129,881,120 54.3%
+ Foreign: $109,405,297 45.7%

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= Worldwide: $239,286,417

I was just getting ready to check, to once again get the thread back on topic. t: It's really crawling to 130.

 

[GL's Light]

to once again get the thread back on topic.

Funny how you now want to get the thread back on topic. Eager to avoid answering my questions about the X-Men films, eh?

 

[GreenKToo]

They say appearance is everything. If it looks good, you'll buy it. SR looked like it was not good, starting with the suit. The cape looked like a shower curtain, and the rest of it made my skin crawl. I can draw a conclusion from appearance only. Why do you think advertisers put their best foot foward when advertising their product ?

thats kool. I just thought you had saw it.

 

[Carp Man]

thats kool. I just thought you had saw it.

Nah. Waste of money. And GL, it is useless to continue this discussion. I made my point clear, and dats the end. I refuse to get in debate with you.

 

[GL's Light]

And GL, it is useless to continue this descussion. I made my point clear, and dats the end. I refuse to get in debate with you.

And it's perfectly clear why you refuse to do so.

 

[tviceman]

Carp: let me get this straight.
are you saying that all of the time you spent bashing S.R. was done without you even seeing it???
Say it ain't so.

I can understand someone hating a film if they have saw it, but not if they havent.

He bashes nearly every movie he hasn't seen that is compared to F42. Transformers? Superman? He reads the plot summaries at themovie spoilers and draws conclusions for 4-5 paragraphs.

 

[tviceman]

This month it opens in 14 markets, and Japan in September. These next 2 months will tell. Right now it sits at $ 239.2 WW. I don't see it hitting $ 300 WW. It would need $ 61 million from those 15 markets. 4 million per market ? I guess it's possible. If it hits $ 300 WW, with the studio getting 55 % of the gross, that would be $ 165 million for the studio. Plus DVD sales. Plus cable. I think that warrents a 3. Right now the studio has $ 131.6 million.

Of course there will eventually be another F4.

How much less PROFIT will F42 make than the first one? 30 million? 40 million? Fox will look at this from a business standpoint and may gather that, without big changes (new writer, new director, possibly new actors) the next film will stand to make less than the current one, which could equal a loss instead of a profit. And if they think the next fiilm of this franchise can't be profitable in it's current state, changes will be made. And changes take time. Hopefully, they'll take too much time and Marvel will reacquire the rights.

 

[highguard]

^^ Well the only thing they will change is the director. I think that Tim Story is the one who actually saved this franchise. It is so weird, you can see by the changes he made, bringing in Payne and other stuff that he is responsible for moving the movie from where it was to where it is, which is closer to the fantastic four.

Now this is the problem Fox may sit and say, well our cuts and arm twisting had nothing to do with the BO drop, its the changes that Tim made.

Have you ever seen a boss blame himself, when he has bosses (directors), that will get you fired. Even if they know its their fault they will spin it to try to keep their jobs. I am sure most know that FF2 underperformed and the negative buzz surrounding the premier and the Galactus decision.

Rothman will want to spin the situation in a fashion that makes him look good.

Having said all of that, something is up with Fox, they keep missing deadlines, is this normal for them or are they running a very tight ship with limited resources, it is starting to affect their marketing and promotions I think.

having said all of that they still have three summer movies all making over 120 million dollars looks like. That can't be bad for Rothman.

I still see Tim taking the fall and I think he is the one that deserves most of the credit for what we got.

For me I still love FF1 and FF2 more than any of the Xmen movies so that tells me that I got enough of what I like about the fantastic four.

Unfortunately summer is where the big boys play and something is going to have to happen if the FF is going to continue to be a summer staple.

I say do a big push and shoot two movies back to back for Fantastic Four, that will save on budget and overhead and then close the series out.

Fox owes us this much.

 

[Mr. Socko]

Nice post.

The rest of this thread is hilarious!

 

[C. Lee]

Let me put it this way. What 2 consenting adults chose to do is their business, and I will uphold their right to do it. But I don't want to see it, or even the appearence of it in my movies, my TV show, or in the government. I did not see Brokeback Mountain, Capote, or SR for that very reason. I refuse to give my money, or my viewing time to such things. If I do, I feel I am giving my approval.

I generaly don't say things like this.....but that is the stupidist thing I have heard about SR in quite awhile.

99% of the viewers have complained about how SR has Superman trying to breakup the perfect coupling of Lois and Richard White.....and all you see is some ....gayness.....damn, everytime I think you can't get worse....you do.

 

[Spider-Fan]

^^ Well the only thing they will change is the director. I think that Tim Story is the one who actually saved this franchise. It is so weird, you can see by the changes he made, bringing in Payne and other stuff that he is responsible for moving the movie from where it was to where it is, which is closer to the fantastic four.

Now this is the problem Fox may sit and say, well our cuts and arm twisting had nothing to do with the BO drop, its the changes that Tim made.

Have you ever seen a boss blame himself, when he has bosses (directors), that will get you fired. Even if they know its their fault they will spin it to try to keep their jobs. I am sure most know that FF2 underperformed and the negative buzz surrounding the premier and the Galactus decision.

Rothman will want to spin the situation in a fashion that makes him look good.

Having said all of that, something is up with Fox, they keep missing deadlines, is this normal for them or are they running a very tight ship with limited resources, it is starting to affect their marketing and promotions I think.

having said all of that they still have three summer movies all making over 120 million dollars looks like. That can't be bad for Rothman.

I still see Tim taking the fall and I think he is the one that deserves most of the credit for what we got.

For me I still love FF1 and FF2 more than any of the Xmen movies so that tells me that I got enough of what I like about the fantastic four.

Unfortunately summer is where the big boys play and something is going to have to happen if the FF is going to continue to be a summer staple.

I say do a big push and shoot two movies back to back for Fantastic Four, that will save on budget and overhead and then close the series out.

Fox owes us this much.

Tim needs work on his effects skills, though. Some of the effects are just shoddy.

 

[Bishop2]

Tim doesn't sit around making special effects. That's not the work of the director. He also was hired after the script for the first film was already written, so he didn't put a whole lot of "direction" into how the story would go on the page. Although he did request a few changes, it wasn't something he could overhaul at that point.

 

[Spider-Fan]

Tim doesn't sit around making special effects. That's not the work of the director. He also was hired after the script for the first film was already written, so he didn't put a whole lot of "direction" into how the story would go on the page. Although he did request a few changes, it wasn't something he could overhaul at that point.

I realize that...but he is in charge of the effects crew, and they are not doing a great job. WETA did great on the Surfer, Johnny looks awesome, but Reed looks bad most of the time.

 

[Bishop2]

I realize that...but he is in charge of the effects crew, and they are not doing a great job. WETA did great on the Surfer, Johnny looks awesome, but Reed looks bad most of the time.

Personally my only issue is with Reed's effects in the big dancing scene. I have no complaints about anything else - the digital imagery of Johnny, Sue, Reed when in costume, the digital London Eye, the digital work in the Johnny/Doom brawl... I really just think the dancing scene should've been worked better.

In comparison, I think the effects in the first one are pretty much spot-on.

 

[Carp Man]

Nice post.

The rest of this thread is hilarious!

You have to liven it up in here once in a while. t:

 

[Spider–Man]

Here's my question: How long does Fox have to make its next FF film before the rights switch back to Marvel? Would a SS film count towards Fox's rights to the FF franchise?

 

[Spider-Fan]

Here's my question: How long does Fox have to make its next FF film before the rights switch back to Marvel? Would a SS film count towards Fox's rights to the FF franchise?

SS movie would count toward the FF franchise.