The Marvels Box Office Thread

[psylockolussus]

They've saturated the Marvel Studios brand at this point. I wish someone at Disney have foreseen this outcome, when in 2021, they've announced so many shows targetted to be released in such a short period of time. Remember Kang Dynasty and Secret Wars were both supposed to come out in 2025?

There is no better time to step back and lower the amount of annual releases starting in 2024. But whew! Loki hasn't ended yet, and we are just more or less 10 weeks away from Echo and possibly a new season of What if and the X-Men cartoon revival.

The boX office performance of The Marvels will be interesting, not because of what it will do for the film itself but the repercussions and impact it will make for Marvel Studios in the long run. Should they keep all upcoming projects alive, should they go back releasing 2 movies a year, what about the new release dates that would further delay Blade, Avengers, 4 and the X-Men? So many questions and to top all of this, actors are on strike and we have yet to witness how further it would delay/impact these planned films and shows.

 

[Comicbookguy339]

Marvel doing everything to salvage OW.

 

[Comicbookguy339]

The 45-52M number is framed in a negative light here but this shows that the numbers are actually improving. At least it won't go sub-40M which would have been Morbius territory.

 

[HammerDown]

The 45-52M number is framed in a negative light here but this shows that the numbers are actually improving. At least it won't go sub-40M which would have been Morbius territory.

It’s framed in a negative light because it’s a horrible box office result and the numbers haven’t been improving at all on the contrary. From all the stuff I’ve seen it has consistently been going lower and lower specially when you look at the ceiling for this.

As it stands a result around 50 is a flop. 40 would probably shelve this franchise and the character itself is probably going to be sidelined even further. I mean one could make the argument it probably already is the case.

 

[Comicbookguy339]

It’s framed in a negative light because it’s a horrible box office result and the numbers haven’t been improving at all on the contrary. From all the stuff I’ve seen it has consistently been going lower and lower specially when you look at the ceiling for this.

As it stands a result around 50 is a flop. 40 would probably shelve this franchise and the character itself is probably going to be sidelined even further. I mean one could make the argument it probably already is the case.

I realize that it is still terrible, it's just not quite as terrible as it could be.

 

[psylockolussus]

Honestly all pre-phase 4 characters should be done after Secret Wars. So with this imminent boX office disaster, we are only losing a 3rd Captain Marvel movie (and a Ms. Marvel movie if you were eXpecting one). Two and done sucks, ideally these solo films should at least reach a 3rd film. But Marvel Studios still have plenty of ips to mine.

Carol Danvers and the rest, will probably appear in Avengers or in other films after this. This is the studio that brought the actor from the flopped 2017 Abc show in a 2022 movie. So we will see more from this cast, if they are willing to return for more.

 

[Mysteryman]

Honestly all pre-phase 4 characters should be done after Secret Wars. So with this imminent boX office disaster, we are only losing a 3rd Captain Marvel movie (and a Ms. Marvel movie if you were eXpecting one). Two and done sucks, ideally these solo films should at least reach a 3rd film. But Marvel Studios still have plenty of ips to mine.

Carol Danvers and the rest, will probably appear in Avengers or in other films after this. This is the studio that brought the actor from the flopped 2017 Abc show in a 2022 movie. So we will see more from this cast, if they are willing to return for more.

What flopped actor?

 

[psylockolussus]

What flopped actor?

I said flopped 2017 ABC show (Inhumans), not flopped actor...

 

[Comicbookguy339]

According to BOT trackers presales have been improving and 60M OW is maybe back on the table.

 

[HammerDown]

According to BOT trackers presales have been improving and 60M OW is maybe back on the table.

Others still think 40-50. The low RT rating won’t help either.

 

[HammerDown]

Over at BOT they are now saying 35-49!

 

[Detective Conan]

Over at BOT they are now saying 35-49!

Oof. If it opens that lowly, I’m not even sure good domestic holdovers can save this one. This movie is pretty much DOA.

 

[psylockolussus]

Well help! I'd hate to see this gross less than 100 million in North America!

 

[Filmfreak]

Over at BOT they are now saying 35-49!

Boxoffice Pro now predicts 42.2 million for the weekend.

 

[psylockolussus]

Boxoffice Pro now predicts 42.2 million for the weekend.

Well I hope they are wrong!

 

[Comicbookguy339]

At this point it doesn't really matter if it's 30, 40, 50 or 60 million. The movie will lose around 200 million in any case.

 

[HammerDown]

Boxoffice Pro now predicts 42.2 million for the weekend.

Opening Weekend Range: 35-49M

 

[psylockolussus]

At this point it doesn't really matter if it's 30, 40, 50 or 60 million. The movie will lose around 200 million in any case.

60 million is underwhelming. But $30 to 40 million are bad.

Yes, they will lose millions at this point, but still Disney isn't going to throw away those eXtra millions. Also most Mcu films have a multiplier of at least 2.5x so if it opens with 30 million, there's no way its crossing the 100 million mark. It opens with $60 million, its guaranteed to gross over $120 million.

 

[Comicbookguy339]

60 million is underwhelming. But $30 to 40 million are bad.

Yes, they will lose millions at this point, but still Disney isn't going to throw away those eXtra millions. Also most Mcu films have a multiplier of at least 2.5x so if it opens with 30 million, there's no way its crossing the 100 million mark. It opens with $60 million, its guaranteed to gross over $120 million.

It will be their biggest flop in any case. Crossing the 100M mark domestically is not gonna make the heads at Disney consider another Captain Marvel or Ms. Marvel project. It's an unmitigated disaster.

 

[psylockolussus]

ICrossing the 100M mark domestically is not gonna make the heads at Disney consider another Captain Marvel or Ms. Marvel project.

It isn't.

But if you were Disney, would you accept 30 million over 60 million. Of course you would want the higher number, since higher number could translate to bigger numbers for the following weeks unlike the lowest possible number.

 

[Comicbookguy339]

It isn't.

But if you were Disney, would you accept 30 million over 60 million. Of course you would want the higher number, since higher number could translate to bigger numbers for the following numbers unlike the lowest possible number.

I guess at the end of the day I'm really only interested in box office in terms of how it will affect the chances of more movies in a series I enjoy. Don't really care how much money Disney makes.

 

[psylockolussus]

I guess at the end of the day I'm really only interested in box office in terms of how it will affect the chances of more movies in a series I enjoy. Don't really care how much money Disney makes.

Well at this point, a Captain Marvel 3 movie and a solo Ms. Marvel movie are unlikely to happen.

I think if this film came out two years ago instead of Eternals or Black Widow, the numbers would be a lot higher; guaranteeing a Captain Marvel 3.

 

[Filmfreak]

Over at BOT they are now saying 35-49!

Yeah...? I didn't counter your post, I backed it up.

 

[Comicbookguy339]

Well at this point, a Captain Marvel 3 movie and a solo Ms. Marvel movie are unlikely to happen.

I think if this film came out two years ago instead of Eternals or Black Widow, the numbers would be a lot higher; guaranteeing a Captain Marvel 3.

Having seen the movie, I think that as well.

 

[psylockolussus]

Having seen the movie, I think that as well.

Its crazy, releasing it 2 years earlier would have made a big difference (when theaters are still reopening). Compare this to Guardians 3 (6 years from Vol. 2), Dr. Strange 2 (5 1/2 years from DS1), Ant-Man 3 (4 1/2 years) and Black Panther 2 (4 1/2 years) - this one is being affected by the long gap (aside from the mcu fatigue) the most. It really makes me wonder if the public just don't care about Carol Danvers anymore.

In hindsight, Marvel Studios should have released the sequels first. Black Widow was a 1 off movie that wasn't getting a sequel anyway and a pre Endgame story that wasn't really needed in 2021 since Natasha is already dead. While Eternals is still not guaranteed to have a sequel and probably won't now.