Brad Bird Directing Tomorrowland

[Tacit Ronin]

Absolutely.
I think its interesting how people have already started to blame Lindelof.
Especially if the design elements turn out to be underwhelming .
Isn't that the directors purview ?

It is sort of funny when a director makes a less than good film the writer suddenly gets all the blame. The director can veto part or all of a script. If he chooses to film a script, then the contents of that script is his/her responsibility as well.

Of course, this is assuming the script isn't forced on him by the studio.

 

[Marvin]

It is sort of funny when a director makes a less than good film the writer suddenly gets all the blame. The director can veto part or all of a script. If he chooses to film a script, then the contents of that script is his/her responsibility as well.

Of course, this is assuming the script isn't forced on him by the studio.

Fans always pick and choose when to assume this happens.
The sad circumstance is that a blame game is played by fans, regardless of what is really going on. It helps when a punching bag director/writer/studio or even actor is involved.

As for script veto's, not as easy as one may think, especially the closer one get's to production and writing union rules.

 

[DarthSkywalker]

Is it not a fair question to ask why someone might have become a punching bag? I am not going to blame others when Uwe Boll is involved. Extreme example, I know.

 

[I SEE SPIDEY]

It's at 76% now with not that many reviews, it's going to be interesting seeing where it ends up.

 

[Marvin]

Is it not a fair question to ask why someone might have become a punching bag? I am not going to blame others when Uwe Boll is involved. Extreme example, I know.

Considering art is subjective, half the time someone is blamed it's due to a group of people simply not liking what they have done vs actually earning said blame. Other times it's due to association and circumstance.

Look at someone like Taylor Kitch for example..it's just a mess of fan blame and association there and hardly a 'fair question to ask' anything given how we as fans mis handle attributing blame in the first place.

 

[DarthSkywalker]

Considering art is subjective, half the time someone is blamed it's due to a group of people simply not liking what they have done vs actually earning said blame. Other times it's due to association and circumstance.

Look at someone like Taylor Kitch for example..it's just a mess of fan blame and association there and hardly a 'fair question to ask' anything given how we as fans mis handle attributing blame in the first place.

If art is subjective, how can you say a group of people not liking something is not akin to earning blame? At least to the people who find a problem with the work? Especially when they have more then a few credits under their belts.

Taylor Kitsch isn't a writer or director. It is a bit different.

 

[Marvin]

If art is subjective, how can you say a group of people not liking something is not akin to earning blame? At least to the people who find a problem with the work? Especially when they have more then a few credits under their belts.

Because it's just a group in the grand scheme of things. For example does Faraci and his 'group' hating everything that isn't "...." and spreading that agenda across the net now give credence to say, the Cameron hate? This group of people and what they themselves don't like in this internet age? I'd say no. I say the same thing when the group think happens with a group of critics and or fanboys and or bieber haters and or remake/reboot haters. It's all too fickle and fast spreading for my liking and we never actually hear from the greater consensus(outside of box office) to get a true polling. Not everyone agrees on anything but we are often content to stop at the polling of some tiny few... That's what I mean about a group and why unlike with science/math laws, this being subjective allows for alot of ish.

Taylor Kitsch isn't a writer or director. It is a bit different.

My point was that he is seen as something bad, he's poison or taints films now and for what, because he was in some bad films and didn't land the star lord contract? So much of this is circumstance. You get a great script(as a director), you get a great production as a writer..etc.
Fans will do what they do on the internet net either way, never fully taking into account the true story of the behind the scenes circumstance(Snipes acting a fool). Yes sometimes people do screw up consistently(perhaps M. Night is there now), but far too often the former occurs and I'm here speaking to that.

hope any of that made sense.

 

[Serpico Jones]

The Leftovers?

That show desperately needs a Randall Flagg type character. It's boring as hell.

 

[Marvin]

That show desperately needs a Randall Flagg type character. It's boring as hell.

Agreed.
And the funniest part being, this thing is riding off of another big mystery box type promise reveal at the end(where did they all go and such).
Should be an interesting finale.

 

[terry78]

Bird knows how to make family fare by not talking down to the young'uns, that is what I always admired about him. This one has that sense of dread to it, I think.

 

[dark_b]

i wonder if Bird had a bad experience directing Tomorrowland since he will be doing Incredibles 2. after 2 live action movies going back to directing an animated movie sequel? like Stanton with Finding Dory?

Pixar movies are long in the making. this could take 5 years. more than 5 years without a live action Bird movie?

 

[DocHolliday]

I like Brad Bird but I'm not feeling this one. Trailers are leaving me underwhelmed.

 

[Tim_Riggins]

i wonder if Bird had a bad experience directing Tomorrowland since he will be doing Incredibles 2. after 2 live action movies going back to directing an animated movie sequel? like Stanton with Finding Dory?

Pixar movies are long in the making. this could take 5 years. more than 5 years without a live action Bird movie?

Why are you and other people even jumping to that conclusion? Is it that impossible to believe that him & Stanton have wanted to do a sequel to their respective movies for years and just want to do that next. There is nothing low about going from two live action movies to an animated movie sequel, enough with the guessing games and pretending that Bird somewhat wants to distance himself from Tomorrowland, like seriously.

 

[dark_b]

with Stanton its not even a question. john carter bombed so hard that Disney fired people and admited to the public that they lost money.

 

[psylockolussus]

It's at 76% now with not that many reviews, it's going to be interesting seeing where it ends up.

Its now 68% with just 34 reviews.

I'm skipping this film this weekend and just wait for it to come out on DVD. I'll be watching Spy instead which looks more fun! t:

 

[Kane52630]

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[Snow Queen]

Pixar movies are long in the making. this could take 5 years. more than 5 years without a live action Bird movie?

There was a leaked sheet from some expo coming up that had release dates on it. Incredibles 2 was put down for June 2017.

 

[I SEE SPIDEY]

When a director starts talking about doing a sequel to his previous big hit during the marketing of his current film I start getting leery.

And yes we know that Stanton went running back to big Daddy Pixar after the explosive failure of John Carter.

Make no mistake Disney and Bird knew that the reviews were most likely not going to be as good as his past films. They are nervous about Tomorrowland's box office prospects so they dropped the Incredibles 2 bomb.

 

[terry78]

I think Bird kinda prefers the medium of animation, as it almost has no imagination limits with what you can do.

 

[DarthSkywalker]

When a director starts talking about doing a sequel to his previous big hit during the marketing of his current film I start getting leery.

And yes we know that Stanton went running back to big Daddy Pixar after the explosive failure of John Carter.

Make no mistake Disney and Bird knew that the reviews were most likely not going to be as good as his past films. They are nervous about Tomorrowland's box office prospects so they dropped the Incredibles 2 bomb.

You mean the thing announced a while ago, and has been asked of him everyday since 2004?

 

[I SEE SPIDEY]

You mean the thing announced a while ago, and has been asked of him everyday since 2004?

I don't believe he ever officially said that Incredibles 2 would be his next film until he had to promote Tomorrowland.

It's distraction "cover your ass" tactics 99% of the time Babe.

 

[DarthSkywalker]

I don't believe he ever officially said that Incredibles 2 would be his next film until he had to promote Tomorrowland.

It's distraction "cover your ass" tactics 99% of the time Babe.

He was announced as writing it when they announced it. It is kind of a big deal for me, so I remember quite clearly.

 

[Quasimod0]

It kills me that this movie is getting such lukewarm/poor reviews. Its rotten right now on rotten tomatoes.

 

[georgec]

Well, at least Brad Bird is going to move straight to Incredibles 2 then hopefully consider doing a SW movie.

 

[terry78]

I think it might be a little too experimental for some people from what I'm seeing.