Brian Michael Bendis is takeing over Marvel!

[Secret_Riddle]

Mark Grayson sounds similar to usm peter parker. that actually sounds like a really cool concept im going down to my comic store in a couple hours so maybe ill pick up volume one. lately ultimate spider-mans been lacking..the best arc in my opinion was the symbiote arc thats collected in the volume 6 tpb. i think they really have something going with the whole mary jane and peter parker relationship in general (i prefer the whole best friends that turns into something more thing as opposed to the classic party girl/nerd relationship) . im hoping the clone saga is going to be awesom though . but yah invincible sounds awesom im defiently going to pick it up thanks .im surprised i had never heard of it.

 

[Elijya]

you might not have heard of it because it's Image? Alot of readers read only Marvel and/or DC and tend to gloss over books by other publishers

get the vol 1 Hardcover, if you can, it contains the first three softcovers. The first softcover will make you go "this is kind of cool", but the second and third ones will make you go "HOLY $#@!ING &*#@ THIS BOOK ROCKS! MORE, i NEED MORE! GIVE IT TO ME, NOW!!!!!"

 

[Darthphere]

get the vol 1 Hardcover, if you can, it contains the first three softcovers. The first softcover will make you go "this is kind of cool", but the second and third ones will make you go "HOLY $#@!ING &*#@ THIS BOOK ROCKS! MORE, i NEED MORE! GIVE IT TO ME, NOW!!!!!"

Hopefully ill be making these remarks tonight.

 

[SpideyInATree]

Ahhh, Elijya, the voice of reason.

I thought the Warriors arc in USM was a really excellent story as well. The Deadpool arc wasn't anything special. And I haven't read the newest issue of USM so I can't really say what the Morbius/Blade arc is like.

With the Ultimate Clone Saga about to hit our laps, I'm really looking for Bendis to turn it up.

 

[Secret_Riddle]

lmfao alright i will . i could always just order the hardcover online if the store doesnt have it .

yah ive never read an image book so i guess thats why.

 

[Elijya]

Hopefully ill be making these remarks tonight.

because you'll be reading Invincible, or playing hanky panky?

 

[Secret_Riddle]

Ahhh, Elijya, the voice of reason.

I thought the Warriors arc in USM was a really excellent story as well. The Deadpool arc wasn't anything special. And I haven't read the newest issue of USM so I can't really say what the Morbius/Blade arc is like.

With the Ultimate Clone Saga about to hit our laps, I'm really looking for Bendis to turn it up.

well the latest issue is dissapointing and the arc is pretty much unfulfilled. hoepfully hes saving something special for the clone saga.

 

[Darthphere]

because you'll be reading Invincible, or playing hanky panky?

It could go either way, depending on how my date goes.

 

[Elijya]

see, in a perfect world, you could play Hanky Panky WHILE reading Invincible.

In that situation I think the only thing you could do is put a gun to your head and blow your brains out, because life would never be that good again

 

[SpideyInATree]

see, in a perfect world, you could play Hanky Panky WHILE reading Invincible.

In that situation I think the only thing you could do is put a gun to your head and blow your brains out, because life would never be that good again

Well, if you blow out your brains...of course, nothing will be that good again!

 

[Darthphere]

see, in a perfect world, you could play Hanky Panky WHILE reading Invincible.

In that situation I think the only thing you could do is put a gun to your head and blow your brains out, because life would never be that good again

Oh man I agree.

 

[Sin Eater]

since when do "fluke" writers win 5 Eisners?

That Tom Hanks is a real fluke actor, too. Those Oscar nominations were just beginers luck. His 15 minutes will be over soon, too.

Captain America by Ed Brubaker and Steve Epting WASN'T even submitted for Eisner considerations, so if you're thinking throwing the word Eisner out there actually means quality or I'm supposed to be impressed, think again.

Bendis is a hack. He's not the most intelligent of people, but he sure does kiss a good @ss. That's how he keeps his job and gets plum assignments while much superior writers don't have it so good.

You can believe the delusion that Bendis can write, if it helps you sleep, though.

And comparing Bendis to Hanks? If the Eisner comment didn't discredit you, that surely did...

 

[Elijya]

wow, guess this newbie really showed me

 

[Darthphere]

Damn, Elijya got pzowned!......not.

 

[gildea]

Captain America by Ed Brubaker and Steve Epting WASN'T even submitted for Eisner considerations, so if you're thinking throwing the word Eisner out there actually means quality or I'm supposed to be impressed, think again.

so you're using something the eisners didn't get the chance to see as a reason for rubbishing them?

Interesting.

 

[TheCorpulent1]

That was pretty weak, but I agree that the Eisners don't have much bearing on Bendis' mainstream work. I don't think there's much dispute, except from the really rabid Bendis haters, that Bendis' crime dramas and grittier stuff is great. It's his mainstream superhero books that flounder, and I don't believe he's won any Eisners for them. Of course, if he wins one for New Avengers, I'll have to lose all faith in the Eisners entirely.

 

[Elijya]

he won Best writer two years in a row in '02 and '03, and his slate at the time included Powers, Alias, Daredevil, and Ultimate Spider-Man

he also won for Best Continuing Series for Daredevil 2003, Best New Series for Powers in 2001, and Talent Deserving of Higher Recognition in 1999 for Jix, Goldfish, and Torso.

by "mainstream supoerhero books" are you including DD and USM? or just HoM and Avengers (which account for, like 1/25 of all his produced work)

 

[gildea]

Indeed. Despite the writing style DD is a mainstream superhero book. As is USM.

 

[TheCorpulent1]

I'd include USM but not Daredevil. Daredevil under Bendis was more of a noirish drama than an outright superhero comic. USM hasn't been good in years, I hear, and it was already waning by the time I dropped it a while ago.

Anyway, I rarely agree with awards. I definitely wouldn't have given him best writer with guys like Morrison, Rucka, and others churning out about as much work of much better quality month in and month out, but I guess that's just personal taste.

 

[Darthphere]

Oh snap! Corp got owned.

 

[gildea]

I'd include USM but not Daredevil. Daredevil under Bendis was more of a noirish drama than an outright superhero comic. USM hasn't been good in years, I hear, and it was already waning by the time I dropped it a while ago.

What is an outright superhero comic? Superhero comics by their nature always borrow from other genres

Recently USM has been pretty good btw. New warriors was great, deadpool was fun and the morbius arc was suitably creepy.

Anyway, I rarely agree with awards. I definitely wouldn't have given him best writer with guys like Morrison, Rucka, and others churning out about as much work of much better quality month in and month out, but I guess that's just personal taste.

What where morrison and rucka doing that was superior in '02 and '03 ?

Thought I do agree its personal taste

 

[TheCorpulent1]

I can't really explain the differentiation I'm trying to draw with DD, so I guess it could be called a mainstream superhero comic. What I remember from when I was reading Bendis' DD was that Matt spent very little time as Daredevil and I felt like DD could've been removed entirely and the story wouldn't have suffered much. It felt more like a noirish crime drama pulp, where Matt and Phil worked the angles of a case like vigilante detectives amidst a soap opera of personal tribulations, and the fact that Matt occasionally put on a costume was just incidental. But I realize that describes Batman's comics during some of my favorite runs and the few DD stories I actually like, like Miller's Man Without Fear mini, and Brubaker's Captain America run, too.

For the consideration of the Eisner's '02 and '03 awards, it'd be what they were writing in '01 and '02. For Morrison that was some of the best stuff from New X-Men like "Riot at Xavier's," and the sadly underrated Marvel Boy mini-series. For Rucka it was Queen & Country, various Batman stuff, an issue of The Tangled Web of Spider-Man that I loved, and Wonder Woman: The Hiketeia.

 

[GNR]

Ahhh, Elijya, the voice of reason.

I thought the Warriors arc in USM was a really excellent story as well. The Deadpool arc wasn't anything special. And I haven't read the newest issue of USM so I can't really say what the Morbius/Blade arc is like.

With the Ultimate Clone Saga about to hit our laps, I'm really looking for Bendis to turn it up.

Warriors was badass.

 

[SpideyInATree]

Warriors was badass.

Definitely. Anytime Ultimate Kingpin shows up it's going to be good.

 

[gildea]

What I remember from when I was reading Bendis' DD was that Matt spent very little time as Daredevil and I felt like DD could've been removed entirely and the story wouldn't have suffered much.

Dunno as bendis's run was centred round the 'outing' of DD I don't think you could remove DD from the story IMO.

He was in costume more than most seem to think also.