Why Brian Michael Bendis sucks

[TheCorpulent1]

Nor do I. People have said ASS is great, but I've got great and canon Superman stuff in Action Comics and Superman right now, so I'm content.

 

[deemar325]

I actually didn't mind Beast's death. I mean, when an X-Man dies and it's not Jean, I'm typically thrilled.

Heh, I think it was a bad move. Dazzler,Longshot,Shatterstar,CannonBall characters like thoughs I don't mind dying.

 

[Darthphere]

Nor do I. People have said ASS is great, but I've got great and canon Superman stuff in Action Comics and Superman right now, so I'm content.

Yeah, I like ass as well but I dont pick up ASS. People were getting boners over Morrison's 5 second origin and Im like ok? I think people give Morrison too much credit sometimes.

 

[TheCorpulent1]

I think Morrison deserves most of the credit he's given, but I'm not willing to buy anything simply because his name's on it. He tends to have pretty radical ideas. The kind that instantly polarizes fans of an established character. For example, I loved what he did with the X-Men but I hated his revamp of the New Gods in Mr. Miracle. For that matter, I hated that Scott Free wasn't Mr. Miracle. I didn't give a crap about Shiloh, nor did I care to learn about him. It goes against DC's legacy ideal, but anyone other than Scott Free as Mr. Miracle is like recasting MacGyver as someone other than Richard Dean Anderson. It could be done, I guess, but why?

 

[Darthphere]

I think Morrison deserves most of the credit he's given, but I'm not willing to buy anything simply because his name's on it. He tends to have pretty radical ideas. The kind that instantly polarizes fans of an established character. For example, I loved what he did with the X-Men but I hated his revamp of the New Gods in Mr. Miracle. For that matter, I hated that Scott Free wasn't Mr. Miracle. I didn't give a crap about Shiloh, nor did I care to learn about him. It goes against DC's legacy ideal, but anyone other than Scott Free as Mr. Miracle is like recasting MacGyver as someone other than Richard Dean Anderson. It could be done, I guess, but why?

True, true. I like Morrison, but have hated some of his stuff. Most of his New X-Men stuff didnt bold well for me.


EDIT: Oh and Quitely IMO sucks, most of the time.

 

[TheCorpulent1]

Whoa, hold on there. Say what you will about Morrison but "Quitely sucks"? Blasphemy!

 

[Darthphere]

Whoa, hold on there. Say what you will about Morrison but "Quitely sucks"? Blasphemy!

Nah, David Finch gets that rap for drawing people with lemon faces but Quitely is just as bad IMO. I liked him on WE3 and other stuff, but like before his New X-Men stuff was bad, im supposed to think that Emma is hot?

 

[TheCorpulent1]

He's not an "omg hot chikz!" artist. I get that people don't like his stylistic choices, but he is a badass artist.

 

[Darthphere]

He's not an "omg hot chikz!" artist. I get that people don't like his stylistic choices, but he is a badass artist.

Yeah, I take it back, he doesnt suck, hes just hit or miss for me, and more on the hit side. Im just being mean.

 

[deemar325]

I think Morrison deserves most of the credit he's given, but I'm not willing to buy anything simply because his name's on it. He tends to have pretty radical ideas. The kind that instantly polarizes fans of an established character. For example, I loved what he did with the X-Men but I hated his revamp of the New Gods in Mr. Miracle. For that matter, I hated that Scott Free wasn't Mr. Miracle. I didn't give a crap about Shiloh, nor did I care to learn about him. It goes against DC's legacy ideal, but anyone other than Scott Free as Mr. Miracle is like recasting MacGyver as someone other than Richard Dean Anderson. It could be done, I guess, but why?

The thing I like about Morrison even though he will bring about radical changes or ideas too characters or concepts, he doesn't forget what came before. NXM was a breath of fresh air and really reinvigorated the X-men, something Claremont or Austen could do.

 

[Darthphere]

The thing I like about Morrison even though he will bring about radical changes or ideas too characters or concepts, he doesn't forget what came before. NXM was a breath of fresh air and really reinvigorated the X-men, something Claremont or Austen could do.

Ill assume thats a typo. And say that I think Morrison pretty much ruined Cyclops forever.

 

[TheCorpulent1]

The thing I like about Morrison even though he will bring about radical changes or ideas too characters or concepts, he doesn't forget what came before. NXM was a breath of fresh air and really reinvigorated the X-men, something Claremont or Austen could do.

That's a good point. Even with Mr. Miracle, Morrison acknowledged that Shiloh was Scott's protege and had his roots with the original Miracle.

 

[Darthphere]

That's a good point. Even with Mr. Miracle, Morrison acknowledged that Shiloh was Scott's protege and had his roots with the original Miracle.

Shiloh, I remember reading a book about a beagle with that name.

 

[TheCorpulent1]

Shiloh, I remember reading a book about a beagle with that name.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mr._Miracle#Shilo_Norman

It's "Shilo," no h. My bad.

 

[Darthphere]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mr._Miracle#Shilo_Norman

It's "Shilo," no h. My bad.

Yeah, I knew who it is, i remember buying the book expecting some Scott Free goodness.

 

[TheCorpulent1]

Me, too. I dropped it after #2, when we found out the New Gods are now hookers and pimps roaming about Earth.

 

[Darthphere]

Me, too. I dropped it after #2, when we found out the New Gods are now hookers and pimps roaming about Earth.

Sounds bad.

 

[The Batman]

SpideyInATree, you seem to do this in every thread. When someone popular's getting bashed, all you can say is how popular they are or how much money they make, and how everyone who's bashing him is just jealous when it really could be that they just think he sucks

 

[kiuju2k]

I thought it was funny. I got 4 out of 10.

 

[deemar325]

That's a good point. Even with Mr. Miracle, Morrison acknowledged that Shiloh was Scott's protege and had his roots with the original Miracle.

That's the kind of writer I can respect. Morrison not once played 'Seven Soldiers' Mr.Miracle (Shilo) as if what came before didn't happen.

Say what you will about his New X-Men run, but Grant was the first guy in a long time too really rethink the X-men and even gave Cyclops his due. I can't think of another time when Cyclops was so interesting or placed so prominately in the storylines.

Even Joss Whedon is paying homage too Morrison's run and takes plot points and continuity from the period of X-men. Theres a reason for that, Morrison brought back originality to the X-men.

 

[deemar325]

SpideyInATree, you seem to do this in every thread. When someone popular's getting bashed, all you can say is how popular they are or how much money they make, and how everyone who's bashing him is just jealous when it really could be that they just think he sucks

I know right.

I can't hold it against SpideyTree, he's just passionate about his comics.

The difference to me between say Bendis and Morrison is that Grant respects the past and uses it to his advantage very well, his ability to write fantastic action scenes and eventive new characters with actual original origins and abilities is near genius.
While Bendis pretty much ignores what he doesn't like as far as continuity and forces events into continuity that doesn't make sense or follows a given line of behavior from a character, and he has a tendencey towards inconsistencey in behavior/plot/powers/dialogue, which really pulls you out of the story.

 

[The Batman]

I know right.

I can't hold it against SpideyTree, he's just passionate about his comics.

The difference to me between say Bendis and Morrison is that Grant respects the past and uses it to his advantage very well, his ability to write fantastic action scenes and eventive new characters with actual original origins and abilities is near genius.
While Bendis pretty much ignores what he doesn't like as far as continuity and forces events into continuity that doesn't make sense or follows a given line of behavior from a character, and he has a tendencey towards inconsistencey in behavior/plot/powers/dialogue, which really pulls you out of the story.

Morrison is just more creative to me. His books usually have a different flavor and style. hes not afraid to go big **** crazy, and he can do the drama as well. he truly is a genius who deserves the critical acclaim.

Bendis wastes your time by having superhero books which should have action with talking, and when he does get action, its weak. hes better suited for crime dramas, which is why his daredevil is pretty much his only 616 work that EVERYONE likes...

 

[deemar325]

Morrison is just more creative to me. His books usually have a different flavor and style. hes not afraid to go big **** crazy, and he can do the drama as well. he truly is a genius who deserves the critical acclaim.

Bendis wastes your time by having superhero books which should have action with talking, and when he does get action, its weak. hes better suited for crime dramas, which is why his daredevil is pretty much his only 616 work that EVERYONE likes...

I fully agree.

I don't get why people can't see threw Bendis' smoke&mirrors?

Yeah maybe he thinks he's trying something new, but to me all he's doing is milking Frank Miller's style and even Frank had enough sense to give the reader a big helping of hearty comicbook action.

 

[The Batman]

pretty much. As for ultimate spider-man, that was great until he killed off gwen for no reason. After that it was mediocre, but with the gang war arc its been getting good again

 

[deemar325]

pretty much. As for ultimate spider-man, that was great until he killed off gwen for no reason. After that it was mediocre, but with the gang war arc its been getting good again

USM was ok and I can read it sometimes, but I'm pretty tired of Bendis' need to put King Pin in every other story arc.

I'm just tired of Bendis' talking head approach, how Mark Bagley puts up with his writing I don't know? How can you force a talent like Bagley to slave through six issues of Aunt May jaw jacking about non-sense or Peter standing around doing nothing?