The Dark Knight Bruce and Harveys Relationship....

[chosen1]

I hope they really explore how good of friends harvey and bruce were before he goes mental.

That way when he turns it'll make it all the sweeter.


(Not that dissapointing darth vader transformation.

 

[Two-Face]

Nolan should show that Bruce & Harvey met at college (flashback)

 

[Adam West]

I doubt they will have one.

 

[Wise]

Nolan should show that Bruce & Harvey met at college (flashback)

I was thinking along the exact same lines.

 

[kytrigger]

I actually don't mind if they don"t go into Bruce and harvey having a history together. I would much rather just have Batman and harvey know each other than Bruce and Harvey.

Although, if done well, I also see no real problem with the idea.

 

[NinjaTurtleFan]

I don't think we really need to see Bruce and Harvey knowing each other before. Unless, they were school chums, I think they should just meet now, Bruce and Harvey both respect each other, but Harvey is suspicious as Gordon was in "Batman Begins" of Batman. Whether Batman is on the right side of the law, or not.

 

[I Am The Knight]

Yeah, it's more important to show the relationship between Batman and Dent than the one between Wayne and Dent. But they should get to know each other at somer charity thing or something like that....

 

[Dr. Fate]

Nolan should show that Bruce & Harvey met at college (flashback)

Yeah!

 

[Katsuro]

I really hope they dont. Bruce and Harvey shouldn't even know eachother. Batman and Harvey is the relationship they should focus on. Bruce Wayne should be a rich, airheaded playboy in public, so for Harvey to be his friend that'd mean he'd have to be one too. Batman has more in common with the Dent I want.

Also, Batman's the one who's gonna be hunting down Two-Face after the accident, not Bruce Wayne. Batman'll be able to use their prior friendship to pursuade him to turn good again or whatever. I doubt Wayne'll ever see Dent again the accident, so what's the point of them being friends?

 

[Silver Souper]

I really hope they dont. Bruce and Harvey shouldn't even know eachother. Batman and Harvey is the relationship they should focus on. Bruce Wayne should be a rich, airheaded playboy in public, so for Harvey to be his friend that'd mean he'd have to be one too. Batman has more in common with the Dent I want.

Also, Batman's the one who's gonna be hunting down Two-Face after the accident, not Bruce Wayne. Batman'll be able to use their prior friendship to pursuade him to turn good again or whatever. I doubt Wayne'll ever see Dent again the accident, so what's the point of them being friends?

E-X-A-C-T-L-Y. Well said

 

[Anjow1060]

Actually, not well said good sir.

If I may venture to interject my opinion here, I think they do need to be friends to some extent. For an important Wayne reason. If they can twist it in the way that Bruce feels responsible for what happens to Dent it makes it more painful for him to go after him. For example, Bruce goes along the line of regretting not killing the Joker at one point. "I'll keep counting Joker. I'll keep counting the lives I've taken by allowing you to live." Bruce paying for the expensive surgery to get Harvey's face fixed. Etc etc.


HOWEVER, while it would play awsomely on Bruce's emotions.....I think theres already gonna be quite a hell of a lot of guilt on Bruce's plate as it is. So if anything I would include that stuff but not focus on it too entirely. If it was me writing/directing it, I wouldn't even focus more on the Batman/Dent relationship. To me, in all honesty, Two-face isn't batman's nemisis. He's Gordan's. The relationship of Dent and Gordan is the one that interests me the most. They're both work-a-holics. They both go through a tuff time with their wives because of their work ethics. They both get horribly hurt by the Joker (for Gordan....in eventual theory that is). And yet, they feed off each other. They work well together. Law & Order personified. And then Order turns to chaos. What does the law end up doing? I'd rather see Dent used as a way to throw some guilt on the plate of Jim Gordan.

 

[ChrisBaleBatman]

I'd prefer no relationship between Bruce and Harvey.

Really, I think it was a flaw of the BTAS where Bruce and Harvey seemed to be great friends, and there seemed to be no relationship between Harv and Batman......yet Batman alwars had the greatest sympathy for Two-Face, Harv should have put two and two together....lol.

I'd prefer the Batman-Harvey-Jimbo relationship, rather than having Bruce know Harvey at all really.

 

[Eros]

how can Batman have a "realtionship" with Dent. He has a working relationship with Gordan, but anyone else that just woudn't work in a movie. I think BTAS bruce had a friendship with Harvey, because Batman was a very dark and somewhat grim character, he could never connect that way with Harvey the way he could as Bruce Wayne.

 

[Rynan]

how can Batman have a "realtionship" with Dent. He has a working relationship with Gordan, but anyone else that just woudn't work in a movie. I think BTAS bruce had a friendship with Harvey, because Batman was a very dark and somewhat grim character, he could never connect that way with Harvey the way he could as Bruce Wayne.

Both fight for justice. Both are willing to bend the law to see that justice is done. Both are willing to risk injury and they're lives in the pursuit of it. Batman will need a district attorney(considering Racheal might be "missing"), along with Gordon, to help him to rid the city of crime.

I can see scenes of Gordon, Batman and Harvey meeting and discussing The Joker, figuring out where he'll strike next. I can't see scenes of Bruce Wayne covorting around and hob knobbing with Harvey Dent. That would cast Harvey in the wrong light and make him seem like a throw away character. Just an aquatence in the long line of Bruce Wayne aquatences.

 

[Eros]

Both fight for justice. Both are willing to bend the law to see that justice is done. Both are willing to risk injury and they're lives in the pursuit of it. Batman will need a district attorney(considering Racheal might be "missing"), along with Gordon, to help him to rid the city of crime.

I can see scenes of Gordon, Batman and Harvey meeting and discussing The Joker, figuring out where he'll strike next. I can't see scenes of Bruce Wayne covorting around and hob knobbing with Harvey Dent. That would cast Harvey in the wrong light and make him seem like a throw away character. Just an aquatence in the long line of Bruce Wayne aquatences.

yea, but Batman never can get perosnal with dent. He can't have dinner with him, or laugh at a joke with him, or even talk about how hot that woman was who walked by. I think thats why in some verisons Bruce and Dent are good friends, because it added an extra layer, and made it alot more personal for Batman/Bruce Wayne. But i really dun care either way, whatever works for the movie.

 

[DA Harvey Dent]

As long as it isn't a brokeback relationship.

 

[elorenishii386]

As long as it isn't a brokeback relationship.

I agree t:


I could care less right now how it's all set up...I have all the trust in the Nolan Bros. right now. I'm pretty sure they know what they're doing.

 

[elorenishii386]

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[Rynan]

yea, but Batman never can get perosnal with dent. He can't have dinner with him, or laugh at a joke with him, or even talk about how hot that woman was who walked by. I think thats why in some verisons Bruce and Dent are good friends, because it added an extra layer, and made it alot more personal for Batman/Bruce Wayne. But i really dun care either way, whatever works for the movie.

In the comics, especially in TLH, Harvey never had that much of a social life outside of work. He was too occupied trying to rid Gotham of gangsters and criminals to go to parties or even spend time with his wife. I think that's one of factors that contibuted to him being friends with Batman. Both fought with the law and where obsessed with justice, though Harvey's obsession would lead to creation of Two-face..

 

[Gonking]

a gay scene between them would be nice

 

[GeoffTheArtist]

a gay scene between them would be nice

 

[Anjow1060]

lmao ^^ nice

 

[Katsuro]

how can Batman have a "realtionship" with Dent. He has a working relationship with Gordan, but anyone else that just woudn't work in a movie.

I'm not sure I understand. Batman can be friends with Gordon, but not Dent? What's the difference, really? As someone else said, Gordon and Dent should be very similar, and therefore be friends themselves. So if Batman and Gordon are friends, and Gordon and Dent are friends, shouldn't Batman and Dent be friends?

That's another advantage to Batman/Dent, the way Batman and Gordon handle it together. After Dent's fall, we can have scenes of Batman and Gordon discussing the loss of their mutual friend, and working together to bring him back. As opposed to Bruce Wayne losing a drinking buddy and then what? Whining about it to Alfred? This isn't a comic book, so we dont have inner monologue to hear Bruce's feelings on it. Him and Gordon talking about it externalizes that.

 

[Artos]

Dent's a hard working rags to riches DA. He's all about business and wouldn't want to associate with lazy playboy Wayne. I think it would add more to the relationship where Dent doesn't like (at least to some extent) Wayne, but considers his alter ego to be a friend and ally.

 

[The Shredder]

I would prefer them to have had no previous relationship prior to when TDK takes place. Have them as allies, but allies who are at times at odds with each other. But by the climax of the film, convey it to the audience that Bruce and Dent have a new found respect for one another, and their respective methods to rid Gotham of crime. A sub plot where it's shown they may have been friends in the past is nice, but not really necessary I think.