Mr. Earle
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If anything, Bruce was altruistic about Harvey taking over. He knows that he is working outside the law and he knows that Harvey is the real hero that operates inside the limits of the law. "He is the true hero of Gotham, a hero with a face". When he explains this to Rachel, you can see that he isnt looking for someone to take over because he is tired of being batman, he is looking for a legitimate legal hero to carry on.Bruce, on the other hand, wants Harvey to fill the spot of Batman by using the law to rid the city of criminals.
Also, hurr hurr, they both spilled their champagne. Bruce because he doesnt drink, the joker because he is nuts and grabbed the glass awkwardly. OMG the similarity! The mirroring of the personalities!
What's next? Both wear a suit?
The joker bales from jail, and Bale is playing batman. Bale and bale....wait a minute....this cant be a coincidence. NoLaN iS a gEnIoUzZz!
ITT: We overread everything.
At least i am not alone in this.I hate when people try to draw paralells between Batman and The Joker. It always seems really, really forced. The entire point to their interactions is that they are almost polar opposites. Their similarities are very minor, and mostly have to do with both of them essentially creating their personas.
Which we all do, so that's...not all that deep.
And the point of all this? The symbolism? Christ, a word used in both films = instant symbolism!My favourite similarity between them is very indirect.
In the dinner scene, when Harvey Dent is talking about the Romans suspending democracy and putting one man in charge...well the "Roman" was the name used for Carmine Falcone in The Long Halloween, and the mobsters elect The Joker to take care of their business, in TDK.
And in Batman Begins, Gotham is compared to Rome (when Liam Neeson refers to sacking various cities), and Gotham has now unofficially elected Batman to do its dirty work.
That's my favourite comparison between the two.
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