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[bcd90]

Dark Willow was very powerful, why didnt she use dark magic, like she did to kill warren, to help defeat Glory?

 

[Abaddon]

Dark Willow was very powerful, why didnt she use dark magic, like she did to kill warren, to help defeat Glory?

I think you missed the whole point of Willow's character arc.

 

[ico]

Dark Willow was very powerful, why didnt she use dark magic, like she did to kill warren, to help defeat Glory?

Like Abaddon said, you've missed the entire point of the arc of Willow.
Her magic-addiction was used as metaphor for drug-addiction. Whenever she used dark magic after Season 6, she couldn't control it and it took over her, for lack of a better term.

 

[Abaddon]

Really I think the way is was presented in season 6 really muddled the story. Magic itself isn't evil. They shouldve made it clear that the problems only came from Willow using magic to control her friends,and eventually delving into darker magics to increase her power,instead of just saying she was "using too much". Marti Noxon is an idiot.

 

[masterj]

Willow initially did use dark magic against Glory. Ater Glory attacked Tara, Willow confronted her and attack her with various spells e.g flingin knives, paralysis. However, Willow's magic wasn't really effective and though it did hurt Glory, Willow would have ultmately have lost the fight if Buffy hadn't come to her rescue. At this time in the series Willow was growing in power btu was nowhere near enough power to harness the kind of magics she used as Dark Willow. Also the Hammer Buffy used in her fight against Glory belonged to Olaf the Troll.

 

[Abaddon]

Yeah,the writers made a mistake referring to it as the "Hammer of a God". Olaf had no god-like abilities.

 

[micky-fox]

It wasn't his to begin with... it originally belonged to a god.

And as for Willow, she only went haywire after the Glory deal. Her relationship with Tara was slowly spiralling out of control due to her magic addiction. She tried to in turn use magicks to heal this problem... Tara found out... she left Willow and Willow went into a depression state. It wasn't until she turned Amy back into a human (formerly a rat, since season 2. Willow never knew how to do it) during this state that she began to become seriously addicted... I mean drug-type deal. Upon Amy's return, Amy wanted to go out and have a blast (she's a witch also) with her powers. Willow got dragged along. It started out with simple things... transfiguration in public areas... conjuring, etc. Until Amy told Willow about a powerful Warlock dwelling in Sunnydale who fuels witches with power, which acts like a drug high and gives you a complete amount of magicks and energy. Willow soon got addicted to it. It was during this phase that Willow took Dawn out to 'go to a movie' and stopped off at Wrack's dwelling (the warlock) and got a fuelling of magicks and lost control... which resulted in Willow and Dawn having a car accident and being assaulted by a demon. Buffy knew something had to be done, so did Willow. Willow went cold turkey...

After Willow and Tara got back together... and everything was going great with them, Warren (little psycho nerd... Buffy's 'arch-nemesis...is) came rocking up to Buffy's place, and shot Buffy in the chest, then ran off still firing random shots behind him. One of them shot through the window upstairs and killed Tara. Willow invoked all the power she could at that moment and summoned the god Osiris to request he bring her back (Willow had to do a complete ritual in season 5 to do this... this shows how much more powerful she has become). Osiris denied her request and Willow got mad... she screamed at him and channeled a form of magickal energy and banished Osiris (he even screamed "Ahh!"). She asked Xander who had done all of this to Buffy (in the ambulance) and especially Tara. Not like she wasn't powerful enough at the time... she went to the Magic Box and blew the door open (the lights smashed as she walked past them) and absorbed the knowledge and power from every single black arts book the shop held, which turned her hair black and sent her on a murdering spree (to kill Warren and his two comrads).

That's my input.

 

[Abaddon]

It wasn't his to begin with... it originally belonged to a god.

When was that mentioned?They made it clear that he drew his strength from the hammer itself.

And as for Willow, she only went haywire after the Glory deal. Her relationship with Tara was slowly spiralling out of control due to her magic addiction. She tried to in turn use magicks to heal this problem... Tara found out... she left Willow and Willow went into a depression state. It wasn't until she turned Amy back into a human (formerly a rat, since season 2. Willow never knew how to do it) during this state that she began to become seriously addicted... I mean drug-type deal. Upon Amy's return, Amy wanted to go out and have a blast (she's a witch also) with her powers. Willow got dragged along. It started out with simple things... transfiguration in public areas... conjuring, etc. Until Amy told Willow about a powerful Warlock dwelling in Sunnydale who fuels witches with power, which acts like a drug high and gives you a complete amount of magicks and energy. Willow soon got addicted to it. It was during this phase that Willow took Dawn out to 'go to a movie' and stopped off at Wrack's dwelling (the warlock) and got a fuelling of magicks and lost control... which resulted in Willow and Dawn having a car accident and being assaulted by a demon. Buffy knew something had to be done, so did Willow. Willow went cold turkey...

After Willow and Tara got back together... and everything was going great with them, Warren (little psycho nerd... Buffy's 'arch-nemesis...is) came rocking up to Buffy's place, and shot Buffy in the chest, then ran off still firing random shots behind him. One of them shot through the window upstairs and killed Tara. Willow invoked all the power she could at that moment and summoned the god Osiris to request he bring her back (Willow had to do a complete ritual in season 5 to do this... this shows how much more powerful she has become). Osiris denied her request and Willow got mad... she screamed at him and channeled a form of magickal energy and banished Osiris (he even screamed "Ahh!"). She asked Xander who had done all of this to Buffy (in the ambulance) and especially Tara. Not like she wasn't powerful enough at the time... she went to the Magic Box and blew the door open (the lights smashed as she walked past them) and absorbed the knowledge and power from every single black arts book the shop held, which turned her hair black and sent her on a murdering spree (to kill Warren and his two comrads).

That's my input.

Do you do wikipedia entries?I already knew all that..

Also,Amy became a rat in season 3.

 

[masterj]

And she breifly turned human in season 4.

 

[micky-fox]

When was that mentioned?They made it clear that he drew his strength from the hammer itself.

Yes, he drew strength from the hammer, because he was strong enough to wield it. It was a heavy hammer, and with it, he could cause a hell of a lot of damage. I know it once belonged to a god because it's common sense. Olaf isn't a god... he's a troll, formerly human. And it was commonly referred to as the weapon of a god.

Do you do wikipedia entries?I already knew all that..

Nah, no Wikipedia entries... just felt like writing it out to inform those who didn't know.

Also,Amy became a rat in season 3.

Ah, yes. Quite right. My mistake.

 

[micky-fox]

And she breifly turned human in season 4.

One of my favourite scenes in the series. 'Something Blue' was a fantastic episode.

Willow: "First she's a perfectly normal girl-"
[Amy changes into human form again.]
Willow: "Then... she's a rat."
[Amy's a rat again.]

I also love...

Buffy: "So, Amy... how have you been?"
Amy: "Rat... you?"
Buffy: "Dead."
Amy: "Oh."

 

[bcd90]

Has anyone seen that episode with the hospital monster? I saw it when I was in grade 4 and I nearly had a heart attack. I cant remember the plot of that episode but apparently only sick kids can see this monster and his eyes do something weird.

 

[ico]

Has anyone seen that episode with the hospital monster? I saw it when I was in grade 4 and I nearly had a heart attack. I cant remember the plot of that episode but apparently only sick kids can see this monster and his eyes do something weird.

Yeah that's a Season Two episode named "Killed By Death". One of the coolest monsters ever in the show, methinks.

 

[Abaddon]

Wasn't too impressed with that ep. and the Freddy rip-off. The last scene with the picture almost made up for it though.

 

[masterj]

I would vote that one of the scarier episode in the series. Hush, Killed by Death and the Wish. I hate the scene in the Wish where the Chinese girl is put on the conveyor belt.

 

[Abaddon]

It was pretty funny.

The whole episode was filled with some great "Holy S**t!" moments.

 

[micky-fox]

'Hush' has got to get my praise for scariest episode. 'Killed by Death' comes in second for me. They both freaked me out... not horror-ish, but freaky nonetheless.

 

[ico]

To be fair, none of the episodes of Buffy ever scared me or freaked me out at all. But then, I had watched so many horror movies by the time Buffy started that I was pretty much desensitized.

Nevertheless, The Gentlemen are badass. My brother is terrified of them Doesn't help that I have three 12" figurines of them in my room

 

[LEX]

Hush was an AMAZING episode. It was robbed of its Emmy.

It's definitely my favourite Buffy episode with The Body, OMWF, Chosen and Becoming Part 2 behind in the Top 5. Honorable mention: Grave

 

[aidol]

no way would caleb take out glory....Glory is a freaken god! A GOD!! Enough said!

 

[ico]

I have mostly found that the episodes that were raved about were never my favourites; The Body, OMWF, Becoming. It's always the episodes the people really tend to overlook that I am really drawn to and re-watch a lot.

 

[bcd90]

I like the dark willow episodes. And I like episodes with glory in it. In general I like all Buffy episodes.

Anyways, now to my question. Why did Willow want to destroy the world?

I think Dark (movie) Pheonix should have been made like Dark Willow. She should have had the same evil sarcasm.

 

[Majik1387]

I like the dark willow episodes. And I like episodes with glory in it. In general I like all Buffy episodes.

Anyways, now to my question. Why did Willow want to destroy the world?

I think Dark (movie) Pheonix should have been made like Dark Willow. She should have had the same evil sarcasm.

Someone trying to kill Buffy accidentally killed Tara, Willow's girlfriend. Willow went kind of crazy.

 

[micky-fox]

Someone trying to kill Buffy accidentally killed Tara, Willow's girlfriend. Willow went kind of crazy.

That sums it all up. The magicks took hold of Willow.

Hush was an AMAZING episode. It was robbed of its Emmy.

It's definitely my favourite Buffy episode with The Body, OMWF, Chosen and Becoming Part 2 behind in the Top 5. Honorable mention: Grave

'Hush' was definitely a fantastic episode. 'The Gift' also falls into my list. An amazing episode. It summed up season 5 perfectly. You have very similar favourites to mine, Lex.

1. Chosen.
2. The Gift.
3. The Body (Sarah's acting was incredible).
4. Becoming Part 2 (Once again, go Sarah!).
5. Once More With Feeling.

All of those I could watch over and over again...

Hell, I could watch them all over and over...

 

[LEX]

'Hush' was definitely a fantastic episode. 'The Gift' also falls into my list. An amazing episode. It summed up season 5 perfectly. You have very similar favourites to mine, Lex.

1. Chosen.
2. The Gift.
3. The Body (Sarah's acting was incredible).
4. Becoming Part 2 (Once again, go Sarah!).
5. Once More With Feeling.

All of those I could watch over and over again...

Hell, I could watch them all over and over...

Yup.

All this Buffy talk is tempting me to go on a Buffy-a-thon again. Last time I went on one, I spent over 100 bucks just to rent all the seasons.

Or I'll just rent the ones with my favourite episodes in them.