I still love superhero movies, but I think in the next 5 years, we may very well have a burnt out from GA regarding superhero movies. Not only will we have more superhero movies on the big screen than every before, but we will also have the most superhero-related TV shows on network TV, Netflix, and cable than ever before as well. As with any genre, there is a saturation and I wonder what the breaking point will be.
The only difference at least with the Marvel Studios and DC ones are that they will take place within a large connected universe. I think that keeps people a lot more interested than if there were just 20 films to watch where they might just watch the top 6 or top 8. I guess we'll see by 2020 when DC have completed this bunch of films and Marvel will probably be well into Phase 4 and we should have a better understanding of the future of the Sony & Fox projects. If people are still interested after that they're probably here to stay. If the next few years which are absolutely jam packed don't put them off I don't know what will.
I can't get passionate any longer because it's no longer special due to the ever increasing amount of films being made, it's gone from one, maybe 2 a year towards heading nearer to double digits. We've been spoiled beyond belief. Thing is it's becoming assembly line movie making and worst of all the genre is influencing other studios to take these paths that further dilute original material. Like i said a page ago a decade back I would have loved the thought of all these superhero films, now I've had my share and frankly I want to move on. I'm as big a Batman as they come and yet I feel the character needs a rest. Very much a case of be careful what you wish for.
To be fair, is 6 (at most) near double digits? I guess yes, because it is closer to 10 than it is to 1.
I say bring on the Superhero movies. In the past I have tended to watch genre movies multiple times but now there is a superhero movie coming out every other month I can watch a movie once and get a fresh superhero movie a month or two later.
Eventually though, the superhero bubble will burst, it has to. I don't think it is sustainable. The difference between the superhero genre and the comedy drama (for example) is the average superhero movie cost around a 100m to make and the average comedy costs around 50m to make therefore the superhero has to market the movie more to get more bums in seats. All that marketing is going to reach a saturation point and returns on CBM will diminish as the GA pick and choose their CBM of choice until it is no longer profitable genre except for certain exceptions and you'll see a return to more modest numbers of CBM a year.
X:FC was and is (IMHO) far superior to DoFP and scored less.
Cap 2 was an excellent movie but got way more credit than it deserved because of it's political commentary which probably went over many of the general audience's heads anyway. Basically, it's no Dark Knight.
Guardians (again, IMHO) was a fun movie and no more.
The only difference at least with the Marvel Studios and DC ones are that they will take place within a large connected universe. I think that keeps people a lot more interested than if there were just 20 films to watch where they might just watch the top 6 or top 8. I guess we'll see by 2020 when DC have completed this bunch of films and Marvel will probably be well into Phase 4 and we should have a better understanding of the future of the Sony & Fox projects. If people are still interested after that they're probably here to stay. If the next few years which are absolutely jam packed don't put them off I don't know what will.
24 Superhero films in 6 years, wow, between 2002 and 2008 there were on average 35 horror films a year.
You don't have to watch every film, I haven't seen TASM2. Last year i didn't see the Wolverine.
Are you tired of Batman, then don't see another Batman film, doesn't mean you can't go watch Dr. Strange a completely new cinematic character. Tired of X-men how about GoTG. And if the general format tires you, then go watch another one of the hundred films coming out each year.
24 Superhero films in 6 years, wow, between 2002 and 2008 there were on average 35 horror films a year.
You don't have to watch every film, I haven't seen TASM2. Last year i didn't see the Wolverine.
Are you tired of Batman, then don't see another Batman film, doesn't mean you can't go watch Dr. Strange a completely new cinematic character. Tired of X-men how about GoTG. And if the general format tires you, then go watch another one of the hundred films coming out each year.
The problem isn't 'choice', you can always choice to watch or not watch any movie. The problem is exposure. The CBM genre is going to be in your face, with marketing up to your eyes. You may be alright with it but the general (may) grow tired of it and then reject it. It happened to westerns in the 60's/70's and horror in the 80s/90s. The cycle is always the same; boom and then bust. Sure, you still get horrors and westerns but at a much reduced rate than at its peak.
The problem isn't 'choice', you can always choice to watch or not watch any movie. The problem is exposure. The CBM genre is going to be in your face, with marketing up to your eyes. You may be alright with it but the general (may) grow tired of it and then reject it. It happened to westerns in the 60's/70's and horror in the 80s/90s. The cycle is always the same; boom and then bust. Sure, you still get horrors and westerns but at a much reduced rate than at its peak.
Nope, there are more and more horror films. Maybe you don't notice but there are. And great horror films still come out, and ones like Paranormal can still make money.
If they continue to make good CBMs then I don't see how anyone can get tired of it, did people get tired of 5 seasons of Breaking Bad? Anyone tired of Game of Thrones, Mad Men Boardwalk Empire, you get tired when something becomes stale.
In terms of over exposure admittedly i don't watch much TV, live anyway, so I tend not to see all the trailers and clips and stuff, but I don't see how it will be any different to the 5 films last year or 4 this year.
The problem isn't 'choice', you can always choice to watch or not watch any movie. The problem is exposure. The CBM genre is going to be in your face, with marketing up to your eyes. You may be alright with it but the general (may) grow tired of it and then reject it. It happened to westerns in the 60's/70's and horror in the 80s/90s. The cycle is always the same; boom and then bust. Sure, you still get horrors and westerns but at a much reduced rate than at its peak.
But westerns also had an incredible run, from the start of Hollywood pretty much until the late 70's. They also had the same issue of being on TV and film. Again... That's not a bad run. That's decades. If the CBM gets a run half as long your children as adults will still be seeing super heroes in live action.
Wait, Fox has already scheduled F4's sequel in 2017? Let's hope the first movie will be so awful both critically and financially that they'll be forced to cancel it.
I hate when people act as if Domestic is all that matters. Flint should alter his Sig to only account for Domestic since International means squat to him.
I think people should stop wishing for Sony to 'quit' because it isn't going to happen, they have made billions from the Spider-Man franchise and aren't going to sell it anytime soon.
Fox has Fantastic Four for the next seven years whether the movie is a failure or a success. So wanting it to fail for that result is moronic as they are not mutually exclusive
I don't think Sony give a **** about 'spoiling the genre for everyone else'.
I think people should stop wishing for Sony to 'quit' because it isn't going to happen, they have made billions from the Spider-Man franchise and aren't going to sell it anytime soon.
I wish they would, because as a fan of the genre it's impossible to deny that their most recent outings have been pretty lackluster, especially when you compare them to the other films we've been getting lately. Spider-man is undoubtedly my favorite superhero (I have close to 1500 Spider-man comics alone) and as a fan it's tough for me to watch what they are doing with that franchise.
Also, a side observation, the other superhero movies that came out this year were good but ridiculously overrated, DoFP especially.
I hate when people act as if Domestic is all that matters. Flint should alter his Sig to only account for Domestic since International means squat to him.
As I've already gone to great lengths to explain, it's the best indicator of franchise fatigue. That much is undeniable. Once again, I bring up Hansel and Gretel and Transformers 4 as the shining example of an overseas hit.
Fox has Fantastic Four for the next seven years whether the movie is a failure or a success. So wanting it to fail for that result is moronic as they are not mutually exclusive
I admittedly don't know the exact details of the rights, I thought it would be similar to the ones they had with Daredevil that lapsed in 2013 because they didn't make a movie with them.
I was hoping something like that happens, where they become so overwhelmingly discouraged to make another limp, weak installment in their failed FF franchise that eventually the rights just revert back, no fuss no muss.
Fox is about half and half on how well received their movies have been (5/11 critical successes, 0/2 with fantastic four movies, 0/4 on any property that isn't X-related) so it's time the rights revert to a more competent studio.
UPCOMING GENRE MOVIES - DC MARVELFOXSONYSTAR WARS MISC. *Not including as yet unscheduled stand-alone Superman films and stand-alone Batman films. 2015 Avengers: Age of Ultron - May 1 Tomorrowland - May 22 Jurassic World - June 12 The Fantastic Four - June 19 Terminator: Genisys - July 1 Ant-Man - July 17 James Bond 24 - Nov. 6 Star Wars: Episode VII - Dec. 18 Mission: Impossible 5 - Dec 25 2016 Deadpool - Feb. 12 Prometheus 2 - March 4 Batman v Superman: Dawn of Justice - March 25 Captain America 3 - May 6 X-Men: Apocalypse - May 27 Independence Day 2 - June 24 Doctor Strange - July 8 Planet of the Apes 3 - July 29 The Suicide Squad - Aug. 5 Fantastic Beasts and Where to Find Them – Nov 8 The Sinister Six - Nov. 11 Untitled Star Wars Spin-Off – Dec. 16 Star Trek 3 – TBD Avatar 2 - Dec 2017 Wolverine 3 – March 3 Untitled Marvel Film - May 5 Terminator 6 -May 19 Wonder Woman - June 23 The Fantastic Four 2 - July 14 Guardians of the Galaxy 2 - July 28 Untitled Marvel Film - Nov. 3 Justice League - Nov. 17 Star Wars: Episode VIII – TBD Untitled Female Spider-Verse Film – TBD Venom - TBD Avatar 3 - TBD 2018 Amazing Spider-Man 3 - TBA 2018 The Flash - March 23 Untitled Marvel Film – May 4 Godzilla 2 - June 8 Terminator 7 - June 29
Untitled Marvel Film - July 6 Aquaman - July 27 Untitled Marvel Film - Nov. 2 Untitled Star Wars Spin-Off - TBD Avatar 4 - TBD Fantastic Beasts and Where to Find Them - TBD 2019 Shazam - April 5 Untitled Marvel Film - May 3 Justice League 2 - June 14 Star Wars: Episode IX - TBD 2020 Cyborg - April 3
Green Lantern - June 19 Fantastic Beasts and Where to Find Them - TBD
I know a lot of people will go, 'oh man they're stretching LOTR thin' but there are plenty of great stories to tell.
Lord of the rings, Star Wars, Harry Potter, Marvel, DC these are universes that can go on and on and as long as the films are still good, I see nothing wrong.
It's when they keep spouting out Transformers films or Pirates of the Carribean films, Dracula films etc with the same charatcers that get tiring
UPCOMING GENRE MOVIES - DC MARVELFOXSONYSTAR WARS MISC. *Not including as yet unscheduled stand-alone Superman films and stand-alone Batman films. 2015 Avengers: Age of Ultron - May 1 Tomorrowland - May 22 Jurassic World - June 12 The Fantastic Four - June 19 Terminator: Genisys - July 1 Ant-Man - July 17 James Bond 24 - Nov. 6 Star Wars: Episode VII - Dec. 18 Mission: Impossible 5 - Dec 25 2016 Deadpool - Feb. 12 Prometheus 2 - March 4 Batman v Superman: Dawn of Justice - March 25 Captain America 3 - May 6 X-Men: Apocalypse - May 27 Independence Day 2 - June 24 Doctor Strange - July 8 The Suicide Squad - Aug. 5 Fantastic Beasts and Where to Find Them Nov 8 The Sinister Six - Nov. 11 Untitled Star Wars Spin-Off Dec. 16 Star Trek 3 TBD Avatar 2 - Dec 2017 Wolverine 3 March 3 Untitled Marvel Film - May 5 Terminator 6 -May 19 Wonder Woman - June 23 The Fantastic Four 2 - July 14 Guardians of the Galaxy 2 - July 28 Untitled Marvel Film - Nov. 3 Justice League - Nov. 17 Star Wars: Episode VIII TBD Untitled Female Spider-Verse Film TBD Venom - TBD Avatar 3 - TBD 2018 Amazing Spider-Man 3 - TBA 2018 The Flash - March 23 Untitled Marvel Film May 4 Godzilla 2 - June 8 Terminator 7 - June 29
Untitled Marvel Film - July 6 Aquaman - July 27 Untitled Marvel Film - Nov. 2 Untitled Star Wars Spin-Off - TBD Avatar 4 - TBD Fantastic Beasts and Where to Find Them - TBD 2019 Shazam - April 5 Untitled Marvel Film - May 3 Justice League 2 - June 14 Star Wars: Episode IX - TBD 2020 Cyborg - April 3
Green Lantern - June 19 Fantastic Beasts and Where to Find Them - TBD
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Let's hope the first movie will be so awful both critically and financially that they'll be forced to cancel it.
